News AMD says Intel's 'horrible product' is causing Ryzen 9 9800X3D shortages

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Frank Azor is a clown. AMD should muzzle him. Did he ever pay up for that paper launch bet he made? You'd think he'd learn eventually. nothing good comes from statements like this and AMD has gotten sand kicked back in their face time and time again after taking unnecessary shots at competitors. The irony of this statement when it takes an Nvidia GPU to make an X3D CPU shine because AMD makes a horrible product too. It's call their GPU division.
 
One is that at 4K, as we know, the CPU doesn't really matter (using TPU's chart because TH didn't do a 4K test on the 9800X3D review, likely because it'd be a waste of time)

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98RR0FVQeqs


What happened here? I don't think either is wrong...
 
I highly doubt this for at least three reasons:
You have accidentally assumed that people make rational purchase decisions.

When people have a couple thousand to spend on a top-end PC, it's more fun to get the fast chip, not the one with the best CPU/GPU balance. You see that trend across all recreational & semi-recreational industries -- power tools, cars/trucks/motorcycles, and tech of all flavors.
 
Frank Azor is a clown. AMD should muzzle him. Did he ever pay up for that paper launch bet he made? You'd think he'd learn eventually. nothing good comes from statements like this and AMD has gotten sand kicked back in their face time and time again after taking unnecessary shots at competitors. The irony of this statement when it takes an Nvidia GPU to make an X3D CPU shine because AMD makes a horrible product too. It's call their GPU division.
That rather depends on an individual's use case don't you think?
Not everyone (read almost everyone) can afford idiotic halo products from Jensen, and anyone with half a brain doesn't need or use frame rates over 60fps.
 
I really like AMD. However, historically, mocking their own competitors is something that ALWAYAS fired back in the long run. So, dear AMD: please ramp up your production and purchase more capacities at TSMC, keep your mouth closed and enjoy the earnings, That's how really successful people operaate.
 
Number 1 seller on Amazon US doesn't mean it's selling so fast everywhere it's causing shortages because Intel can't match it. The number one seller on Amazon UK is the 5700X3D, the number one seller in Amazon Canada is the 5500. The best seller on Newegg is the Ryzen 7600.
Because there is almost no stock in Europe. I know from Germany and Austria , people are Dying to get 9800X3d and cant find it at normal price.
It is being slod for 650~750 euros !
 
I really like AMD. However, historically, mocking their own competitors is something that ALWAYAS fired back in the long run. So, dear AMD: please ramp up your production and purchase more capacities at TSMC, keep your mouth closed and enjoy the earnings, That's how really successful people operaate.
Historically , everyone mocked their main competitors. and it never fired back they are just words.
 
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Silicon allocation is purchased months to years in advance, its not something you can solve with a flick of the wrist.

TSMC has seen demand slip and has additional capacity. AMD could buy this available capacity. It could also shift portions of production to focus on specific products in the near term.
 
That rather depends on an individual's use case don't you think?
Not everyone (read almost everyone) can afford idiotic halo products from Jensen, and anyone with half a brain doesn't need or use frame rates over 60fps.
You can act faster than you process visual information. Say you can avoid a pothole on the Autobahn or play table tennis because IRL the events and your vision runs in parallel. Not so in games where input and render runs one after the other. See here.
 
too bad most, cant afford the higher end nvida gpus. or the amd ones for that matter. my boss at work is looking to upgrade his comp, and for the 1st time, he is looking at amd.. and when i mentioned to him the degradation and stability issues ( and yes he looked it up when he got home ) .. that pushed him closer to amd...

he is sticking with his 3080Ti, as the prices for video cards are still crap... for most at work, none trust intel cause of the issues with 13th and 14th gen,, so yea right now.. amd is the better cpu...


to bad nvidia is relying WAY to much on upscaling and frame gen to get the performance from their gpus, would should be getting with out it... nothing but crutches....
From the lack of new reports among the millions of Raptor Lake CPUs out there, and the strong reselling prices it appears the degradation issue has been solved.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98RR0FVQeqs


What happened here? I don't think either is wrong...
What is more interesting is how HWU refuses to show you performance scenarios like this that is well known and repeatable across vcache chips:
View: https://youtu.be/2DfGNPiNTuM

Intel k chips don't have the "amdip". But TBF it seems that dip just makes the 3d chip work like it's non 3d counterpart and AMDs 9000 series doesn't have as much dip as every previous Ryzen out there.

Kind of crazy how different HWUs bar graphs are from live gameplay isn't it.

Edit: Raptor Lake just doesn't dip nearly as much in tough scenarios. It still dips, but holds higher frame rates in the unoptimized games and settings.
I've heard that Arrow lake has more of a dip because of added system latencies.
 
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I don't think Intel's chips lagging a little in gaming is why. and yes I said a little.
Its hilarious that they use that, but that isnt the reason. Intel sells plenty of chips to casual/non gamers. AMDs allocation team f'ed this up, like they always do.
 
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Holy hell you are a shill. Just not one that has as big of an inluence as the guy who made it up.

Did you at least scan through the videos?
It has been well known that 3D cache doesn't work equally well in all games and settings and that in some there is no benefit. Like flight simulator 2024 vs the older one. The last year or so some tech sites are trying to pretend this isn't the case. It isn't the end of the world though as the 3D chips just perform like the vanilla ones in these cases.
But that AMD guy just called that performance level horrible so maybe it is.

Also I've never seen that thread, as I was going off of live gameplay. But more information is better.
 
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Ok well make more AMD because your stock isn't looking good right now!!!!!!!!!! It's a new year. Make adjustments.

I absolutely hate when companies don't meet demand when their competition is down. It's time to eat!
... uh, like the article and AMD themselves said, they couldn't have expected that Arrow Lake wouldn't have a stronger showing in gaming perf, so hate it all you want but it's not like AMD can just snap their fingers and get supply shot up sky high. X3D models in particular take longer to assemble a final product, as mentioned. It's in AMD's best-interest to meet demand, so you can bet that they are pulling all the levers that they have at their disposal, especially given that AMD will probably have proper competition once Panther Lake arrives, i.e. lollygagging is no doubt a loosing strategy.