Any 4K 120Hz or 144Hz TVs Out There With GSync? (50+ Inches)

[Kimberling]

Title says it all.

I'm curious if there are any large monitors/tv's (50 inches or larger) out there for gaming.

I'm looking for something that supports 4K definition at a high refresh rate (120 Hz or 144 Hz).

Additionally, it should have GSync technology to prevent any screen tearing.

I've been looking online, and have found plenty of smaller monitors with these features, but I'm interested in a gloriously large screen.

Also, I've seen a few "120Hz" screens on 4k tv's... but they're not true 120Hz. Its just a marketing gimmick where they display the same frame twice, so technically its 120 FPS, but you're only see 60 different frames per second.

 

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I'm pretty sure the biggest G-Sync monitors are in the 34" PC monitor range. There definitely aren't any full-sized TVs with G-Sync, since it's a gaming technology and most TVs aren't really designed specifically for that.

Here's the biggest one I was able to find on Newegg with G-Sync:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA57X4AK0771

Acer Predator Z35 35" 21:9 Ultra-wide Curved Monitor G-Sync (NVIDIA Adaptive Sync) 144Hz 4ms 2560 x 1080 (2K) 300 cd/m2 100,000,000:1 HDMI Display Port w/ Built in Speakers

 

[mrmez]

Nope. ~34" is the biggest you'll find.
Anyway, what gfx cards do you intend on using?

 

[Kimberling]

I'm pretty sure the biggest G-Sync monitors are in the 34" PC monitor range. There definitely aren't any full-sized TVs with G-Sync, since it's a gaming technology and most TVs aren't really designed specifically for that.

Here's the biggest one I was able to find on Newegg with G-Sync:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA57X4AK0771

Acer Predator Z35 35" 21:9 Ultra-wide Curved Monitor G-Sync (NVIDIA Adaptive Sync) 144Hz 4ms 2560 x 1080 (2K) 300 cd/m2 100,000,000:1 HDMI Display Port w/ Built in Speakers

Yeah as i said, I was having difficulty finding something. Its really unfortunately since I enjoy gaming from my couch (with wireless M/KB).

Nope. ~34" is the biggest you'll find.
Anyway, what gfx cards do you intend on using?

Looking at SLI GTX 1080s.

 

[Solandri]

Also, I've seen a few "120Hz" screens on 4k tv's... but they're not true 120Hz. Its just a marketing gimmick where they display the same frame twice, so technically its 120 FPS, but you're only see 60 different frames per second.

120 Hz TVs exist for one reason - to eliminate judder when displaying 24 fps movies.

If you try to show a 24 fps movie on a 60 Hz TV, you run into a problem. 60 / 24 = 2.5. So the only way to do it is to show frame 1 for 2 TV frames, frame 2 for 3 TV frames, frame 3 for 2 TV frames, frame 4 for 3 TV frames, etc. The result of this uneven playback is a vibration called judder. Smooth panning shots appear to jitter. Something moving at constant speed across the screen appears to rapidly speed up and slow down.

Two techniques were invented to solve this. The first is frame interpolation. You use a computer to make up in-between frames, turning the 24 fps movies into 60 fps. This creates the dreaded Soap Opera Effect, where the movie now looks like video instead of film (because video is shot at 60 fps interlaced).

The other technique is to increase the TV's refresh rate to 120 Hz. 120 / 24 = 5. So all you have to do is show each movie frame for 5 TV frames. Smooth pans remain smooth. Constant motion remains constant.

So yes the TV's panel displays 120 Hz. But AFAIK none of these TVs let you send a 120 Hz signal to them. Only the internal image processor has a 120 Hz connection to the panel. In particular, a 4k 120 Hz TV would require DisplayPort 1.3 or 1.4 input in order actually show 120 different frames per second from an external video source. Neither HDMI nor DVI have enough bandwidth.

240 Hz TVs are the same thing, except for showing 3D movies shot at 24 fps (48 fps displayed for 3D).

 

[Kimberling]

Also, if a Mod could move this thread to "displays" instead of "graphics cards" that would be appreciated.
From the Tomshardware homepage clicking on "Graphics and Displays" brings you to the graphics card forum page.
Sorry for posting in the wrong area.

 

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This thread has been moved to the Displays section.

 

[r4zerM0use]

y u even buy that? i dont know of any with just 1ms, wich i preffer/recommend for gamign