Any future for AM3+ ?

[Alexandar Langer]

Is there any future for AM3+ or should i move on to Intel of fm2+??
I want to build a new pc.. So i currently have a basic am3+ motherboard and fx 4100, radeon msi HD7850. I plan to build a new pc ...Sooo should i buy a very decent am3+ mobo and FX 8 core cpu or Intel 1150 ,and probably an i5 cpu?Or should i get this new FM2+ mobo and A10 cpu?I mean willba quad core be enough? I want to play games and some hc video editing in Blender etc. I know my gpu sucks right now ,will upgrade it as soon as i get money for r9 290 😛 . I saved about 370 euros (around 500$) for mother board and cpu

 

[Xiembeest]

AMD will stop making FX series CPU's which occupy the AM3(+) socket and focus on APU's instead which will propably be on the FM2 socket. The 8350(AMD) and 4670k(Intel) are really close but if you're video editing and working in blender, you will make use the 8 cores in 8350 and will therefore be faster. However, the 4670k is still a very fast CPU and in most games it will beat the 8350.

I wouldn't worry about AM3(+) being a dead socket for now.

 

[rymu2000]

Go intel i5 or i7 and asrock extreme 4

 

[tcb1005]

I think that they are going to release a new CPU series. The FX series ran out of numbers. Also, any new CPUs they make probably won't be AM3+.

 

[Adroid]

AMD will stop making FX series CPU's which occupy the AM3(+) socket and focus on APU's instead which will propably be on the FM2 socket. The 8350(AMD) and 4670k(Intel) are really close but if you're video editing and working in blender, you will make use the 8 cores in 8350 and will therefore be faster. However, the 4670k is still a very fast CPU and in most games it will beat the 8350.

I wouldn't worry about AM3(+) being a dead socket for now.

Can you show some graphs or data reflecting this Statement? I haven't seen any application where the 8350 is faster than the 4670K and I'm curious.

 

[Novuake]

What exact mobo do you have? A decent upgrade on it is going for a FX6300/8320 which leaves you some money for a graphics card later on.

 

[Novuake]

AMD will stop making FX series CPU's which occupy the AM3(+) socket and focus on APU's instead which will propably be on the FM2 socket. The 8350(AMD) and 4670k(Intel) are really close but if you're video editing and working in blender, you will make use the 8 cores in 8350 and will therefore be faster. However, the 4670k is still a very fast CPU and in most games it will beat the 8350.

I wouldn't worry about AM3(+) being a dead socket for now.

"AMD will stop making FX series CPU's which occupy the AM3"

Source?

 

[Novuake]

Can you show some graphs or data reflecting this Statement? I haven't seen any application where the 8350 is faster than the 4670K and I'm curious.

The only game that I know off that runs a bit better on the 8350 is Crysis3.

 

[Xiembeest]

AMD will stop making FX series CPU's which occupy the AM3(+) socket and focus on APU's instead which will propably be on the FM2 socket. The 8350(AMD) and 4670k(Intel) are really close but if you're video editing and working in blender, you will make use the 8 cores in 8350 and will therefore be faster. However, the 4670k is still a very fast CPU and in most games it will beat the 8350.

I wouldn't worry about AM3(+) being a dead socket for now.

Can you show some graphs or data reflecting this Statement? I haven't seen any application where the 8350 is faster than the 4670K and I'm curious.

No problem!
http://anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=837

 

[dgingeri]

AM3+ will still stick around for the high end AMD processors while FM2+ will be the continuation for their lower end processors. Both are going to continue for some time. As far as I've heard, the only overlap between the two will be at the quad core level, but the AM3+ will have 3rd level cache. FM2+ will continue on with only dual and quad core, while AM3+ will continue on with 6 and 8 core. Which to go with depends entirely on your needs. I have a FM2 board for my HTPC with an A4-5300 and an AM3+ system with a FX-6100 for my practice VM host.

 

[JD88]

Go with Intel for sure. AMD has admitted that it is done in the performance desktop market.

 

[Adroid]

AMD will stop making FX series CPU's which occupy the AM3(+) socket and focus on APU's instead which will propably be on the FM2 socket. The 8350(AMD) and 4670k(Intel) are really close but if you're video editing and working in blender, you will make use the 8 cores in 8350 and will therefore be faster. However, the 4670k is still a very fast CPU and in most games it will beat the 8350.

I wouldn't worry about AM3(+) being a dead socket for now.

