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Here is a good example of what we can expect. Take two cars, one with a 25hp engine, and the other with 30hp. The second car, with it's higher horsepower rating you would expect to win in a race, and it cost more than the 25hp car. Well, if you just slap on some cheap tires, and a junk rear end, on the 30hp car how are you getting the power to the ground? Now if the first car invests in the research and comes up with premium drivetrain and tires, and can get it's power to the road, it will win, even if it is a couple bucks cheaper and with 16% less power. A higher clock speed does not mean an instant win. If you pit a 8086 or 8088 against a 80486, all running at the same clock speed, or even running the 80486 a bit slower, you would see what I mean.

My father was able to go the movies, buy a hotdog and soda, and still have a nickel left from the quarter he started the day with. I am looking at $8 per ticket for a second rate movie at a movie theater, plus $5 for a small pop corn, and $2 or more for a soda. Just the cost of living has been increasing every year, not to mention inflation most years. Today's dollar does not purchase as much as it did one year ago, much less five or fifty years ago.

I can hardly wait to see Until (yes, Until, not Intel, as there 7nm fabs will not be ready until the year 20??, and they do not expect to bring power requirements down until they move to a 7nm chip, and don't expect to be competitive until . . . ) get officially dethroned in the next few days. I am looking forward to real competition now, maybe Until will step up their game, and we can start saving some money.
 
The intelligence level of many of these posts is at an all time low. It would be nice if the Intel fan boys could take their ignorance somewhere else
 
It used to be that got 2x the performance at 1/2 the price with every generational progress. I don't give a rat's a$$ that Moore's law is dead now, I want to pay less and get more. What is so f!ing wrong about that!?

Nothing wrong with wanting that. A lot wrong with thinking that what you want is the most important thing for everyone. AMD shareholders want as much money as they can get, and AMDs board have a fiduciary duty to deliver that (or potentially face lawsuits).

AMD think, rightly or not, that the market will bear a higher price for what is the superior product. Heck, I want cheap powerful CPUs too, but AMD is right to extract as much $$$ from their product as they can. If history is any indication, Intel will come back with a vengeance, and they need a war chest (last time AMD very nearly went bust, next time they may not be so lucky).

I'll look at the new CPUs price and performance when they are public in a couple of days. If I'm not satisfied, I'll stick with my i7 3770k for another round (still working fine, thank you)
 
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We need a 5600 for like $229 or something that matches a 10600k. Its looking like the higher end chips will beat a 10600k in gaming.

Where are you finding the 10600k for $230? The lowest price on Amazon is $280, Newegg has it for $275, My local Micro Center has it for $270.
 
I do NOT understand this kind of thinking. Why should people just bend over. People didn't like bending over for Intel and there is no reason should want to do this for AMD.

It used to be that got 2x the performance at 1/2 the price with every generational progress. I don't give a rat's a$$ that Moore's law is dead now, I want to pay less and get more. What is so f!ing wrong about that!?

Seriously, the 8086 was about $360 back in 1980, see:https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/classics-rock/intels-8086-passes-the-big-3-0/

And every increment improve should get an matching incremental price bump, guess what a 4 Ghz 8 core cpu now should be about 32000x good old 8086. So the performance bump is worth even $1, then you should be happy to pay $32000 for your latest CPU.

How about a NO, and hell NO! Cheapskate and Proud!

It's not "thinking" ... no one said anyone had to like or even that I like it ... did I? They call it e-c-o-n-o-m-i-c-s --- just kidding, its this new thing I just invented to make you unhappy with my thinking. Lol.
 
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How come it sells for a recommended price of $799 (€676) and in Europe it is selling for €899 ($1061 today November 9th, 2020)? How come we in Europe always get shafted with these exorbitant prices? Apart from the fact that stocks are immediately low! It's not as if in Europe we have super salaries. This can be seen on anything. Look at the PS5 etc. It's always the same.
 
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