AMD's 3GHz K10 to break 30,000 3DMark06

[weskurtz81]

nmdante,

the stock may have been downgraded but, watch it bounce up here around Sept 10th. If they were really good at making the calls they would have down graded AMD to radioactive a long time ago. AMD probably won't go much below $10 a share if it goes below it at all. Once they release Barcy they will probably be fine. The stock is already starting to show some strength and people willing to buy it around a low of $11.27. With Barcy coming out people are probably going to be buying AMD rather than selling it.

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

I'm Be-Fud-dled, K-10 going to suck, K-10 is going be the second coming, Yet nowhere is a reputable benckmark to be found. Just these type of statements with squat to back it up.

All we really seem to have in concrete is that K-10 is late, and not launching anywhere near 3GHZ.

Check and mate.

If the AMD Phailure is capable of reaching these speeds and will be released soon then why haven't they released it to reputable sources for testing?

 

[shadowmaster625]

I see you quoted yourself.

As for explanation as to why I think Athlon 64 will stop short of expectations, my hypothesis is derived from observations of delays, paper charades, vague and highly controlled product demos (which never actually demonstrated high clocked cores nor outstanding performance), lack of third party benchmarks due either to a lengthy NDA or simple lack of engineering samples, Henry Richards exiting the company just prior to Athlon 64 launch, and finally, the author's well known bias towards AMD. I think the article was written by the author in the hopes that just writing it makes it true.

ah now it looks a bit more like something I read 3+ years ago. I know Richards obviously didn't leave in '03, but I'm sure someone did!

 

[weskurtz81]

TC,

supposedly they have and everyone is under NDA until the day before/of release of the new Uarch. Whether or not it is true? Dont' ask me.

 

[shadowmaster625]

AMD didn't buy ATI for nothing. How do we know they have not implemented a precursor to Fusion within barcelona + HD2XXX? Surely it does not take a genius to realize that there are a lot of things a graphics card company could tweak inside of a CPU uA! I doubt it though because nVidia's stock would be dropping like a rock, instead of being on the tear that it is.

 

[eric54]

The score is total BS. Its 20% off the real deal.

Linkage:
http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=Mjc3ODIsLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE=

 

[firestorm31]

Am I dreaming? If this comes to realization and Intel losses their lawsuits, they might be the company in trouble.

I'm just excited about the technology. It would be wonderful to have these in desktops and laptops soon.

what lawsuit are you talking about?

 

[NMDante]

nmdante,

the stock may have been downgraded but, watch it bounce up here around Sept 10th. If they were really good at making the calls they would have down graded AMD to radioactive a long time ago. AMD probably won't go much below $10 a share if it goes below it at all. Once they release Barcy they will probably be fine. The stock is already starting to show some strength and people willing to buy it around a low of $11.27. With Barcy coming out people are probably going to be buying AMD rather than selling it.

Maybe. Stock markets are strange, and I can honestly say that it bewilders me at times with the way it rises and falls. Will AMD be fine? Maybe. Maybe their stock will skyrocket, maybe it will tank. No one really knows, cause if they did, they would be the richest S.O.B. in the known world.

If someone is brave enough to drop a ton of cash on AMD (or Intel, or any other tech stock) more power to them. I have my fair share of stock in a company, so I expect the best from them. I'm sure AMD stockholders feel the same way, especially with so much guaranteed senior notes ahead of them.

 

[turpit]

Hey turpit ... like your saying Ed at Overclockers is more reliable than Mike, Charlie and Theo at the Inq ??

All Ed does is bash AMD .... period. The guy is obsessive ... read some of his trash.

The Inq on the other hand writes short funny and enlightening stuff ... sure there is some rumour there ... but these guys have the inside track on AMD second to none ... period.

Just thought I'd throw my 50 p in there.

I think the 3D scores are a bit too good for comfort too though ... they might have had a fewpints before posting and the glasses tend to fog the eyes a bit ... heh heh.

Then again ... the hits on their website must have been going through the roof.

Thus my comment at the bottom of the post:

Its Ed, so you can take this with as big a truckload of salt as the 3dmark

As far as AMD having the inside track.....Charlie D in the bunny suit he had to wear because he lost a bet to Rahul Sood regarding the acuracy of Charlies info says it all....the inquirer has the inside track on dis-information

 

[turpit]

Check and mate.

