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Actually I wouldn't want a dual socket C2D setup for the same reason I don't want a 4x4, 2 CPU's = 2x the heat, 2x the heatsinks, 2x the power draw (speaking to CPU requirements only), but is it 2x the performance? I think not. I am of the liquid/TEC cooling variety, and a dual processor setup just creates way more headaches than it is worth, imo.

I think it that dual processor systems were a good idea 5 years ago when CPU 's weren't all that fast, but now that companies can get more than 1 core on a given piece of silicon the dual processor setup isn't as useful.

We see companies touting the ability to game, encode, and virus scan all at the same time, but in reality what they are saying is "our code isn't entirely optimized for multi-core architecture so we are telling you do do 100 things at once in order to justify your purchase."

You are looking forward to 8 cores, fine. However, what benefit is derived if the software is still lagging behind and working on dual core support? I would suspect that 4x4 will be an improvement, obviously, but also that AMD spent too much time on it and not enough time on improving its architecture.

I honestly don't believe 4x4 will be AMD's saving grace, but it will make for a cool marketing stunt just like quad-sli.
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So what you're sayign is that 2-socket wksta didn't catch on for the same reason?

I think not. The extra power is worth the extra power.

Just stop posting until you can pass first grade English.


WHat are you talking about? Very few of my sentences fail MS Word grammar checking.

That should read "What are you talking about? Very few of my sentences fail MS Word's grammar check."

You know, Firefox 2.0 has a spell check built in, might want to check that out, if not for clarity, then for your reputation... if you have one worth saving.
 
That should read "What are you talking about? Very few of my sentences fail MS Word's grammar check."
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The beauty of English is that grammatically correct means more than you could imagine.

Your life must be pretty sad to sit around grammar checking forum posts.
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That should read "What are you talking about? Very few of my sentences fail MS Word's grammar check."
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The beauty of English is that grammatically correct means more than you could imagine.

Your life must be pretty sad to sit around grammar checking forum posts.
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Actually my life is pretty awesome. You hold yourself out to be correct all the time and if that is true, wouldn't that mean that how you say it is also correct? Just something to ponder. I am actually doing an audit of a small family owned vineyard in California at the moment. I am also programming a webmail login site if you must know.

The mark of an intelligent person is an ability to communicate effectively, too bad you fail.
 
Nah, way too much bandwith for way too much $. If I got anything at all it would be a Pentium 4 as I am using Pentium 3 500 mhz to play AVP 2 and it kinda lags.
 
There have been x86 dual CPU boards around since the original Pentium 430 chipset boards IIRC. You could do dual CPU with normal desktop PIIs and PIIIs and not just the Xeons too. But even back then when you could do dual CPU with just two regular CPUs and a appropriate board there wasn't all that much of it. You had to pay more than twice the cost of a normal single-socket system to get two CPUs and the board for them. And today it's even worse as now you need more expensive server chips to do multi-socket SMP with.

Dual socket setups are nice, but they are much more expensive than a single-socket setup and that will naturally limit their popularity unless CPUs and boards become quite cheap and there's a real push towards massive threading by app makers. I don't see that happening, so multi-socket boards will be a high-end/industrial thing for some time yet.
 
That should read "What are you talking about? Very few of my sentences fail MS Word's grammar check."
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The beauty of English is that grammatically correct means more than you could imagine.

Your life must be pretty sad to sit around grammar checking forum posts.
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its not that hard, you skim a post and i can automatically detect most mistakes. Its not my fault i pay attention to what i read....BM, i trully do think you are funny and should never leave these forums...makes them so much more interesting...without your constant bashing i wouldn't care half as much for these forums.
 
Im just hoping that amd am2+ quad core cpu will work in my am2 board, I remember someone saying earlier that am2, am2+, am2++ would be compabitible, but you would loose some features. Im okay with that, but i would like to be able to encode battlestar galactica(the new, and as far as im concerned, now the only one), play freelancer, do a virus scan, and convert music to mp3. Thing is all i want to do in the near future is swap my dual core for a quad core, add 2 gigs, and a dx10 video card. im sure some of my more extreme buddys will be all over quadfx because of its future upgradability, but i like to keep it simple.
 
