News AMD's older Zen 4 gaming flagship pounds Zen 5 in new gaming benchmarks — Ryzen 7 7800X3D was up to 23% faster than Ryzen 9 9900X

[Admin]

One of the first 3rd party reviews of the Ryzen 9 9900X has revealed that AMD's previous generation, Ryzen 7 7800X3D, is still the best CPU for gaming, beating the 9900X by up to 23%.

AMD's older Zen 4 gaming flagship pounds Zen 5 in new gaming benchmarks — Ryzen 7 7800X3D was up to 23% faster than Ryzen 9 9900X : Read more

 

[edzieba]

SaddyTech's gaming benchmarks confirm AMD's previous statements about Ryzen 9000 not beating the Ryzen 7000 X3D processors in gaming.

Really? Because that's not what Tom's article on Zen 5 indicates AMD claimed:

Notably, AMD avoided comparing its new chips to its own previous-gen Zen 4 models but says the 9700X would beat the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, currently the best gaming CPU on the market, by a “couple percentage points.”

So, did AMD claim that Ryzen 9000 would be faster (even if only by a “couple percentage points”) than 7000X3D, or did AMD claim that 7000X3D would be faster (by 10s of percent in some cases) than Ryzen 9000?

 

[DougMcC]

Really? Because that's not what Tom's article on Zen 5 indicates AMD claimed:


So, did AMD claim that Ryzen 9000 would be faster (even if only by a “couple percentage points”) than 7000X3D, or did AMD claim that 7000X3D would be faster (by 10s of percent in some cases) than Ryzen 9000?

It's not like there's a limit on the number of claims, even contradictory claims that you can make. Maybe they said both.

Edit: some reading suggests that Tom's misread/typoed here. The AMD claim is very clearly that 9000 will edge out 5000 X3D not 7000x3d. It is literally in the picture right above the claim in the article.

 

[TheHerald]

Really? Because that's not what Tom's article on Zen 5 indicates AMD claimed:


So, did AMD claim that Ryzen 9000 would be faster (even if only by a “couple percentage points”) than 7000X3D, or did AMD claim that 7000X3D would be faster (by 10s of percent in some cases) than Ryzen 9000?

The 9900x is the worst chip for gaming, it's a 6+6 ccd chip.

It is very likely that the 9700x will be roundabout as fast as the 7800x 3d in games.

 

[logainofhades]

The 9900x is the worst chip for gaming, it's a 6+6 ccd chip.

It is very likely that the 9700x will be roundabout as fast as the 7800x 3d in games.

AMD themselves has already stated the non x3d 9000 chips would be slower than a 7800x3d in games, and about 12% faster than a 5800x3d.

 

[Phaaze88]

AMD themselves has already stated the non x3d 9000 chips would be slower than a 7800x3d in games...

Even in ones that don't care for the extra cache?

 

[ezst036]

Despite some variance on another Toms Hardware article....................

"Chip with way, way more cache beats chip with significantly less cache"

This is not news. Not really. Dog bites man.

 

[karagra]

Even if the 9900x won here I would be asking why a comparison with a 6+6 core was compared against an 8 core. Thats not how you compare last gen vs current Gen lol...

Granted I can go even further to say for a true comparison you would need an x3d vs x3d but we don't have that yet.. so again why is a chip that is only going to be using 6 cores for gaming being compared to an 8 core for gaming?

Was the article written by someone who doesn't understand how gaming works?

 

[lordmogul]

I mean, look at the 5800 X3D and how that performs compared Zen4. Nothing special about having the same here with the 3D vache Zen4 performing well against Zen5

 

[Neilbob]

'Pounds'?

Sigh. I know using headlines like that draws clicks (I fell into the trap too, even if it was just to gripe), but I really wish you wouldn't resort to using sensationalist terms like that. It makes it look like some sort of shocker, when even AMD themselves said that Zen 4 X3D would still be faster in gaming.

And in a couple of those examples it's not unexpected that the margin is large. Isn't Cities Skylines (I assume the almost decade-old one there) known for being very cache sensitive?

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In retrospect, I'm not sure why I care. I'm at the point where I'm satisfied with my PC being just as creaky as my bone structure. Soon I'll pass my days looking at photographs that have gone sepia.

Edit: for the children in the audience, photographs used to be taken using cameras with rolls of film, which would then be given to specialist services, developed and printed on to a nice type of smooth card. I know, it's shocking!