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[citation][nom]sacre[/nom]After seeing a picture of the Galaxy phone right beside the iphone, I don't entirely blame them for sueing. The Galaxy phone is a direct replica. Square homescreen buttons, a bottom bar, even the model of the phone is the same...I mean holy *** its just a direct exact ripoff.[/citation]

Lol, I take it you saw one of the many photoshopped pictures that apple has submitted as "evidence". That Samsung copied them. News flash. They are fake
 
"We've got some really cool ideas, some very ambitious plans in this area," Cook revealed.To get cool ideas Apple's way
1). Think of no cool ideas
2). See what other people are doing
3). Take their ideas and add a little twist to call it original
4). Patent said non innovative/inventive idea/product
5). Make Apple users hip
6). Make non innovative/inventive idea/product a hit
7). Get everybody to think its your original idea/product
8). Then sue everybody for said non innovative/inventive idea/product
9). Then whine and complain to media
10). Get people to still think your innovative

pure genius

When do they every have really cool ideas anyways?
 
[citation][nom]sacre[/nom]After seeing a picture of the Galaxy phone right beside the iphone, I don't entirely blame them for sueing. The Galaxy phone is a direct replica. Square homescreen buttons, a bottom bar, even the model of the phone is the same...I mean holy shit its just a direct exact ripoff. If you created the first device to have this look which turned out to be a highly loved look, back in 2007.. then your rival does the EXACT same thing to take customers.. you'd be pissed too.Samsung is just being the "China" to Apple products - copying the same design but calling it samsung instead of apple.Makes ya wonder. Why couldn't they just put their heads together and create a different menu? instead of saying "If it works for apple, we'll do it"... jee man.[/citation]

I saw a picture like you described. I then saw the real phone in my hand and noticed how the phone in the picture didn't look like the phone in my hand. It was a doctored picture. I do blame them for suing. They made doctored photos to back their lies and that shouldn't go unpunished.
 
[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]Don't bother saying any positive about Apple the Andrdoid fanboys will swoop in and thumb you down..lol[/citation]

He/she didn't say something positive about Apple in the post that you replied to.

[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]That's why Samsung just lost a billion dollarsfor copying Apple ideas..lol[/citation]

Samsung didn't lose a billion dollars, they lost part of an ongoing lawsuit. That billion dollars hasn't actually gone anywhere yet and probably won't go to Apple anyway. Besides, the USA is one of the few places where Apple is winning. Most of the rest of the globe isn't supporting Apple's bullshit and even then, the USA litigation has been covered by screwup after screwup both in and out of the courtrooms.
 
They steer away from simplicity. We think the customer wants all the clutter removed."
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IE we don't think our customers are smart enough to know how to customize their os.

Apple os is designed around stupid, and there are a LOT of stupid people out there.

apple's patents are based on borrowed tech from futuristic movies. Tablets - Star Trek, Pinch to zoom and rotate - Minority Report.

What has apple actually patented? rectangle with round edges ... thats too generic and should have never been allowed.

only reason apple won the patent lawsuit in the US was the idiot they had on the jury convincing everyone from his previous lawsuit experience - something your not supposed to do, bring in outside cases, thats for the lawyers not the jury.
 
What the hell do you do with 2 million a month goddammit??!?!?!?!?! How many cars can you buy?! How many houses!?!? You don't actually take any of this shit with you to heaven! (or hell, where these fellows are heading...)
 
[citation][nom]anon32472487[/nom]What the hell do you do with 2 million a month goddammit??!?!?!?!?! How many cars can you buy?! How many houses!?!? You don't actually take any of this shit with you to heaven! (or hell, where these fellows are heading...)[/citation]
I was thinking the same thing. Id keep working for $2M a month.

p.s. as for samsung paying apple the $1B, its going to get lowered as samsung is going after the patents themselves. Bounce back is already been thrown out, looks like pinch-to-zoom and other multitouch are next. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Steve-Jobs-Patent-USPTO-multitouch-7479949,19657.html
 
[citation][nom]noob2222[/nom]IE we don't think our customers are smart enough to know how to customize their os.Apple os is designed around stupid, and there are a LOT of stupid people out there.apple's patents are based on borrowed tech from futuristic movies. Tablets - Star Trek, Pinch to zoom and rotate - Minority Report. What has apple actually patented? rectangle with round edges ... thats too generic and should have never been allowed.only reason apple won the patent lawsuit in the US was the idiot they had on the jury convincing everyone from his previous lawsuit experience - something your not supposed to do, bring in outside cases, thats for the lawyers not the jury.[/citation]
While I like the customization that I've done with my S3 it took time. If I hadn't done it the phone would be cumbersome for me to use with features that...well, it'd just be cumbersome to use, trust me. Sorry, that's just true. Do you really believe everyone should want to customize their PHONE so that its not cumbersome (stock)? ...or were you just trolling? Why is it so hard to believe that some folks don't want to add widgets, change fonts, switch keyboards, create folders, etc. What? If you don't want to do that you're stupid, is that it? I'm sorry, I'm just neutral in this whole Android vs. iOS thing. I can see the value in each...clear as day. I do think Apple has brought some things to the table, I appreciate the visual quality of what they call the retina display. However, Samsung is making handsets that I prefer right now and I'm looking forward to the Note3 and S4.
 
[citation][nom]halcyon[/nom]While I love the customization that I've done with my S3 it took time. If I hadn't done it the phone woul be cumbersome for me to use. Sorry, that's just true. Do you really believe everyone should want to customize their PHONE so that its not cumbersome (stock)? ...or were you just trolling?[/citation]

sure, with some devices the pre-configured setup may not be for everyone, but at least you have the option to change it if you want. What can you change on the Iphone?
 