Can you show some graphs or data reflecting this Statement? I haven't seen any application where the 8350 is faster than the 4670K and I'm curious.

No problem!
http://anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=837

Interesting. Too bad it doesn't show gaming results. So they trade blows in synthetics at stock clocks. I'm curious how the 4670K does at 4.0 ghz compared to the 8350 @ 4.0 ghz.

 

[Rookie_MIB]

Well, AM3+ is currently looking to be out of production eventually - if you're looking for an upgrade to the CPU you have the FX-8000 (8 cores @ 3.5-4.0 ghz) series or even (If you dare) the FX-9500 (8 cores @ 4.5-5.0ghz) series. Either one should crunch videos, number, games, etc without breaking a sweat.

In the long term though, AM3/AM3+ is going to be retired because the tech of the chips is constantly evolving which requires new pinouts and features, so - simple evolution will 'expire' your hardware for you eventually. Good news is that the AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+ is all moderately interchangeable and has been around for quite a while which means parts should be available for a while, just nothing new.

Truth be told though, from a performance perspective, take a look at how robust the hardware is? Any gaming and video rendering benchmarks you see still show the Phenom II x 6 performing very respectably (and sometimes even better than the FX8000 series) because it was -that- good and that much of a beast of a chip. Yes, it eats a lot of power, but not for nothing.

So - should you upgrade to FM2+ and the A10 series? I have one of those (Asus FM2A85-M w/ A10-5700) and it's a nice quick setup with good provisions for Hybrid graphics (iGpu + dGpu) and also with 2 PCI-e slots it would be fine for a Crossfire/SLI for some potent graphics (or mining, or video editing, or anything). The problem is this - one more generation of chips will be released on FM2/FM2+, then they're planning on changing again and it will be (almost certainly) not compatible. At that point you'll be in the same position you are in now so it might be best to wait if you're looking to upgrade until they release their next socket then jump in for new hardware after the reviews come out.

 

[Novuake]

Interesting. Too bad it doesn't show gaming results. So they trade blows in synthetics at stock clocks. I'm curious how the 4670K does at 4.0 ghz compared to the 8350 @ 4.0 ghz.

The 8350 is stock 4GHz. So not really any way to compare.

 

[Alexandar Langer]

Ty guys for quick answers! I picked intel.
Intel i5 4670k
Gigabyte Z87p D3.
So the complete setup will be(for now)
Gigabyte z87p D3
Intel I5 4670k + Raijintek Themis
AMD radeon MSI 7850 oc
Kingston hyper 8GB cl9,1600mhz
Corsair 650TX 650w

 

[Rookie_MIB]

Ty guys for quick answers! I picked intel.
Intel i5 4670k
Gigabyte Z87p D3.
So the complete setup will be(for now)
Gigabyte z87p D3
Intel I5 4670k + Raijintek Themis
AMD radeon MSI 7850 oc
Kingston hyper 8GB cl9,1600mhz
Corsair 650TX 650w

Looks like it'll be a fun little computer. I would make an observation though. One of the biggest problems (disappointments?) with Haswell based processors is their overclocking - or lack thereof. Because of the density of the processor - it just doesn't have a lot of thermal headroom (heat generated vs cooling surface vs dicey heatspreader assembly) Thus I would question the decision of going with an unlocked processor - perhaps save yourself $20.00 or so since the gains have been found to be marginal at best and put it to your 'R9-290x' fund. You'll need all the money you can at this point - those suckers are through the roof. I have a R9-270x and it's a fast freaking card - the 290 is a beast - a $700.00 beast.

 

[JD88]

Interesting. Too bad it doesn't show gaming results. So they trade blows in synthetics at stock clocks. I'm curious how the 4670K does at 4.0 ghz compared to the 8350 @ 4.0 ghz.

The 8350 is stock 4GHz. So not really any way to compare.

Stock just means clocked that way out of the box. It's using about double the power than the Intel chip and really doesn't have any more overclocking headroom. When you buy an unlocked CPU, you buy it to overclock. When both chips are clocked at 4.4-4.5 (where they would top out on reasonable cooling) the Intel chip would win by a mile. AMD just clocks higher out of the box to make it seem like the performance difference isn't so great. Intel is more concerned about power consumption so they clock lower.

I forgot to mention, that's on heavily threaded benchmarks where all 8 cores of the AMD chip are able to shine. There are no games where AMD is actually ahead at stock clocks so clock speeds would be even more important there.