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DanS wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in news:OFU
> $2CbiFHA.1412@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
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>>"All Things Mopar" <useMAPSnet123@comMAPScast.net> wrote in message
>>news:Xns9694E6F4D5EACReplyToken@216.196.97.136...
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>>>On this date, =?Utf-8?B?TWFydHk=?= extended this wisdom for
>>>the consideration of other readers...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've been using MS Anti-Spyware Beta 1 for several weeks.
>>>>Recently, when trying to update, the program says it
>>>>downloads and installs updates but when I check for future
>>>>updates the same one supposedly already downloaded and
>>>>installed shows up again. For example, I got to definitions
>>>>5729, but 5733 was but wasn't installed several times; and
>>>>then it was 5735 the same. So I uninstalled the program and
>>>>downloaded and reinstalled it. Now I have definitions 5725
>>>>and have tried without success to download and install 5735
>>>>several times. Anyone got any ideas what the problem might
>>>>be? I also have Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, Bazooka, and Spyware
>>>>Blaster.
>>>
>>>Your experience is precisely why I don't beta test and don't buy
>>>the version 1.0 of anything. I let other people destroy their
>>>sanity and their systems, I only come in after reports show that
>>>the product is stable.
>>>
>>>Plus, with the long track record of mediocre apps, utilities,
>>>and security in general, why would you at all trust MS's view of
>>>the spyware business? If for no other reason, M$ is hated and
>>>reviled world-wide and is attacked for security exploites purely
>>>for the fun of it.
>>>
>>>--
>>>ATM, aka Jerry
>>
>>Well said.
>>
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>
> I DO KNOW for a fact, that after wasting 6 or 7 hours of MY time over 2
> days trying to clean the 'APA Internet Enhancement' package of of
> someone's computer using the standard tools....Spybot, AdAware,
> HiJackThis!, manual registry examination and cleaning, etc., 30 re-boot's
> later and with an all-time high of level of frustration and anger, I
> decided to try M$ Anti-spyware.
>
> One 10 minute safe-mode scan later, it was gone, never to return.
>
> I think of it this way.....M$ Antispyware is just another tool to use.
> While I still use the other's for a 'once-a-week' scan, the M$ AS
> provide's realtime protection, that would have stopped that particular
> package from installing in the first place. I know this for a fact
> because that particular package add's to the Shell entry in the registry
> under HKLM/S/M$/WindowsNT/Winlogon. I am writing a shell replacement,
> which periodically requires me to change that entry from Explorer.exe to
> myApp.exe to test it's full shell replacement functions. EVERY time I
> change that entry M$ AS blocks it until I allow or not allow it to occur.
>
> Also, who else should be more knowledgable about the vulnerabilities of
> Windows and how you can exploit it, and how to fix it back up. Not
> considering price, would you be better off taking your car to an Auto-
> Tune, or to the dealer for service ? (Of course I know there are some
> d**k-head dealer mechanics out there.)
>
> I'm not saying that it is a replacement for ALL anti-spyware packages,
> just that it's another tool that has been effective for me where others
> have failed.
>
>
>
That's fine "if" you can get it to update (which I repeatedly cannot). A
much better alternative is Counter Spy which has very high
recommendations and is a finished product.
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