Amd vs Nvidia

[culzone]

So im getting a new gpu Budget 300-400 dollars.
Nvidia or amd? I've read stuff about nvidia having better fps in older games DX9-11? is this true?(on lower details)
I play the following games: Diablo 3, Tom clancy the divison, CS:GO, BF4
Also using a 144hz screen and would love to get 144+ fps in some of these games atleast
Also im from Sweden so prices are not as in the US

 

[lucas_7_94]

Dont stay with the brand, stay with the GPU which can deliver the FPS need for your system, for your resolution and your happiness.

Which resolution do you play? 1080p or 1440p? Which is your whole system? (is the signature build?)

 

[culzone]

Dont stay with the brand, stay with the GPU which can deliver the FPS need for your system, for your resolution and your happiness.

Which resolution do you play? 1080p or 1440p? Which is your whole system? (is the signature build?)

I play all my games at 1080p and not thinking about 1440p for atleast some years, and yes my signature is the build, also here is my full build if you want to see that https://pcpartpicker.com/user/culzone/saved/#view=fFp999

 

[010010]

So im getting a new gpu Budget 300-400 dollars.
Nvidia or amd? I've read stuff about nvidia having better fps in older games DX9-11? is this true?(on lower details)
I play the following games: Diablo 3, Tom clancy the divison, CS:GO, BF4
Also using a 144hz screen and would love to get 144+ fps in some of these games atleast

IMO with that budget you should get the RX480 8GB (Nitro+ version is abit more expensive at $340, but somewhat better) It seems to be a very good card worthy of a high end system and the 8GB VRAM is probably more than you will find in any Nvidia equivelant. Aulthough it might not get 144+ FPS in all of these games consistently, i challenge you to find a card that will for that price. As for Nvidia, anything above a gtx 1060 6GB is out of your price range though the 1060 itself is a good card so is worth looking at also. Here are some links for further details on the above mentioned cards .AMD Nvidia. This site is unbiased in the favour of either, though i encourge you to explore further before making your decision. Hope this helps .

 

[culzone]

So im getting a new gpu Budget 300-400 dollars.
Nvidia or amd? I've read stuff about nvidia having better fps in older games DX9-11? is this true?(on lower details)
I play the following games: Diablo 3, Tom clancy the divison, CS:GO, BF4
Also using a 144hz screen and would love to get 144+ fps in some of these games atleast

IMO with that budget you should get the RX480 8GB (Nitro+ version is abit more expensive at $340, but somewhat better) It seems to be a very good card worthy of a high end system and the 8GB VRAM is probably more than you will find in any Nvidia equivelant. Aulthough it might not get 144+ FPS in all of these games consistently, i challenge you to find a card that will for that price. As for Nvidia, anything above a gtx 1060 6GB is out of your price range though the 1060 itself is a good card so is worth looking at also. Here are some links for further details on the above mentioned cards .AMD Nvidia. This site is unbiased in the favour of either, though i encourge you to explore further before making your decision. Hope this helps .

I've been looking at the MSI rx 480 gaming X, but here in Sweden the gtx 1060 gaming X is only 10 euro away, so don't know which one would be the best

 

[renz496]

So im getting a new gpu Budget 300-400 dollars.
Nvidia or amd? I've read stuff about nvidia having better fps in older games DX9-11? is this true?(on lower details)
I play the following games: Diablo 3, Tom clancy the divison, CS:GO, BF4
Also using a 144hz screen and would love to get 144+ fps in some of these games atleast
Also im from Sweden so prices are not as in the US

to me it is like nvidia still doing optimization even on old games. recently toms hardware reviewed RX460 (but also include RX470 in the bench). it is no joke when RX470 which was supposed to be significantly faster than GTX950 got beaten in Star Craft 2.

 

[culzone]

For start, its a solid build, but at today if you need to choose, your best safe bet is the GTX 1070 from nvidia. Its a little 'overkill' for 1080p, but you will be safe with the Refresh of your monitor.

Or, wait RX 490 from AMD for 2017. (i'm assuming it will be head-to-head against GTX 1070-1080).

Here is Sweden the cheapest 1070 is at 600 dollars :/

 

[lucas_7_94]

I think if you want to play @ that resolution with 144fps or more, the best safe bet is saving some bucks, and pick the GTX 1070. I'm not sure which distance is between your budget from the 1070.

PS: Ignore that post, its 5:28AM in my country, i'm sleep lol

 

[lucas_7_94]

Then GTX 1060 6GB (but still, you're not will be enable to get 144fps constantly), or wait the future RX 490 card from AMD (1H 2017) and hope for a good price range.

 

[culzone]

So im getting a new gpu Budget 300-400 dollars.
Nvidia or amd? I've read stuff about nvidia having better fps in older games DX9-11? is this true?(on lower details)
I play the following games: Diablo 3, Tom clancy the divison, CS:GO, BF4
Also using a 144hz screen and would love to get 144+ fps in some of these games atleast
Also im from Sweden so prices are not as in the US

to me it is like nvidia still doing optimization even on old games. recently toms hardware reviewed RX460 (but also include RX470 in the bench). it is no joke when RX470 which was supposed to be significantly faster than GTX950 got beaten in Star Craft 2.

Yeah, this makes me think alot about which card I want... I play most of the time CS:GO which is an old game.

 

[culzone]

Then GTX 1060 6GB (but still, you're not will be enable to get 144fps constantly), or wait the future RX 490 card from AMD (1H 2017) and hope for a good price range.

