Question Any other way to reduce temps ?

[Blaketho]

As title says I'm trying to get temps a little lower. I've never under/overclocked in my life. When I built my PC they were out of 14700k so i went with the Intel i9-14900k.
I'm using an air cooler which i know swapping to AIO would potentially help a bit but ideally I'd like to avoid messing with the internals.

I have the core voltage offset at -0.05V. PL1 and PL2 (if i remember the terms right) are at 200W. Motherboard cooling setting is set to Air/Tower cooler. I have the motherboard turbo boost thing turned off. And recently because games are giving me issues with shader memory i have the active core ratio down to 58x and 55x according to an NVIDIA guide.

Is there anything else I can do to lower temps? Certain games are hitting thermal throttle. Most games actually run fine right around in the 60-70C range which I'm happy with for an air cooler on this thing. Problem is certain games that are more intensive case the throttling even with all the settings I have. Is there something I'm missing or am I just running a stupid CPU for my system? (I assume i should've just waited for a 14700k)

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

Is there anything else I can do to lower temps?

you don't mention the case you are using or how your system fans are setup.
the room's ambient temperature will also affect overall temps.

keep the room as cool as possible with adequate cool air intake and warm air exhaust for the case.

what temps are your GPU reaching @ idle and maxed in games?

certain games that are more intensive case the throttling

how are you observing and tracking this throttling?

include your complete system specs with the make & model of all components.

 

[Blaketho]

you don't mention the case you are using or how your system fans are setup.
the room's ambient temperature will also affect overall temps.

keep the room as cool as possible with adequate cool air intake and warm air exhaust for the case.

what temps are your GPU reaching @ idle and maxed in games?

how are you observing and tracking this throttling?

include your complete system specs with the make & model of all components.

Apologies for the lack of info.

Generally my rooms anywhere from 68-70F
The case is a Corsair 5000D airflow. Three 120 fans in front intake. 2 140 on top exhaust and a 120 back exhaust. Cpu cooler is noctua nhd15s with an extra 120 fan.
Msi 4090
Ram is Corsair ddr5 32gb 6200mhz i think, not at my pc now to verify for sure.
And Msi tomahawk motherboard


I’ve been using the intel xtu software to change setting as I go and monitor cpu temps and it has a throttling monitor. I haven’t watched you temps though I should probably pull those up too. I have Hardware Info so next time I’m using it I will pull it up for temps but I won’t be able to til tomorrow afternoon

Quick edit: also I have some motherboard fan curves set up but I can still increase fan rpm so maybe I could try that for higher cpu temps

 

[dingo07]

Unless you're blowing cold air into the case there's nothing else you can do without disabling features/changing voltage settings.
Get yourself a good 360 AIO

 

[Hotrod2go]

What tool are you using to measure temps?

 

[faalin]

First things first, update your BIOS. There is an issue with Intel CPU's calling for more power then they need and motherboard bios's were giving it to them.

There are new micro code updates in the bios to fix that and limit the motherboards from giving so much power. It will also keep your CPU from killing its self.

 

[Blaketho]

First things first, update your BIOS. There is an issue with Intel CPU's calling for more power then they need and motherboard bios's were giving it to them.

There are new micro code updates in the bios to fix that and limit the motherboards from giving so much power. It will also keep your CPU from killing its self.

This actually was most of my problem I think. Updated BIOS, reset my power settings and stuff and I think that definitely helped. I'm not going above 70 for a game that was thermal throttling me yesterday. Thanks for this tip I never would have thought of this. Still running spicy but this looks like it will keep things in reasonable limits

 

[faalin]

This actually was most of my problem I think. Updated BIOS, reset my power settings and stuff and I think that definitely helped. I'm not going above 70 for a game that was thermal throttling me yesterday. Thanks for this tip I never would have thought of this. Still running spicy but this looks like it will keep things in reasonable limits

Keep watching your motherboard manufactures webpage for BIOS updates. Once they figured out what was going on they put out a quick patch to fix things, there should be a few more in rapid succession to fully fix Intel's issue.

 

[geofelt]

14900K is designed to run at 100c.
It hits that temperature when the load uses all threads.
The processor monitors it's own temperature and will slow down if it detects a dangerous temperature.
That point is around 100c.
Motherboard makers initially made default settings that overclocked to get better performance ratings.
When it was discovered that this practice could damage the processors, a bios update resetting defaults to Intel specs was introduced.
You did well by updating the bios.
Temperature, by itself is not damaging.
It is excessive voltage causing high temperatures which is the problem.
Better cooling will not bring down the max temperature, but it will allow more work to be done.
The difference is not great and you may not want to bother.
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/intel-core-13900k-cooling-tested
For gamers:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFgswzTvyc

 

[Blaketho]

14900K is designed to run at 100c.
It hits that temperature when the load uses all threads.
The processor monitors it's own temperature and will slow down if it detects a dangerous temperature.
That point is around 100c.
Motherboard makers initially made default settings that overclocked to get better performance ratings.
When it was discovered that this practice could damage the processors, a bios update resetting defaults to Intel specs was introduced.
You did well by updating the bios.
Temperature, by itself is not damaging.
It is excessive voltage causing high temperatures which is the problem.
Better cooling will not bring down the max temperature, but it will allow more work to be done.
The difference is not great and you may not want to bother.
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/intel-core-13900k-cooling-tested
For gamers:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFgswzTvyc

Thanks for this, sounds like I'm not experiencing anything too crazy.
I did just try a new game and it was running around 85 on average from the sounds of that video and what you're saying thats not an issue?

 

[geofelt]

Sounds ok.
Just update your bios to currency and use the defaults.

 

[Blaketho]

Sounds ok.
Just update your bios to currency and use the defaults.

I have updated it, i may double check in case there was further updates. but currently i still have 200W PL1 PL2 limit and the motherboard boost thing disabled. still getting some throttle temps in a core here and there during the specific game thats runner higher than most. but it sounds like throttleing/hitting 95 ish for a second then going back to 85 isn't gonna cause damage