News AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D: Alleged specs and launch timeframe leak

[Admin]

AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D allegedly features 4.7 GHz – 5.2 GHz clocks, launches in early November.

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[gg83]

I guess we'll see. I doubt it would makes sense to upgrade from the 7800x3d. Upgrading the 7800xt videocard would be better?

 

[Nikolay Mihaylov]

I guess we'll see. I doubt it would makes sense to upgrade from the 7800x3d. Upgrading the 7800xt videocard would be better?

No, it doesn't make snese. And why should anyone? Which game does the 7800X3D choke on so badly, that would require a new CPU?

Zen 4 owners should upgrade to Zen 5 only if moving up a tier, i.e. non-X3D to X3D or single CCD to dual CCD. Otherwise it's money down the drain.

 

[usertests]

The amazing part is that the 7800X3D will already top the Arrow Lake charts AMD wants to top.

9950X = 4.3 GHz base, 5.7 GHz boost (170W)
9800X3D = 4.7 GHz base, >5.2 boost (one core)???
9700X = 3.8 GHz base, 5.5 boost (65W)
7800X3D = 4.2 GHz base, 5.0 boost (120W)
7700X = 4.5 GHz base, 5.4 boost (105W)

^If the 9800X3D is doing 5.2 GHz all-core, then maybe it has a higher boost than that for one core, such as 5.5-5.7 GHz.

Seems likely they will slap a 105 or 120W TDP on the 9800X3D, and make it the savior of the lineup, especially if it can clock higher than the 7800X3D right out of the box.

The 9900X3D is completely useless and should not exist. 6-core + V-Cache should be used for a 9600X3D instead.

 

[jeremyj_83]

Seems likely they will slap a 105 or 120W TDP on the 9800X3D, and make it the savior of the lineup, especially if it can clock higher than the 7800X3D right out of the box.

The only time a 105W TDP helps performance is in applications that can use all the cores. Gaming doesn't use all the cores and there is no difference in performance on the 9700X between 65W and 105W TDPs.

 

[DS426]

I guess we'll see. I doubt it would makes sense to upgrade from the 7800x3d. Upgrading the 7800xt videocard would be better?

Correct -- the 7800 XT is your bottleneck in most gaming cases, not the 7800X3D. Don't get me wrong, I think the 9800X3D will provide a solid uplift whereas vanilla Zen 5 has been meh over vanilla Zen 4, but one needs a seriously strong GPU to make these CPU's sweat in games, like the RTX 4090.

 

[DS426]

I'm curious what single, two, and four-core turbo boost look like if 9800X3D can sustain 5.2 GHz on all cores? Time will tell if that's a golden sample but if that's the norm, this chip is going to be faaaaaast!

Reminds me of the Athlon Thunderbird days and the race to 1 GHz.

 

[usertests]

The only time a 105W TDP helps performance is in applications that can use all the cores. Gaming doesn't use all the cores and there is no difference in performance on the 9700X between 65W and 105W TDPs.

It may be unrelated, but the point is that it looks like the 9800X3D will clock higher than the 7800X3D (which had a 120W TDP) and 9700X (at least at its 65W defaults). For both all-core and single-core turbo clocks.

This tracks with the expectation that the special feature of 9000X3D chips is full overclocking support. There may be no voltage issues preventing it from clocking as high as other chips in the lineup.

 

[aberkae]

I guess we'll see. I doubt it would makes sense to upgrade from the 7800x3d. Upgrading the 7800xt videocard would be better?

True but the 5090 will probably need all the cpu gains you can throw at it to mitigate cpu bottleneck.

 

[Makaveli]

No, it doesn't make snese. And why should anyone? Which game does the 7800X3D choke on so badly, that would require a new CPU?

Zen 4 owners should upgrade to Zen 5 only if moving up a tier, i.e. non-X3D to X3D or single CCD to dual CCD. Otherwise it's money down the drain.

Agreed fight the FOMO people.

Those of us on Zen 3 are who the upgrades are for