Beside that my wife thinks that i have the same computer form years ago, I just swap motherbaords, ive gone from a xp2500 to a athlon64 3200 to a athlon64 3800 to a x2-4200 , all that ive changed is the motherbaord, cpu, and once the psu. Theoretically, upgrading for quadfx would invilve a new psu,water cooling,new mobo, and thats to noticeible
 
Yes, I posted this back on page 3 or 4 in this thread because of an off the wall statement he made. I guess when one is grossly wrong there is no need to reply. :)
 
There have been x86 dual CPU boards around since the original Pentium 430 chipset boards IIRC. You could do dual CPU with normal desktop PIIs and PIIIs and not just the Xeons too. But even back then when you could do dual CPU with just two regular CPUs and a appropriate board there wasn't all that much of it. You had to pay more than twice the cost of a normal single-socket system to get two CPUs and the board for them. And today it's even worse as now you need more expensive server chips to do multi-socket SMP with.

Dual socket setups are nice, but they are much more expensive than a single-socket setup and that will naturally limit their popularity unless CPUs and boards become quite cheap and there's a real push towards massive threading by app makers. I don't see that happening, so multi-socket boards will be a high-end/industrial thing for some time yet.
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Intel did their part to make CPU ASPs drop like a rock and it's not "back then."
 
its not that hard, you skim a post and i can automatically detect most mistakes. Its not my fault i pay attention to what i read....BM, i trully do think you are funny and should never leave these forums...makes them so much more interesting...without your constant bashing i wouldn't care half as much for these forums.
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Since we're grammar correcting, how could you possibly detect any mistakes that somebody else skim's? :lol:
 
Everyone knows ECC is slower and more expensive and you don't need PCI-X to play FEAR.
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I'm just feeling argumentative...

ECC by itself isn't any slower. It's the buffered/registered stuff typically used in servers (which are naturally also ECC) that doesn't really shine until the CPU instruction queue depths skyrocket to levels that even the most heavily hammered desktops will never reach, and the fact that there's no such thing as "gamer ECC" so you aren't going to find ECC DDR2 advertised to run at 3-3-3-8 at 2.3V, etc.

PCI-X (and PCIe) are a necessary evolution. Peripheral device speeds have climbed quite a bit since PCI was conceived. Do ya' need it to play FEAR? Well, define "need". Hard to say, but as these games pile on the eye candy it surely does help to have the bandwidth available to get scenes and textures off the hard drive and into the video card without stuttering.

-Brad
 
what kindof cookies you got on the darkside?
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Chocolate chip with pecans.... but I am open to other suggestions. We are actively recruiting. Apply at www.darthvaderisgod.com 8O

thats the perfect darkside cookie,pecans have a bitter dry after taste. 😛

I missed that post.

Beautiful description. FYI: I am the founder of the Alpha Gamma chapter of the Darkside. I am a direct descendant of Darth Vader. He had a one night stand with my grandma, and the rest is history. Take it as you will, but there is a personality test as part of the recruiting process.
 
You can, stop acting like you know everything
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I only act like that about C# and .Net but even then I admit when I don't know. This forum doesn't work like that. It's a place where opinions and conjecture can rule with no one losing busines or money ( no one has to follow my SUGGESTIONS for PC purchases).

I hate having to be right. I have to be right everytime I start a programming project.

This is my break. I like AMD. Get over it.

Fail.
 
i grew up on a farm,so i have had my fill of all kinds;a good dog is hard to find,and hard to keep.but he is loyal.i try to keep him spoiled for his loyalty. :wink: so does my family.
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I bet your dog is smarter than BaronBS and its ass is more beautifull than him.

Wait, you noticed that I'm being a comedian sometimes?
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Don't worry about that, BaronBS. Everybody knows that you are our forum clown.

Maybe there's hope for you yet.
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Too bad, there are no hopes for you.
 
its not that hard, you skim a post and i can automatically detect most mistakes. Its not my fault i pay attention to what i read....BM, i trully do think you are funny and should never leave these forums...makes them so much more interesting...without your constant bashing i wouldn't care half as much for these forums.
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Since we're grammar correcting, how could you possibly detect any mistakes that somebody else skim's? :lol:

that was said purposely because i didn't want to say that bm could do that...did come out wrong though. But the fact that you posted that proves my whole point so thank you.
 
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