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A Celeron would be a monster with 12mb of cache. That much cache wont be cheap.
Intel purposely releaed before AMD. Not hard when you have 5 times the engineers. Intel always plays dirty, thats their game.
They have had the performance lead for a whole 6 months now, lets see if they can keep it.
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And let me guess, cache is a gimmick too, right? I mean, all these features are just gimmicks and down right foul play.

I mean, trying to stay ahead of your competition is such a vile and evil thing to do right? We should call up AMD and tell them to not be like Intel and do the right thing by canceling the release of Barcelona and the R600. Surely that would the the right thing to do, eh?

@Everyone else,
I retract my statement about the table from Xtremesystems being a possible fake, and by extent apologize to the posters on this site and theirs that brought it to light.

.... Holy fock, I want one of these...
 
@Everyone else,
I retract my statement about the table from Xtremesystems being a possible fake, and by extent apologize to the posters on this site and theirs that brought it to light.
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Apology accepted.

The mind boggles at how overclocked Penryns are going to perform. I dont see Conroe's extreme overclockability vanishing in the transition to 45 nm.

A nice 4 GHZ OCed Penryn on air-cooling would be 8)
 
OMFG!

Nice benchys, babe. Come to poppa! 8)

I just dropped in to catch a couple of quick headlines and then come back later today to bug everyone in my patented CRA fashion, and what do I see? Just one day before AMD's Q1 call? If anyone has any doubt that it is Intel's specific premeditated plan to devastate AMD, kindly surgically excise such doubt today!

The Thrilla In Tunisia is looking more and more like just another sandstorm!

I'm dusting off a nice spot in my tower case for my dual Penryn Skulltrail (Still hate that Skulltrail name though!) 😀
 
@Everyone else,
I retract my statement about the table from Xtremesystems being a possible fake, and by extent apologize to the posters on this site and theirs that brought it to light.
Click to expand...
Apology accepted.

The mind boggles at how overclocked Penryns are going to perform. I dont see Conroe's extreme overclockability vanishing in the transition to 45 nm.

A nice 4 GHZ OCed Penryn on air-cooling would be 8)
I don't understand how the potential could just sky rocket like that on only a die shrink... what the hell kind of devil chip is this?
 
As expected, just before big R600 and Barce show, oponents are showing their goodies to steal the thunder :wink: nVidia released mid-ranged DX10 as we speak, maybe will show 8800 Ultra to selected few. Intel showed Penryn, and all of this one week before AMD biggest launch this year.

Although a lot of are creaming over Penryn, personaly I was expecting 20+% clock-for-clock across the board, as Intel said about Wolfdale, but its a bit disapointing 5-10% improvement. Yorkfield on the other hand looks very nice and in muti-threaded apps will do great.

Since main Barce competition will be Yorkfield, I would say (wild guess based on preliminary info) they will fare quite similar clock for clock, but as we all know, Intel will ramp up clock speeds faster, and thats there the main Barce problem will be, not performance on the same speed IMO.
 
OMFG!

Nice benchys, babe. Come to poppa! 8)

I just dropped in to catch a couple of quick headlines and then come back later today to bug everyone in my patented CRA fashion, and what do I see? Just one day before AMD's Q1 call? If anyone has any doubt that it is Intel's specific premeditated plan to devastate AMD, kindly surgically excise such doubt today!

The Thrilla In Tunisia is looking more and more like just another sandstorm!

I'm dusting off a nice spot in my tower case for my dual Penryn Skulltrail (Still hate that Skulltrail name though!) 😀
Click to expand...

I think it's an awesome name, hehe. You know whose skulls Intel's engineers had in mind with it....
 
@Everyone else,
I retract my statement about the table from Xtremesystems being a possible fake, and by extent apologize to the posters on this site and theirs that brought it to light.
Click to expand...
Apology accepted.

The mind boggles at how overclocked Penryns are going to perform. I dont see Conroe's extreme overclockability vanishing in the transition to 45 nm.

A nice 4 GHZ OCed Penryn on air-cooling would be 8)
I don't understand how the potential could just sky rocket like that on only a die shrink... what the hell kind of devil chip is this?

Ssshhh....
It's an ancient secret we found in the deserts of NM, Oregon, Ireland, and Israel...some strange glowing scrolls (looks like it was written on a parchment using WordPerfect, it's that old), with all kinds of strange mathematical equations that all end up with the number 42...strange....

Back on topic -

I'm shocked at the data from the IDF. Yes, it was all pre-production items, but still, it was mindboggling. I seriously believe that the leaked data was a mix of real and made up stuff, but now...wow.
 
