AMD Starts Shipping "Bulldozer" CPUs

[reagansmash]

[citation][nom]wisecracker[/nom]Just a little heads up for you. AMD left BAPCo (as did nVidia and Via years ago) because SysMark is simply an Intel sham. SysMark is now a tool for only distinguishing one Intel system from another.The issue, clearly pointed out by AMD, are tests which show no appreciable difference (10 seconds over 3 minutes, or around 5%) that were represented in SysMark numeric scores by a variance of 35% or more.And lest it is forgotten, Via left BAPCo because their processors received higher scores -- by simply changing their CPU ID string to an Intel variety.[/citation]

wise- Thanks for posting that. I remember reading about that whole fiasco a little bit back. Totally forgot to add that to my post as well.

Let's face it, there are going to be Intel fanboys and AMD fanboys (and trolls) regardless of the facts. People are going to purchase what they are most comfortable with. End of story.

Personally, I do not like the way Intel does business and the tactics they use. The example you just pointed out, which is fairly well documented, is one of many reasons why I no longer use Intel. Yeah, they are the fastest. Does that matter? To me, no. Let's be realistic here. Applications, Intel's benchmarks and speeds don't show significant enough improvements over AMD to warrant their crazy prices. Gaming? All you need is a steady 60 fps. ANY processor (Intel or AMD) will get you that in most games given, you splurge a bit on the graphics card. So what it really comes down to is, bragging rights. Honestly, I don't see paying that kind of money to brag about a few extra frames or speeds on a website/forum. That's just nonsense. I'll take my far cheaper, easily overclockable AMD over Intel any day. Even if it does take them what seems like an eternity to release the new Bulldozer... *shakes fists at the sky*

 

[captaincharisma]

[citation][nom]archange[/nom]This has got to be one of the lengthiest births - ever.Hope the kid is worth the labor.[/citation]

"hard to believe she's already 18"

quagmire from family guy

 

[NightLight]

i7 exterminators cracked me up 😛

 

[Ogdin]

Bulldozer doesn't have to beat i7,it just has to be competitive.I would take a slightly slower bulldozer + 990fx over a i7 with a gimped intel chipset everytime........if its competitive.

 

[shadejedi]

@Halls: As soon as I saw the headline I stopped reading and went right to Newegg to get my order in, only to be disappointed that they weren't there.

/sadface

Soon enough though. I'd rather have a properly working new CPU than another Phenom 9600 problem ;-) So, I'm cool waiting another month (even though it's frustrating as hell waiting), and I can save more money for it now!

 

[linford585]

Iv been a fan of Intel's engineering since the Core 2 series, however I'm also a fan of competition, and of advancing technology. Here's to hoping Bulldozer kicks some ass

 

[srgess]

[citation][nom]ReaganSMASH[/nom]Don't take this the wrong way but, you may be an idiot. Regardless of how well (or unwell?) AMD's new processors benchmark against Intel, people will still be buying their products including processors. AMD won't be going anywhere for awhile. First of all, as stated in an earlier post, people don't buy AMD for the fastest speeds. It's been YEARS since AMD has been on top of the 'fastest processor' world. Years. They are still selling their processors left and right. People are buying them for price vs performance, to stay away from Intel's stupid high costs and for the ease of overclocking. Among those, they are still selling based off principle. Guess who isn't buying Intel because of their market tactics. Myself, among MANY others.Also, let's not forget about the fact that AMD bought ATI. Guess who is selling the crap out of GPUs these days? AMD.So, before you decide to post this fanboy crap of yours, attend a few courses on basic marketing and business and stay FAR away from any jobs that may put you in charge of running a major corporation any time soon. Boom. Roasted.[/citation]

Boom , roasted ? all i know is that amd buyed Ati and like fews month ago there was rumour that amd was for sale, with ati profit not what inteaded and with the job cut back in 2009. I think this is a crucial moment for amd if they are not competitive , its going down i tell you fanboy or not, go back to school

 

[stevelord]

"AMD...it's faster than LAST year's Intel!"

 

[classzero]

pre and post Athlons, AMD disappoints. Unfortunately I have to use an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ 2.31Ghz until my internship is over. Only Full time employees in this IT dept. get Intel (Lucky B@57@rd5).

 

[captaincharisma]

[citation][nom]srgess[/nom]Boom , roasted ? all i know is that amd buyed Ati and like fews month ago there was rumour that amd was for sale, with ati profit not what inteaded and with the job cut back in 2009. I think this is a crucial moment for amd if they are not competitive , its going down i tell you fanboy or not, go back to school[/citation]

spellcheck much?

 

[Guest]

@srgess

rumors you say, so you get your tech info from the ladies restroom then....

