Review AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Review: Devastating Gaming Performance

[YSCCC]

Simply AMD stated hardware limits.. 6400 1:1 max with a price/performance optimum at 6000 cl 30

yea I know, but I am not sure if the old AM5 boards could potentially have a new zen generation supporting CUDIMM, as the pin seems compatible between normal ram and CUDIMM, just that with CPUs not supporting CUDIMM they can't utilize the in built clock generater

 

[JasonovichClone]

I wonder how much the GPU bottleneck would be reduced at the highest resolution when the RTX 5090 is released?
9800X3D + 5090 dream team.

 

[lordmogul]

Have we ever seen such a gaming performance uplift from one gen to the next in the past? I don't recall myself. This is one impressive CPU.

So AMD does a +30% gaming performance improvement from one gen to the next, while Intel does a -5%. How times have changed.

Pentium 4 to Conroe and Nehalem to Sandy Bridge was like that.
From personal benchmarks, a 2 GHz Core 2-era Celeron easily beats a 3 GHz Prescott while simultaneously running at a third of the power draw. And that is with a low-end chip. 3 GHzCore 2 were availablepretty much from the start.

And I still remember a i5-2500K beating an i7- 980X, but by how much depends on the game.
And let's not forget how it went going from an FX-8350 to a R5 1600. Or rather a FX-9830P to an R5 1500X, considering Excavator was the last design before Zen.

 

[cirdecus]

Pros in the article are pretty accurate, but let me fix the cons:

CONS
1) As a fish, it can't seem to climb a tree as well as a squirrel

 

[WATERCHEMIST]

" the gaps we're seeing here at 1080p would then extend into the 1440p and even 4K range."

This statement didn't age well. Please do 4K gaming benchmarks in processor reviews. 1080p and even 1440p are resolutions that I haven't cared about for almost a decade now.

 

[Ogotai]

This statement didn't age well. Please do 4K gaming benchmarks in processor reviews. 1080p and even 1440p are resolutions that I haven't cared about for almost a decade now.

just because you dont care about those resolutions, doesnt mean others dont. there are probable plenty of people that still use these res's as they may not be able to afford the xx90s to play at 4k...

BTW.,.. for a cpu review 1440 and 1080p are used to take the bottle neck out of the GPU, and put it on the cpu. thats why they are used... its a.... CPU... review, after all not a gpu review

 

[helper800]

" the gaps we're seeing here at 1080p would then extend into the 1440p and even 4K range."

This statement didn't age well. Please do 4K gaming benchmarks in processor reviews. 1080p and even 1440p are resolutions that I haven't cared about for almost a decade now.

As another has said, you are not looking for a CPU review, you are looking at a 5090 GPU review that uses a 9800X3D as its test bed. Here is an extensive review of one such setup for a 5090 and a 9800X3D.

 

[TerryLaze]

Intel need 3d cache and fast before AMD become the next Nvidia!!
( which the current price hike of the 9800x3d is looking like that )

For AMD to become the nvidia of CPUs they need to reach ~80-90% of market share like nvidia did on GPUs......
Don't worry, intel can keep doing what they are doing and AMD isn't going to reach that for years, like a decade at least.

It doesn't matter how awesome AMD CPUs are if nobody (not enough) buys them.

AMD increased prices because TSMC increased prices, like 3-4 times in the last years.

 

[Ogotai]

It doesn't matter how awesome AMD CPUs are if nobody (not enough) buys them.

and with the issues with 13th and 14th?? gen ( i think it was ) crashing and degrading, STILL not known if it has been fixed for sure yet, no one is buying intel either... 5 people i know were looking to upgrade, are not getting intel bases cpus cause of this.. they dont trust intel any more.... and probably wont for 3-4 years now...

point is?

 

[TerryLaze]

and with the issues with 13th and 14th?? gen ( i think it was ) crashing and degrading, STILL not known if it has been fixed for sure yet, no one is buying intel either... 5 people i know were looking to upgrade, are not getting intel bases cpus cause of this.. they dont trust intel any more.... and probably wont for 3-4 years now...

point is?

Point is that both companies give out reports and both yearly reports for 2024 are out, Your 5 people you know isn't the whole world.

 

[Ogotai]

Point is that both companies give out reports and both yearly reports for 2024 are out,

you sure love pointing that out, like its the tell all be for how each side is doing... doesnt intel still charge more for less then what amd charges, and gives for the price ? guess what, who has been selling parts of their company off the most ? who used to fab their own chips, but now.. also use TSMC ? who has been stumbling the most since 14nm ??? twist it as you want.. intel.. isnt as good as they used to be, or you believe them to be.

Your 5 people you know isn't the whole world.

news flash, neither do you... but if 5 people, 2 of which were going to get intel, have switched, and are going amd, then you can be sure, there are others..

intel has lost peoples trust because of the degradation issues, and instability.

but im sure, as always you'll spin it into something positive for intel...

 

[TerryLaze]

you sure love pointing that out, like its the tell all be for how each side is doing... doesnt intel still charge more for less then what amd charges, and gives for the price ? guess what, who has been selling parts of their company off the most ? who used to fab their own chips, but now.. also use TSMC ? who has been stumbling the most since 14nm ??? twist it as you want.. intel.. isnt as good as they used to be, or you believe them to be.


news flash, neither do you... but if 5 people, 2 of which were going to get intel, have switched, and are going amd, then you can be sure, there are others..

intel has lost peoples trust because of the degradation issues, and instability.

but im sure, as always you'll spin it into something positive for intel...

What are you even trying to say?!
I was responding to somebody that was afraid that AMD is going to be the next nvidia for CPUs.
That can only happen if AMD gets the kind of market share in CPUs that nvidia has in GPUs.

And this is down to sales, it's not my fault that people completely ignore the sales numbers that AMD publishes and make surreal claims about sale numbers that never happened, like what you are doing, you are trying to convince yourself that because a few people you know bought AMD suddenly everybody must have bought AMD, completely ignoring the sales numbers that AMD themselves publish.

guess what, who has been selling parts of their company off the most ? who used to fab their own chips, but now.. also use TSMC ? who has been stumbling the most since 14nm ??? twist it as you want.. intel.. isnt as good as they used to be, or you believe them to be.

Intel being worse than before doesn't make AMD magically be in the position that nvidia is.....
AMD in CPUs is in the same position that AMD is in GPUs, at below 20%

 

[thestryker]

news flash, neither do you... but if 5 people, 2 of which were going to get intel, have switched, and are going amd, then you can be sure, there are others..

intel has lost peoples trust because of the degradation issues, and instability.

but im sure, as always you'll spin it into something positive for intel...

I'm not sure why you, and others like you, think that DIY sales actually matter in the greater scheme of things. Intel sells significantly more CPUs than AMD on a regular basis and it's not even close. The only place where AMD is truly impacting Intel in a meaningful manner is on the server side. This is where AMD is slowly chipping away at Intel's volume, but most importantly they're cutting into margins in a big way to where AMD is making somewhere around a third of revenue despite selling around a quarter units wise.

Intel doing worse doesn't automatically hand AMD a win with regards to actual volume. In the DIY space AMD has absolutely flipped the script and are the primary choice for many people. There's one really obvious example of how little volume this space has: Intel hasn't bothered to compete with the X3D parts. When it comes to gaming AMD absolutely dominates the majority of performance, but that embarrassment hasn't been turned into a competing part. The reason why is simple: it's not worth the money that it would cost for such a part to be made.