@Everyone else,
I retract my statement about the table from Xtremesystems being a possible fake, and by extent apologize to the posters on this site and theirs that brought it to light.
Click to expand...
Apology accepted.

The mind boggles at how overclocked Penryns are going to perform. I dont see Conroe's extreme overclockability vanishing in the transition to 45 nm.

A nice 4 GHZ OCed Penryn on air-cooling would be 8)
I don't understand how the potential could just sky rocket like that on only a die shrink... what the hell kind of devil chip is this?
I think most of this is about SSE4 and Hi-K.
 
At least a little victory for us AMD guys, we can upgrade with a K10, you Intel guys need at least a new Mobo, as the article says
The processors were plugged into a modified Intel BadAxe2 motherboard, with the modification being necessary to support Penryn.
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Just shows I was right to put my money on AMD for making the best upgrade path for the people!
 
I don't understand how the potential could just sky rocket like that on only a die shrink... what the hell kind of devil chip is this?
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They had some tests that used SSE4. Anything that uses SSEn vs. something that doesn't use SSEn will be a ton faster as SSEn instructions are shortcuts of sorts.
 
Although a lot of are creaming over Penryn, personaly I was expecting 20+% clock-for-clock across the board, as Intel said about Wolfdale, but its a bit disapointing 5-10% improvement. Yorkfield on the other hand looks very nice and in muti-threaded apps will do great.
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While more than a simple die shrink, Penryn is still based on the same uarch as Conroe. A 20% improvement over the already impressive Conroe IPC is a bit unrealistic IMO. 😉

Penryn performs in line with my expectations, though the benefits of SSE4 are greater than I anticipated. I would guess Intel chose the best application to test it though, so the 110% jump in Divx encoding can probably be seen as a best case scenario for SSE4.
 
As expected, just before big R600 and Barce show, oponents are showing their goodies to steal the thunder :wink: nVidia released mid-ranged DX10 as we speak, maybe will show 8800 Ultra to selected few. Intel showed Penryn, and all of this one week before AMD biggest launch this year.

Although a lot of are creaming over Penryn, personaly I was expecting 20+% clock-for-clock across the board, as Intel said about Wolfdale, but its a bit disapointing 5-10% improvement. Yorkfield on the other hand looks very nice and in muti-threaded apps will do great.

Since main Barce competition will be Yorkfield, I would say (wild guess based on preliminary info) they will fare quite similar clock for clock, but as we all know, Intel will ramp up clock speeds faster, and thats there the main Barce problem will be, not performance on the same speed IMO.
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If you want 20+% clock-for-clock across the board, need to wait for Nehalem. The Pentyn is still the same basic architecture as the Conroe. Still, the SSE4 and Hi-K has a lot to show :)
 
OMFG!

Nice benchys, babe. Come to poppa! 8)

I just dropped in to catch a couple of quick headlines and then come back later today to bug everyone in my patented CRA fashion, and what do I see? Just one day before AMD's Q1 call? If anyone has any doubt that it is Intel's specific premeditated plan to devastate AMD, kindly surgically excise such doubt today!
Click to expand...

And tomorrow we will know definitively how the plan is working.

The Thrilla In Tunisia is looking more and more like just another sandstorm!
Click to expand...

Now if everyone can put on your rose colored glasses and then we can look into the mirror and we see behind this blue smoke....

I'm dusting off a nice spot in my tower case for my dual Penryn Skulltrail (Still hate that Skulltrail name though!) 😀
Click to expand...

The Skulltrail name is Intel's way of thanking AMD for the performance advances they have instituted to compete with AMD.
 
At least a little victory for us AMD guys, we can upgrade with a K10, you Intel guys need at least a new Mobo, as the article says The processors were plugged into a modified Intel BadAxe2 motherboard, with the modification being necessary to support Penryn.
Click to expand...
Just shows I was right to put my money on AMD for making the best upgrade path for the people!

This reflects only the 975 chipset. There is hope for the 965/680/650/RD600. I honestly don't know what the likelihood is, or the potential performance from using an older mobo, but don't make sweeping generalizations. The 975 chipset is from the 8/9 series days, so chillax
 
I still think skulltrail will ultimately fail (which means relegated to people with too much money and don't know what to do with it). I wouldn't expect many people, even enthusiasts, to embrace twice the heat, more ridiculous mobo's, increased cost, and not double performance. Admittedly, Intel could pull off a coup and get more of a performance increase than 4x4 achieved, but I am not holding my breath for it ever being reasonable for a gamer to own.