@classzero

and what would you do with that blazing fast Intel chip, get work done faster so it can sit longer in the inbox of some approver or other, unless your compiling epic size binaries or running CFD/FEA analysis the difference between an AMD and Intel in the corporate world is mute

 

[reagansmash]

[citation][nom]srgess[/nom]Boom , roasted ? all i know is that amd buyed Ati and like fews month ago there was rumour that amd was for sale, with ati profit not what inteaded and with the job cut back in 2009. I think this is a crucial moment for amd if they are not competitive , its going down i tell you fanboy or not, go back to school[/citation]

"AMD buyed ATI"?? Really? And you tell me I need to go back to school? Hardly...

How about, AMD *bought* ATI. And this wasn't a few months ago buddy. This was back in 2006.

Any new product release is a "crucial" moment for any company. However, regardless of how well the Bulldozer does against Intel has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not AMD falls apart. The fact that AMD is the direct and only real competition to Intel in the processor market is plenty enough alone to keep AMD alive. How are they not competitive? Pray, do tell... They are the *only* competition to Intel. Yes, us AMD folks certainly wish they were a bit MORE competitive, but that is beside the point.

You're argument is that AMD is falling apart. You can't prove this. Historically, they have done far worse in the past. Their stocks are higher (but slightly declining at the moment) now then the period of time between the 2006/2007 AMD and ATI merge and the economic market crisis.

Again, you sir are an idiot.

Troll.

 

[dasper]

[citation][nom]amigafan[/nom]Yeah, maybe not last nail, but another nail for sure They aren't saying why the delay yet again: is it production issues, engineering issues, performance issues, secret deal with Intel back when they gave AMD 1.25B or what??[/citation]

Global Foundries are doing all of the fabrication for both the fusion and bulldozer cores on the same process and AMD is their first and only client on 32nm so they are having issues with production and also have to steal production away from their fusion lines to do so. Just a numbers game. GF only allocates so many resources to the 32nm process and AMD has to juggle meeting demand for their currently released chips as well as their future chips as well as take erratum into consideration. There where other reasons up to this point but this is the only holdup left.

 

[reagansmash]

[citation][nom]captaincharisma[/nom]spellcheck much?[/citation]

I was just in the process of commenting on his epic use of the English language!

 

[beenthere]

I just laugh...

AMD is one of the few tech companies that has according to some folks: "Been going out of business" for the past 35+ years. AMD isn't going anywhere any time soon. They will keep delivering excellent products and continue to frustrate Intel who has tried every illegal tactic they could think of to destroy AMD - without success.

Consumers are the winners. Few people actually need the faster desktop CPU. Buy what makes you happy. For many folks that will be Bulldozer.

 

[Guest]

I am thinking of giving amd a shot this time

 

[reagansmash]

@beenthere-

I couldn't have said it better myself. Excellent products, priced very well for the majority of consumers.

 

[sonofliberty08]

finally ...... the Duke is arrive 😛

AMD will not going anywhere, the APUs makes the netbook usable and possible, b4 the Fusion APUs, the netbook was just piece of crap device, the market has been ruined by the Atom crap, and the APUs makes good HTPC and AIO system......

and don't forget about VIA Nano, it performance better than the Atom crap since it release, it is also widely use in the embeded system and POS terminal......

i'll pick the AMD or VIA anyday ...... just no to intel ...... no thanks

 

[dontcrosthestreams]

first it was june 1st, july 30, aug 30, sept 19, sept 23, now October ? wtf someone needs to be fired.

 

[wiyosaya]

Here is a link to the actual AMD press release.

It's about time. Now if only the desktop version would ship...and we get some benchmarks published.

 

[ta152h]

[citation][nom]Herr_Koos[/nom]All processors are in fact still built on the x86 architecture, so in reality, there is no such thing as x64, although it's a widely used term.The correct way to write it would be x86-32 and x86-64.[/citation]

x86 isn't an architeture, it's an instruction set. Architecture is the implementation of an instruction set. The architecture of the K8 and Pentium 4 were very different, for example, despite having the same instruction set.

 

[flclkun]

misleading title is misleading

 

[eddieroolz]

I was going "YAY!" but I saw it was for Opterons only so far. But things are indeed pacing along for AMD.

 

[CaedenV]

AMD is kinda like Gateway computers. Every once in a great while their name comes up and you think "Oh ya, they are still around"

Seriously though, they are making a killing in the mobile and low power markets, so they really dont NEED a huge success with BD. In fact, if anything, the constant delays have been the best marketing they have ever enjoyed.
Personally still waiting for Ivy bridge for my next build, but if AMD comes out with a powerful/cheap product that runs cool and quiet then I would give them a serious consideration.

 

[utengineer]

I am afraid many of you will be disappointed when Bulldumpster arrives for desktops. For the gamer, expect Zambezi to match the 2600K performance and price points.