If the AMD Phailure is capable of reaching these speeds and will be released soon then why haven't they released it to reputable sources for testing?

Not true. We have a concrete revision 2.0 of the Phenom Logo.

 

[General_Disturbance]

CPU choice aside, can you explain why you'd go ATI at this point? Especially if you're playing games...

Because it seems all the new and great chipsets are crossfire based, and I want a dual GPU setup, just for the hell of it, and don't want to screw with hacked drivers for SLI. I like ATI because they are (were) Canadian, and I'm Canadian and so I like to support them. Differences of 10 or 20 fps don't concern me when they are sitting at 80, and I think most agree that ATI provides more bang for the buck, esp in crossfire.
Also, the new ATI cards coming out around then are 55nm, draw less power, will be cooler, PCIe2.0, DX10.1, etc. Whatever, I'm an ATI boy.

I like AMD just fine, sure, but they've been lying about their own numbers, lying about intel's benches, spreading bogus numbers to various sites

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=567

and what not. It is simply disappointing. And finally, we still don't know when they will release 3GHz Phenom - still no date.

 

[Harrisson]

As far as AMD having the inside track.....Charlie D in the bunny suit he had to wear because he lost a bet to Rahul Sood regarding the acuracy of Charlies info says it all....the inquirer has the inside track on dis-information

http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/Bunny_asks_a_question.jpg

If my memory serves right, Charlie lost bet that Dell will start using AMD cpu's. As we know now, he was right about it, just wrong about when exactly it had to happen.

 

[DJ_Jumbles]

TC,

supposedly they have and everyone is under NDA until the day before/of release of the new Uarch. Whether or not it is true? Dont' ask me.

This is true. Just like with the whole 2900 launch... everyone's seen it, but they can't talk about it without getting their asses sued off. The only people who have actually worked with one of these CPUs is covered by a NDA. So, when you see people saying: "I (and only I) got twenty minutes unattended to run all the torture tests that I could throw at this thing AND overclock it AND then run all my torture tests again!" WAKE UP! They are all full of shiite!!!! How many "benches" of the 2900 did we see before the thing came out, only to see these supposed "exclusive testing" benches were so far removed from reality that no one even bothered to fire the authors outright, they just allowed them to keep writing FUD. Oh, and these authors that are writing this and articles like this are the same ones who brought you such stories as: "2900: the GTX killer!!!" When, at the time, the drivers were so screwed that no one could even get the thing to keep pace with a GTS.
Oh, and ever wonder why the part #'s have always been photoshopped out on the CPU if they do show a picture? It's because it's not the real thing... Stupid, stupid, stupid people writing stupid stupid stupid articles.

 

[Reynod]

loving this stuff ... turpit the bunny suit was excellent ... very funny.

Posting stuff about the Inq just means more people reading their excellent collection of light hearted, witty entertaining stories.

They said themselves it includes rumour, fact and friction - it's up to the reader to decide what.

One of the reasons I like their stuff is the way in which it is written too.

I don't take much stock in their benchies tho I think coolaler doesn't have the real goods he is testing either.

Surely someone is game enough to post something more interesting in the way of benchies about the new chip ??

 

[Valdis]

fudzila lol:

"Phenom 3GHz won’t hit 30K in 3Dmark06

Our sources close to AMD have confirmed that Phenom 3GHz cannot even come close to 30000 in 3Dmark06, even on dry ice and heavy overclock. The same sources confirmed that no matter how AMD would like this to be true that such expectation about Phenom 3GHz would be too much.

If Phenom that fast, this would mean that clock to clock AMD is twice as fast as Intel’s quad core at the same clock speed and that is simply impossible.

With highest overclocking you will get to 26.800, trust me that is quite a lot, and Kingpin overclocked a Core 2 Duo to 5251 GHz and used two Geforce 8800 Ultras to get there.

In our Viennese lab we’ve two Geforce 8800 Ultras overclocked to 655 MHz each and Core 2 Duo extreme X6800 at 2.93 GHz will score 13500 and that is the fastest score we’ve seen. Quad core at 3GHz and FSB 1333 is maybe a few hundred faster but that’s it. "

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2808&Itemid=1

 

[Reynod]

http://www.vnunet.com/tv/?channel=vnunet.com%20TV&clipid=1386_vnunet_0096


http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=42090

 

[Valdis]

so Barcelona 2 Ghz 76
Xeon 2.33 Ghz 60

specFp_2006 was it?