So I think I've settled on the AP201 for my next build and one question I have is if I get a modest sized ATX or SFX power supply can you squeeze an extra 120mm fan up front or is it completely not compatible
There were even 4090 models that fit, but you should definitely check the length, because not every model fits as you said. I'm using a Sapphire Pulse 7900XT and it fits so easily as its only 313mm in length.the 7900xtx wouldnt fit 6900xt was 320mm the 7900xtx is 350mm ( due to psu location )
ive since over killed with as my sig says a 420mm arctic but im using a thermaltake ceres 500 case now ..There were even 4090 models that fit, but you should definitely check the length, because not every model fits as you said. I'm using a Sapphire Pulse 7900XT and it fits so easily as its only 313mm in length.
I'd also recommend against a 360mm rad if possible, because with that you need to put the PSU to lower positions, which makes both GPU and power cable clearances hard to work with. 7600X with a 240mm AIO works absolutely amazing for me.
Using a smaller ATX PSU if possible makes everything easier as well.
I just love that you can use almost full size components and still carry the case under your arm easily. It's a very good middle ground.
850W is more than enough, if you're not using a top tier CPU.still have to look at the fundamentals any thing 7900xtx you really need a 1000w psu
I was having around 92-94 at cinebench multicore and around 70-75 while gaming with a 240, but I optimized the PBO curve and put a 75W limit, I get the same single and multi core scores with only 65-70 degrees now. Won't even go higher than 55 during gaming. I was a bit lucky with the CPU though, my silicon handled -30 Curve with no problems at all.7600x i could only manage to keep it at 85c with the 420mm arctic..
7800x3d you could use a 360mm then could be issues with fitting other components ..850W is more than enough, if you're not using a top tier CPU.
I was having around 92-94 at cinebench multicore and around 70-75 while gaming with a 240, but I optimized the PBO curve and put a 75W limit, I get the same single and multi core scores with only 65-70 degrees now. Won't even go higher than 55 during gaming. I was a bit lucky with the CPU though, my silicon handled -30 Curve with no problems at all.
The case definitely needs some compromises and careful planning though, you're right. It's also not the best for CPUs that require more cooling. The X3D's or something like an i9, 7950X etc would be too much probably.