News AMD says Intel's 'horrible product' is causing Ryzen 9 9800X3D shortages

[Admin]

We attended a small roundtable session with AMD executives at CES 2025 in Las Vegas and asked the company for details about its continuing shortages of its flagship gaming-optimized CPU, the Ryzen 9 9800X3D, currently the uncontested best CPU for gaming, and when we can expect demand to improve.

AMD says Intel's 'horrible product' is causing Ryzen 9 9800X3D shortages : Read more

 

[oofdragon]

LOL well said amd

 

[jp7189]

"Our goal is that leadership product in every segment, and I'm not going to talk about unannounced products,"

Welp.. good to have goals I guess... better to have an execution plan.

I still have this feel that the old salt Intel folks haven't the slightest clue how to compete from behind.

 

[saunupe1911]

Ok well make more AMD because your stock isn't looking good right now!!!!!!!!!! It's a new year. Make adjustments.

I absolutely hate when companies don't meet demand when their competition is down. It's time to eat!

 

[Gururu]

The inventory must be so low because 99.9% of PC users dont care about games.

 

[dimar]

AMD can skip the packaging and ship the CPUs in a clear plastic wrap. I'd like the sticker though.

 

[georgebaker437]

The moral of this story is..... Don't let MBAs make engineering decisions. Don't let (Boer) engineers make political decisions either!

 

[hotaru251]

amd: "Intel please...do soemthing big as we can't keep carrying cpu industry as we only got so many chips!"

 

[helper800]

Ok well make more AMD because your stock isn't looking good right now!!!!!!!!!! It's a new year. Make adjustments.

I absolutely hate when companies don't meet demand when their competition is down. It's time to eat!

Silicon allocation is purchased months to years in advance, its not something you can solve with a flick of the wrist.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

I highly doubt this for at least three reasons:

One is that at 4K, as we know, the CPU doesn't really matter (using TPU's chart because TH didn't do a 4K test on the 9800X3D review, likely because it'd be a waste of time)

Two is that even at 1920x1080 and given an unrestricted GPU (the 4090 in this case), even AMD's first X3D CPU, not to mention Intel's 14700K and Ultra 265K, are capable of averaging 120fps, and last generation X3DS chips providing minimum 120fps, while the 9000X3D series are incapable of 240fps, and I'm willing to be the vast majority of monitors are 144hz or less.

And three is that the vast majority of people are using GPUs substantially weaker than the RTX 4090 and are far more GPU limited than CPU, and a CPU upgrade to the 9000X3D would not make a performance difference without a much more expensive GPU upgrade.

 

[thestryker]

It's always funny when the companies take shots at each other like that, because the first thing I thought was "and how's the 9000 series been selling for you?". I don't think anyone sensible thought that Intel could compete with an X3D part at gaming. Everyone looking at peak gaming performance also took one look at the 9000 series and went "well those can't compete with the 7800X3D" and moved along.

If what you primarily do is gaming the X3D parts have proven to be the best buy of each generation because they're going to be the fastest and last longer. Someone who buys a 9800X3D today is probably not going to see it outperformed by a standard CPU for another two generations.

 

[Thunder64]

I highly doubt this for at least three reasons:

One is that at 4K, as we know, the CPU doesn't really matter (using TPU's chart because TH didn't do a 4K test on the 9800X3D review, likely because it'd be a waste of time)

Two is that even at 1920x1080 and given an unrestricted GPU (the 4090 in this case), even AMD's first X3D CPU, not to mention Intel's 14700K and Ultra 265K, are capable of averaging 120fps, and last generation X3DS chips providing minimum 120fps, while the 9000X3D series are incapable of 240fps, and I'm willing to be the vast majority of monitors are 144hz or less.

And three is that the vast majority of people are using GPUs substantially weaker than the RTX 4090 and are far more GPU limited than CPU, and a CPU upgrade to the 9000X3D would not make a performance difference without a much more expensive GPU upgrade.

Nice try.

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computer-CPU-Processors/zgbs/pc/229189

It's been #1 since it launched.

 

[endocine]

"There's no secret, X3D has become a far more important part of our CPU portfolio than I think any of us would have predicted a year ago."

Really? You didnt get the hint when 5800X3D was selling out?

 

[logainofhades]

Ok well make more AMD because your stock isn't looking good right now!!!!!!!!!! It's a new year. Make adjustments.

