AMD TBird 1.1ghz CRUMBLED!!!

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WHAT THE HELL?!
I bought a Tbird 1.1ghz in January (oem) and installed it onto my A7V with a SuperORB and applied the thermal grease and all, (this relates to my last post btw) and now, in March, it's died... I took it into a techie friend of mine and he tested the system all day, and came to the conclusion that the CPU was dead. It wasn't burnt out, but the edges of the core had crumbled off. Almost all the way around, it was crumbled. Has anyone ever heard of this?! I had noticed a little TINY bit of it chipped off but now apparently it's totally all the way around.

This is really a serious question, because if it's happened to anyone else then i am going to report it to AMD and demand a refund... If this is a regular occurance then they should be taken off the market. I spent $475 (aus) on that damned CPU and now just over 2 months later (late january purchase) it's died on me and it looks like it's not covered under warranty because i installed it myself. This is bullsheet if that's true...

Seriously guys, help me out here, if you have had this happen to you or know anyone who has, can you post a message please? It may save everyone a lot of money.

Extremely <b> Pissed Off</b>,
<b><i>The Audiophile</i></b>


AMD Tbird 1.1Ghz & SuperORB
Asus A7V
128MB PC133 SDRAM
Winfast GeForce2 MX
Win98 SE
 
The clips on your heatsink are pushing down too much and you're probably fiddling with it too much. I burned out my TBird 1GHz (my fault, don't worry) and afterwards tested it on heatsinks and stuff, and one heatsink i pushed down real hard and moved around and noticed the edges of the core were crumbling off. the dust that came off almost looked like diamond. it was cool, since the cpu was already fried. try a different heatsink, i am guessing that is the problem (too much pressure is cracking the core).

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"648kb is all the space anyone would ever need!"

Bill Gates, 1980s
 
I can't believe how badly assembled (i guess) they are! this is the first AMD i have bought and it's crumbled, do you know if the SuperORB has a tendancy to do this?

It's amazing that there's no protection for them, i don't remember anything like this happening to my old Pentium chip, but then again it was OLD...

I really hope they'll refund me, do you think they will?

AMD Tbird 1.1Ghz & SuperORB
Asus A7V
128MB PC133 SDRAM
Winfast GeForce2 MX
Win98 SE
 
things like this didn't happen before now because the core used to be on the underside of the ceramic packaging. With the new, hot intel and amd chips, they put the core on top of the ceramic to disperse more heat.

~Crapple0

"intel inside, idiot outside"
 
no because it's your fault. (tight heatsink, not exactly your fault but not theirs.)

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"648kb is all the space anyone would ever need!"

Bill Gates, 1980s
 
sorry to say dude, you get what you pay for, overcooked graham crackers!

I see it almost everyday, most ppl are blind but I see it all, I F**k'n charge 'em a little more for being stupid :smile: .

not making fun of your predicament but, AMD owes you money big time!

ps, the writings are all over these forums.

"Amd cpu...Gone in 2 secs flat, it truly is a fast chip!"
 
So what is the final lesson? Is it the HSF, or is it just installing it with too much pressure? How can this be avoided.

<font color=red>This is a forum, not a chat room. You aren't going to find a date here.</font color=red>
 
Resolution:

Stick with the stock HSF. Once you go with anything else, you are voiding your warranty.

AMD does not owe anything to people who disregard the warranty terms and try to stick an unapproved HSF onto the CPU.
 
It was the heatsink, i put it on properly and never heard any crunching as i clipped it on... It has to have been vibration..

Ahh screw it, i got me a new Duron 800 today, so it's alright..

Cept this one's running a little hot, will post in the CPU section...

<b><font color=blue>Note to self: Never buy <i>anything</i> without checking with <font color=red>Tom</font color=red> first...
 
Mate, that would all be well and good if i actually had a stock fan. I bought it OEM, as most of the people on these forums do... I would never buy something Retail, the stock fan's are [-peep-], and the SuperORB, i was recommended to get by the shop i got it from, so in a way it's their fault..

Ahhh screw it!

<b><font color=blue>Note to self: Never buy <i>anything</i> without checking with <font color=red>Tom</font color=red> first...
 
The stock HSF has worked just fine for me and yeah, whoever suggested that SuperOrb to you probably should not have. (trying to be nice)

My Athlon was an OEM as well and came with no HSF, I could have gotten a SuperOrb or any number of other coolers but I went out of my way to get the AMD approved HSF for my chip even though there were "better" HSF's available. Heat has not been an issue.

I do sympathize with you, I have broken my fair share of components and have had pretty much the same response as you.............ahhh, screw it!
 
You can't really call the HSF "stock" if you bought it OEM... Stock sorta means that it came with the cpu in a retail box (eg when ya buy a HSF, the fan is stock)

The guy that sold me the SuperORB will NEVER get my business again, ever... And neither will the people i bought the Athlon 1.1ghz off as well as the GeForce2 MX that fried... Nothing was replaced..

Heat is definately an issue if you live in Brisbane, Australia... It's 1am here and it's 37C in the room with a fan and the windows and doors open... Hot night... And the CPU is running at 50C now (duron 800)

the "ahh screw it" was mainly coz i was sick of talking about my crushed 1.1... Coz i had bought a Duron 800 about 2 hours prior to it..

= ]

<b><font color=blue>Note to self: Never buy <i>anything</i> without checking with <font color=red>Tom</font color=red> first...
 
Did you happen to use one of those copper shims on this? If you use one with a Chrome/Super orb (newer ones with round base thing) it will crack the core most of the time. The better sellers will warn about this.
If you tell AMD the story they will tell you the super orb is not on their approved list.

PS: where I live we have snow on the ground yet. I set up a backwards dryer vent thing to suck cold air from the outside into my computer. Less fans, less noise, less heat. (hidden in a closet so people don't see my ugly setup) Get central A/C and have a small vent run for your computer. I guess if you want to do something on a budget, maybe you can make something out of one of those small refgerators (like in hotel rooms).
I have been wanting to try that. I had visions of plastic shelves with motherboard and hard drive on one shelf, etc. The fridge would be the case.
The more beer I drink, the more I want too start it.
 
or, for a couple hundred more you could build freon cooling right into the system. Now there is a nightmare in a can. But hey, it would run cool :)

Calm Like a Bomb!
 
i read that the super orb made by thermaltake was approved by AMD for use on their chips.....so isnt that their fault for not making sure it wouldnt screw up their chips?

i know this is a little late to be replying to...but maybe someone can let me know because i am planning on building my own athlon system at the end of this summer..
-David
 
I'm still getting these responses... i forgot i even had an account!

I'm happy to say that AMD (being the awesome company they are) replaced my 1.1 for me and i am happily running it at 1.3 now. It's the best chip i have ever had.

As for Thermaltake, they should be out of business.

Apart from their groovy BlueOrbs which are really awesome... I bought one for $14 (australian) and superglued it onto my GF2MX and it's beautiful!

If you wanna ask me any questions, feel free to email me (bass_injected@hotmail.com)

<b><font color=blue>Note to self: Never buy <i>anything</i> without checking with <font color=red>Tom</font color=red> first...
 
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