It will be a nice piece of engineering... but completely useless (unless you do rendering, etc).
 
I still think skulltrail will ultimately fail (which means relegated to people with too much money and don't know what to do with it). I wouldn't expect many people, even enthusiasts, to embrace twice the heat, more ridiculous mobo's, increased cost, and not double performance. Admittedly, Intel could pull off a coup and get more of a performance increase than 4x4 achieved, but I am not holding my breath for it ever being reasonable for a gamer to own.

It will be a nice piece of engineering... but completely useless (unless you do rendering, etc).
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Well, it's obviously for the highest-end applications and customers. No one is going to argue that, but they do exist.
 
I still think skulltrail will ultimately fail (which means relegated to people with too much money and don't know what to do with it). I wouldn't expect many people, even enthusiasts, to embrace twice the heat, more ridiculous mobo's, increased cost, and not double performance. Admittedly, Intel could pull off a coup and get more of a performance increase than 4x4 achieved, but I am not holding my breath for it ever being reasonable for a gamer to own.

It will be a nice piece of engineering... but completely useless (unless you do rendering, etc).
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I would expect Skulltrail is a workstation machine for rendering and solid modeling. The platform is of no consequence the name is the subject.
 
I still think skulltrail will ultimately fail (which means relegated to people with too much money and don't know what to do with it). I wouldn't expect many people, even enthusiasts, to embrace twice the heat, more ridiculous mobo's, increased cost, and not double performance. Admittedly, Intel could pull off a coup and get more of a performance increase than 4x4 achieved, but I am not holding my breath for it ever being reasonable for a gamer to own.

It will be a nice piece of engineering... but completely useless (unless you do rendering, etc).
Click to expand...

Well, it's obviously for the highest-end applications and customers. No one is going to argue that, but they do exist.

Oh come on... you know AMD tried to sell 4x4 as a gaming platform... :wink:
 
Intel purposely releaed before AMD. Not hard when you have 5 times the engineers. Intel always plays dirty, thats their game.
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Welcome to America and Capitalism, buddy. It's called competition and the smart survive. Intel has to worry about Intel and for the last year, they've had the better product and the better strategy. It's up to AMD to find a way to compete and if they can't, bummer but that's the way it goes. Can't blame the consumers for picking the better product, it's just the way of things.

Beating your competitors is your game as a company, but it's not playing dirty. Unless you live in a Socialist economy...no thanks.
 
As expected, just before big R600 and Barce show, oponents are showing their goodies to steal the thunder :wink: nVidia released mid-ranged DX10 as we speak, maybe will show 8800 Ultra to selected few. Intel showed Penryn, and all of this one week before AMD biggest launch this year.

Although a lot of are creaming over Penryn, personaly I was expecting 20+% clock-for-clock across the board, as Intel said about Wolfdale, but its a bit disapointing 5-10% improvement. Yorkfield on the other hand looks very nice and in muti-threaded apps will do great.

Since main Barce competition will be Yorkfield, I would say (wild guess based on preliminary info) they will fare quite similar clock for clock, but as we all know, Intel will ramp up clock speeds faster, and thats there the main Barce problem will be, not performance on the same speed IMO.
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You forget that it's 5 - 10% range at "minimum" depending on the application. Until there are more significant tests done, we won't know how much faster Penryn is clock for clock.
 
The Skulltrail name is Intel's way of thanking AMD for the performance advances they have instituted to compete with AMD.
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Baldy, I have long counted upon you as an endless source of inspiration and you've inspired me once again:



Now I gotta get some work done to pay the bills! I'll be back later to put in my 2.1 cents in (inflation.)

P.S. aj, you're right: "Well, it's obviously for the highest-end applications and customers. No one is going to argue that, but they do exist." I iz one o dem. I gonna stay up nites n maik xtra munshine n Im gonna buy it! :lol:
 
Jack, How do you see the current benchmarks on Anandtech site to you, I know they havnt done other like BF2 or Fear, ETC. What would convince you that Yorkdale and Wolfdale will have a good solid bandwith on the FSB. Be gentle, I am still a noob on this forum, but a long time watcher on CPU topic.
 
Jack, How do you see the current benchmarks on Anandtech site to you, I know they havnt done other like BF2 or Fear, ETC. What would convince you that Yorkdale and Wolfdale will have a good solid bandwith on the FSB. Be gentle, I am still a noob on this forum, but a long time watcher on CPU topic.
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lol
 
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