I absolutely hate when companies don't meet demand when their competition is down. It's time to eat!

They are at the mercy of what TSMC can produce.

 

[Amdlova]

The best gaming cpu lol.
The best gpu they need to praise is Nvidia...
the way to game is nvidia

 

[rluker5]

Poor choice of words from Frank Azor. Not very professional. AMD has to remember that the bulk of their products are still non 3d chips and are just as horrible.

Why is AMD making horrible products? I'm just using their own words.
They could fix their supply issue if they ceased making these and spent their resources on X3D chips only.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

Nice try.

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computer-CPU-Processors/zgbs/pc/229189

It's been #1 since it launched.

Number 1 seller on Amazon US doesn't mean it's selling so fast everywhere it's causing shortages because Intel can't match it. The number one seller on Amazon UK is the 5700X3D, the number one seller in Amazon Canada is the 5500. The best seller on Newegg is the Ryzen 7600.

 

[jp7189]

Silicon allocation is purchased months to years in advance, its not something you can solve with a flick of the wrist.

Yes, but they don't have to shift silicon allocation as they use the exact same silicon in pretty much every product. It's a matter of shifting the packaging mix.

 

[Mama Changa]

It's always funny when the companies take shots at each other like that, because the first thing I thought was "and how's the 9000 series been selling for you?". I don't think anyone sensible thought that Intel could compete with an X3D part at gaming. Everyone looking at peak gaming performance also took one look at the 9000 series and went "well those can't compete with the 7800X3D" and moved along.

If what you primarily do is gaming the X3D parts have proven to be the best buy of each generation because they're going to be the fastest and last longer. Someone who buys a 9800X3D today is probably not going to see it outperformed by a standard CPU for another two generations.

I think people are also ignoring the fact that for many people that don't just game but need good productivity performance without having to resort to 12/16 cores parts, the 9800X3D is just as agood as the 9700X overall and there are actually apps that benefit from the extra cache, so it would also be in demand from these people too. I would never have bought the 7800X3D due to it's much worse productivity score than the 7700X on average, but would definitely consider 9800X3D. AMD has finally rounded out X3D performance so we can have our cake and eat it too. But I am eagerly awaiting 9900X3D benchmarks as I'd like to move beyond 8 cores but not to the expense (in Australia) of the 16 core part. If 9900X3D is only slightly behind 9800X3D, it will be my next cpu for sure.

 

[usertests]

Ryzen 9 -> Ryzen 7 in the headline and article

 

[aberkae]

Facts.

 

[redgarl]

I highly doubt this for at least three reasons:

One is that at 4K, as we know, the CPU doesn't really matter (using TPU's chart because TH didn't do a 4K test on the 9800X3D review, likely because it'd be a waste of time)

Two is that even at 1920x1080 and given an unrestricted GPU (the 4090 in this case), even AMD's first X3D CPU, not to mention Intel's 14700K and Ultra 265K, are capable of averaging 120fps, and last generation X3DS chips providing minimum 120fps, while the 9000X3D series are incapable of 240fps, and I'm willing to be the vast majority of monitors are 144hz or less.

And three is that the vast majority of people are using GPUs substantially weaker than the RTX 4090 and are far more GPU limited than CPU, and a CPU upgrade to the 9000X3D would not make a performance difference without a much more expensive GPU upgrade.

Your whole analysis went down the toilet because of something called upscalling...

 

[saunupe1911]

Silicon allocation is purchased months to years in advance, its not something you can solve with a flick of the wrist.

OK well Azor can't be talking trash like this when they aren't capitalizing on it.

 

[ekio]

Nvidia says the exact same thing regarding AMD and their GPUs.

 

[Ogotai]

The best gaming cpu lol.
The best gpu they need to praise is Nvidia...
the way to game is nvidia

too bad most, cant afford the higher end nvida gpus. or the amd ones for that matter. my boss at work is looking to upgrade his comp, and for the 1st time, he is looking at amd.. and when i mentioned to him the degradation and stability issues ( and yes he looked it up when he got home ) .. that pushed him closer to amd...

he is sticking with his 3080Ti, as the prices for video cards are still crap... for most at work, none trust intel cause of the issues with 13th and 14th gen,, so yea right now.. amd is the better cpu...

Nvidia says the exact same thing regarding AMD and their GPUs.

to bad nvidia is relying WAY to much on upscaling and frame gen to get the performance from their gpus, would should be getting with out it... nothing but crutches....