One thing about the 1060 is that it does not support SLI, and id just like to add another card in the future rather than selling one and buying a new one

 

[renz496]

Then GTX 1060 6GB (but still, you're not will be enable to get 144fps constantly), or wait the future RX 490 card from AMD (1H 2017) and hope for a good price range.

One thing about the 1060 is that it does not support SLI, and id just like to add another card in the future rather than selling one and buying a new one

one of the reason why nvidia finally drop SLI on cards like 1060 was most of the time people will end up faster card despite early on they plan to add second card later. this is one issue when it comes to multi gpu with mid range card. when i plan for my 660SLI build i did not wait long to get my second 660. in less than 3 month (maybe less than 2? i don't really remember since this is back in 2013) i got my second 660. because i know if i wait longer will get different card instead of another 660. and i have seen our forum member having this kind issue as far back in 2010. they thinking of getting 460 in SLI but a year later there was a better deal they can get instead of setting another 460. and this is back when mid range multi gpu still give us large benefit in terms performance/price vs the fastest flagship available. 460SLI for example easily 20% faster than a single GTX480. and still cost less. we no longer see this kind of benefit on most mid range card now.

 

[photonboy]

Multi GPU is going to change in the future once DX12 and Vulkan support it on a regular basis, especially if it works well for mixing cards.

I wouldn't make any decision based on expecting multi-GPU support though, and now that I think about it I don't know if you require an SLI bridge for SFR (Split Frame Rendering) to work. They did test using an NVidia card and an Intel iGPU so I guess not.

Other:
1) 144FPS is not practical to expect in many games.

2) If you have screen tear issues, then forcing "Half" Adaptive VSYNC might be the best choice. This synchs to 72FPS with 144Hz monitors, but turns VSYNC OFF (to avoid stuttering) below 72FPS.

3) If deciding between the RX-480 and GTX1060 I'd go with NVidia. The RX-480 will improve with DX12 titles, but I can't recommend basing much of your decision on how it WILL perform in SOME future games.

Go with the games you intend to play over the next year or so.

4) THE DIVISION benchmark:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal,4679-5.html

NVidia is about 15% faster.

I would still consider the RX-480 if their is a large price difference.

So you get screen tear but not STUTTER in that case.

5) AVERAGE difference (mostly current/older games): https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Gaming_X/24.html

Roughly 10% difference.

HITMAN - SAME performance!

Crysis 3 - 20% faster on GTX1060

Driver updates may help, and again the RX-480 should improve more compared to the GTX1060 but some of that will simply CLOSE THE GAP. They are fairly close overall, so maybe let BUDGET decide things.

The GTX1070 is better still, but I assume it's over budget. You aren't in the USA so I'm estimating what you can afford.

Update:
The above results assume a good CPU. If yours is lower then if a CPU bottleneck occurs in a game the numbers will be similar between cards.

 

[culzone]

Then GTX 1060 6GB (but still, you're not will be enable to get 144fps constantly), or wait the future RX 490 card from AMD (1H 2017) and hope for a good price range.

One thing about the 1060 is that it does not support SLI, and id just like to add another card in the future rather than selling one and buying a new one

one of the reason why nvidia finally drop SLI on cards like 1060 was most of the time people will end up faster card despite early on they plan to add second card later. this is one issue when it comes to multi gpu with mid range card. when i plan for my 660SLI build i did not wait long to get my second 660. in less than 3 month (maybe less than 2? i don't really remember since this is back in 2013) i got my second 660. because i know if i wait longer will get different card instead of another 660. and i have seen our forum member having this kind issue as far back in 2010. they thinking of getting 460 in SLI but a year later there was a better deal they can get instead of setting another 460. and this is back when mid range multi gpu still give us large benefit in terms performance/price vs the fastest flagship available. 460SLI for example easily 20% faster than a single GTX480. and still cost less. we no longer see this kind of benefit on most mid range card now.

Multi GPU is going to change in the future once DX12 and Vulkan support it on a regular basis, especially if it works well for mixing cards.

I wouldn't make any decision based on expecting multi-GPU support though, and now that I think about it I don't know if you require an SLI bridge for SFR (Split Frame Rendering) to work. They did test using an NVidia card and an Intel iGPU so I guess not.

Other:
1) 144FPS is not practical to expect in many games.

2) If you have screen tear issues, then forcing "Half" Adaptive VSYNC might be the best choice. This synchs to 72FPS with 144Hz monitors, but turns VSYNC OFF (to avoid stuttering) below 72FPS.

3) If deciding between the RX-480 and GTX1060 I'd go with NVidia. The RX-480 will improve with DX12 titles, but I can't recommend basing much of your decision on how it WILL perform in SOME future games.

Go with the games you intend to play over the next year or so.

4) THE DIVISION benchmark:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal,4679-5.html

NVidia is about 15% faster.

I would still consider the RX-480 if their is a large price difference.

So you get screen tear but not STUTTER in that case.

5) AVERAGE difference (mostly current/older games): https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Gaming_X/24.html

Roughly 10% difference.

HITMAN - SAME performance!

Crysis 3 - 20% faster on GTX1060

Driver updates may help, and again the RX-480 should improve more compared to the GTX1060 but some of that will simply CLOSE THE GAP. They are fairly close overall, so maybe let BUDGET decide things.

The GTX1070 is better still, but I assume it's over budget. You aren't in the USA so I'm estimating what you can afford.

Update:
The above results assume a good CPU. If yours is lower then if a CPU bottleneck occurs in a game the numbers will be similar between cards.

I saw a 980 ti for just 40 dollars higher than a 1060 6gb should I go for it? both are msi gaming

 

[renz496]

performance wise 980ti is on par with 1070. once overclocked they will be even faster. though you need to make sure your PSU able to handle the card.