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I have 2nd gen Ryzen, should I upgrade to the R5 5600x3d or R7 5700x?

I went with a 5700X myself. Of course the 5600X3D wasn't an option, but I would still go with the 5700X. I don;t play the newest most demanding games but do use software that can take advantage of two extra higher clocked core. It really depends on what you plan to do with it. A 5700X is more than enough for gaming for me.

A 240mm AIO or air equivalent (or greater) is AMD's recommendation. I did forget to mention the air equivalent bit, thanks. Of note: AMD's spec page says: "Recommended Cooler
Liquid cooler recommended for optimal performance"

I don't know why the recommend that. It is completely unnecessary. Maybe it is an excuse to those who wonder why don't bundle a cheap air cooler with them anymore. Plenty adequate, but they say you need an AIO so they can justify saving ~$20.

Also, you got the first chart wrong. The 5800X3D has 4MB + 96MB of cache. Pretty confusing when you correctly stated 3MB + 96MB for the 5600X3D.
 
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There's a 5800X3D under that BeQuiet! Shadow Rock TF2 and it does go to the high 80's when multitasking and encoding via software, but I've never had throttling issues that I've noticed and recorded. During the torture test on initial setup, it never went above 88°C. Also, that is a 6900XT and it's a closed case which goes under the TV in, let's say, less than favourable venting conditions.

Point is: even if AMD says you need a 280 AIO to cool it, well, I just disagree with them based on personal experience. Much like everyone else in here is saying it, I just wanted to provide some personal perspective.

EDIT: Forgot to say! AM4 is dead! Long live AM4! So will Intel backport something to LGA1151? LOL!

Regards.
Nice cooler you have sir... I want so bad An "C" cooler last one I have is the noctua cp12se but my ex wife take away from me.
 

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The fact they are failed 5800X3D dies makes me really apprehensive about the longevity of these CPU.

AMD's X3D already have some questionable longevity over time, so I wouldn't want to get a piece of silicon from a failed die on top of it.

Then do you have concerns with say the 5600x, 5900x 7600x, and 7900x? What about Intel's CPUs? Or with any Nvidia or AMD GPU that doesn't have a fully enabled die like say the 4090? Those all have parts of the die that are disabled...
 
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Can't see the point of this.. at ~$50 difference just buy the 5800X3D, who the heck is that poor that cant shell out just that more for a high end PC? Anyone buying into high end must have the cash, otherwise there's the 5600x capable enough at $125
 

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As someone already pointed out, unless you are playing at low/medium settings to really push those fps at 240/360 range even the 5800x3d isnt really the obvious choice over even a normal 5600X . At 4K max settings both are equal, at 1440 max Id say equal as well, and finally at 1080p max there's a difference but can you really tell? So this 5600X3D is pointless to me as a consumer, if I want to save I go 5600X (used), if I want squeeze all I can get from ddr4 I go 5800X3D, if I want the bleeding edge theres the 7800X3D. Id'say these would make some sense at $175 or even less, then it would be easier to get it over the 5600X non 3d
 
So will Intel backport something to LGA1151? LOL!

Regards.
This isn't backported so the correct thing to say would be, so does intel still have enough failed 12th gen CPUs (low yield or still high enough production) to make a new 12th gen sku now that 14th gen is about to come out?
Apparently AMD does, not that it is a large number from what we know but large enough to make this move.
 
I'm finding these reports interesting. I'm wondering if there are physical differences in the chip (thermal conduction through the cache -> interconnect) or is it simply BIOS variations in regards to Voltage and/or Clockspeed. Indeed, I have my sample under a 7 or 8 year old Hyper 212, at an ambient of 20 to 21C it sits at around 78C all-core in Cinebench, 4276Mhz and smack on the 105W mark. I have several folks I fly with in MSFS and their results when we compared at the time were all pretty close to that mark, even those with liquid. It's been surmised that the cache acts as a thermal break, limiting heat transfer and that's why we see a drop off in effectiveness with larger air and liquid coolers.

The x3d version targets a lower boost clock speed, which is likely why it runs cooler than the non-3d version.