Question Monitoring CPU temp with Afterburner

[emitfudd]

There are the following options to monitor CPU temp. 1 through 24 and then just "CPU". This is the one I have always selected. It is also pretty much in line with what HWinfo is reporting for max temp.

I am currently playing Horizon Forbidden West and came across an area where my CPU temp went from 67C to 80C. As long as I have been PC gaming (since 2016) I have never had CPU temp get that high with any CPU or other components of my builds. It's a game issue, not a cooling issue. My concern is that when the OSD was reporting 80C my fans were not ramping up to 100%. I have the CPU fan curve in BIOS set to manual and it is set to run fans at 100% at 75C. I manually set them to full and could hear and feel them at 100%. Specs below:

5900X
MSI 4090 Gaming X Trio
Asus Dark Hero motherboard
GSkill Ram 32 GB 3600MHz
980 Pro SSD x 2
Seasonic 850W PSU
Corsair 780T case
Thermaltake 360mm AIO top mounted
Acer Predator 27" 165Hz 1440P
FPS capped at 160 with RTSS
Graphics settings on ultra with DLAA

The reason I say this is a game issue and not a cooling issue is because there are many reports of the game running extremely hot in certain areas in the game. Frequently hitting 80 to 95C or even thermal throttling. I am back at one of the starting areas in the game and the CPU temp is back down to 60C.

So the question is more about why the CPU fan curve isn't reacting as I set it in BIOS. Maybe temps aren't really that high because I am monitoring "CPU" in Afterburner. Maybe BIOS is monitoring a single core?

 

[CountMike]

There are the following options to monitor CPU temp. 1 through 24 and then just "CPU". This is the one I have always selected. It is also pretty much in line with what HWinfo is reporting for max temp.

I am currently playing Horizon Forbidden West and came across an area where my CPU temp went from 67C to 80C. As long as I have been PC gaming (since 2016) I have never had CPU temp get that high with any CPU or other components of my builds. It's a game issue, not a cooling issue. My concern is that when the OSD was reporting 80C my fans were not ramping up to 100%. I have the CPU fan curve in BIOS set to manual and it is set to run fans at 100% at 75C. I manually set them to full and could hear and feel them at 100%. Specs below:

5900X
MSI 4090 Gaming X Trio
Asus Dark Hero motherboard
GSkill Ram 32 GB 3600MHz
980 Pro SSD x 2
Seasonic 850W PSU
Corsair 780T case
Thermaltake 360mm AIO top mounted
Acer Predator 27" 165Hz 1440P
FPS capped at 160 with RTSS
Graphics settings on ultra with DLAA

The reason I say this is a game issue and not a cooling issue is because there are many reports of the game running extremely hot in certain areas in the game. Frequently hitting 80 to 95C or even thermal throttling. I am back at one of the starting areas in the game and the CPU temp is back down to 60C.

So the question is more about why the CPU fan curve isn't reacting as I set it in BIOS. Maybe temps aren't really that high because I am monitoring "CPU" in Afterburner. Maybe BIOS is monitoring a single core?

Most programs report "Effective temperature" just like it was a single core processor. If you want more details use a program like HWinfo

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As for AIO cooling, pump is most critical component, set it to 100% all the time.
Further temperature reduction can be achieved with voltage and power control for CPU. To start with try CO (Curve Optimizer) in BIOS or Ryzen Master which dynamically scales voltage down. Range is from -10 to -30.

 

[emitfudd]

Most programs report "Effective temperature" just like it was a single core processor. If you want more details use a program like HWinfo

Free Download HWiNFO Sofware | Installer & Portable for Windows, DOS

Start to analyze your hardware right now! HWiNFO has available as an Installer and Portable version for Windows (32/64-bit) and Portable version for DOS.

www.hwinfo.com

As for AIO cooling, pump is most critical component, set it to 100% all the time.
Further temperature reduction can be achieved with voltage and power control for CPU. To start with try CO (Curve Optimizer) in BIOS or Ryzen Master which dynamically scales voltage down. Range is from -10 to -30.

Thanks for the reply but that doesn't answer why my fan curve in BIOS is being ignored if the reported temp of 80C is correct.

I stated I am using HW info and it is reporting the same temp.

My AIO pump is at 100%. As I said this isn't a cooling issue, it's a game issue. Trying to figure out if I am monitoring the right selection for CPU temp in Afterburner and fans not ramping up to 100% when temps surpass my curve limit.

 

[Phaaze88]

Thanks for the reply but that doesn't answer why my fan curve in BIOS is being ignored if the reported temp of 80C is correct.

How many cores get there though?

 

[emitfudd]

How many cores get there though?

https://imgur.com/a/T7TjUYj

View: https://imgur.com/a/T7TjUYj

 

[Phaaze88]

https://imgur.com/a/T7TjUYj

View: https://imgur.com/a/T7TjUYj

Umm, yeah, that's not it. Each core isn't being displayed.
I believe you gotta use Ryzen Master for that.

 

[CountMike]

Thanks for the reply but that doesn't answer why my fan curve in BIOS is being ignored if the reported temp of 80C is correct.

I stated I am using HW info and it is reporting the same temp.

My AIO pump is at 100%. As I said this isn't a cooling issue, it's a game issue. Trying to figure out if I am monitoring the right selection for CPU temp in Afterburner and fans not ramping up to 100% when temps surpass my curve limit.

It's a "game issue" only in that it pushes your PC harder than others, which uses more energy, hence heating more. When you say "in certain areas" means that there's more going on requiring more computing power than in rest.

 

[emitfudd]

Umm, yeah, that's not it. Each core isn't being displayed.
I believe you gotta use Ryzen Master for that.

Core temperatures says max 74.2C. If I have my fan curve set to reach 100% at 75C I should have heard them ramp up to almost 100%. I played the game again last night and never reached higher than 62C. I can try letting Ryzen Master run in the background and go back to the area where it ran at 80C.

 

[emitfudd]

It's a "game issue" only in that it pushes your PC harder than others, which uses more energy, hence heating more. When you say "in certain areas" means that there's more going on requiring more computing power than in rest.

Other players on Steam reported the same issue. Normally running at temps of 50C to 60C and ramping up to 80C to throttling temp for no apparent reason. The area that got me to 80C didn't have anything extra going on. In fact it had way less NPC's and activity than the starting area where I was in the 60's.

 

[CountMike]

Other players on Steam reported the same issue. Normally running at temps of 50C to 60C and ramping up to 80C to throttling temp for no apparent reason. The area that got me to 80C didn't have anything extra going on. In fact it had way less NPC's and activity than the starting area where I was in the 60's.

It wouldn't be first or last badly optimized game.

 

[emitfudd]

I don't see any way to view individual core temps in Ryzen Master. I am on the advanced screen. It only shows one temp at the top. I'm surprised HWinfo doesn't report individual core temps.

 

[Richj444]

I don't see any way to view individual core temps in Ryzen Master. I am on the advanced screen. It only shows one temp at the top. I'm surprised HWinfo doesn't report individual core temps.

HWInfo does report individual core temps.

 

[emitfudd]

HWInfo does report individual core temps.

According to the screenshot of HWinfo it doesn't. What am I missing? Phaaze88 specifically said each core isn't being displayed.

 

[emitfudd]

I have enabled monitoring of CPU1 through CPU 12 as well as CPU in Afterburner. After playing the game for a while I will open Afterburner and see how the max temps for each core compare to one another. If they are all the same or at least close, I will go back to my original question of why my fans aren't following the curve set in BIOS.