[citation][nom]noob2222[/nom]sure, with some devices the pre-configured setup may not be for everyone, but at least you have the option to change it if you want. What can you change on the Iphone?[/citation]I see your point, however.... On the iphone you can group the icons, create folders, move icons to the dock, change backgrounds, etc. A lot of people have no more desires outside of that so they choose that simplicity. I understand that some may feel that's too limiting but that doesn't mean everyone feels that way. My 70+ parents have plenty on their plates with just that. I really did try to get my stepfather to move from an iPhone 5 (that he surprised me with) to the S3 but my S3 didn't look as simple as his iPhone 5 and that was intimidating to him. I really tried to sell the larger screen and customizations I could help him with to make it work even better than his iPhone but he wasn't interested. Frustrated me a bit but hey. I had to show him how to use his iPhone and he struggled with that, so me thinking is that his plate is full and he doesn't need JellyBeans for desert. Perhaps he's the exception and everyone else really wants Android and they just don't know it yet.

Everyone is not a 16-50something that has the passion for technology that some of us share. I wonder how many 50+ folks there are out there with Note II's sling'n widgets?
 
"Andoird: it has enough options to make you forget that they all suck" - an actual defense of Android itt
 
[citation][nom]Xperia the zorro of bad phone deux[/nom]"Andoird: it has enough options to make you forget that they all suck" - an actual defense of Android itt[/citation]
Wrong. Just simply incorrect. Nothing wrong with having the ability to make your phone unique to your needs if that floats your boat as it does mine.
 
"if you think about android, it's more like the windows PC model.

You mean successful. Like the kind of success that Apple's imac enjoys...... 250,000 units a month compared to about 20 million computers (includes Apple) sold per month. Macbook does sell well, about 800,000 /month.

Cook would be well served to pretend that the PC industry doesn't exist... almost like Apple's market share.

How do guys get to that level when they speak such nonsense.
 
[citation][nom]rantoc[/nom]You mean Samsung lost in the US during some very shady court sessions while remarkably most other courts had Apple thrown out. Even more funny is that the patents didn't involve real technology but rather generic design patents. So TunaSoda is right you know - Apple only glue others existing techs together in a shiny case with a walled in software echo system and then sells it for a premium to the tech impaired.[/citation]
Perfect 😀
 
I work with hundreds of people here in my company, I'd say possibly 90% of them have iphones, and all of them are totally floored when I show them my Samsung Note II 😀
I'm sure iPhone 8 will have all the same features my note has now... 😉
 
[citation][nom]tolham[/nom]--"It is awkward. I hate litigation. I absolutely hate it."then stop suing everyone.--If you think about Android..... I think we know the kind of customer experience that produces.yeah, the kind that outsells yours. lol.[/citation]


Considering Apple makes more profit then the entire Android manufacturers combined from their Android products, they don't need to lead in sales, especially when Android sales are split among 10 different manufacturers (in China like 20).

He said he doesn't like litigation, but he also doesn't like companies not coming up with their own ideas. If you noticed he was able to settle with HTC, but given no room for settlement he'll let the lawsuits that started before him continue and would probably start new ones too. This seems consistent with his principals and is not hypocritical.

I don't like steamed vegetables, but when I get served certain meals I eat them, sometimes you have to do stuff you don't like because you're left with no alternatives. As CEO he has certain responsibilities to his shareholders and his company as a whole.
 
Interesting, Apple's marketing over the past year continues with a thready of fear, Perhaps this is why it does so well in the US market? I chose the Galaxy SIII because it has options and features, why should complexity make me scared? After gettingthe device I found LOTS of features, it was like a jackpot of innovation!
 
[citation][nom]TunaSoda[/nom]I work with hundreds of people here in my company, I'd say possibly 90% of them have iphones, and all of them are totally floored when I show them my Samsung Note II I'm sure iPhone 8 will have all the same features my note has now...[/citation]
I also have the note 2 but what I really want to know is what kind of company has a 90% iphone ratio? What are the odds of that many tech deficient people under 1 roof. Worldwide ratio is probable 20-30%

It is odd how the note 2 draws a crowd. 5 inch will soon be the norm.

@duncanmoo.. My wife used to have an iphone 4 so I am quite familiar with ios. Android is jam packed full of features that ios doesn't have. I am not sure if the iphone 5 can multitask as everytime I ask an iphone user, they don't know the answer. That might speak volumes.
 
[citation][nom]duncanmoo[/nom]Interesting, Apple's marketing over the past year continues with a thready of fear, Perhaps this is why it does so well in the US market? I chose the Galaxy SIII because it has options and features, why should complexity make me scared? After gettingthe device I found LOTS of features, it was like a jackpot of innovation![/citation]
...because you valued that complexity. ...but some don't. They want ease-of-use and simplicity. There are A LOT of folks like that. ...and Apple caters to them, they always have. I love the iPad, its consistent high-quality (no dead pixels, scratches out of the box, etc.) but yes its expensive. Yes, the iPhone needs work (a lot of it). iOS needs to evolve (really!) but the iPad hardware is still a trend-setter. The iPhone 5...not so much (if Apple keeps that up they'll be in trouble). Give me a Gorilla glassed (front and back) 5" iPhone with a quick quad core and a corrected OS (that allows more customization) and I may bite. Until them, Samsung has my $$$.
 
[citation][nom]keither5150[/nom]I also have the note 2 but what I really want to know is what kind of company has a 90% iphone ratio? What are the odds of that many tech deficient people under 1 roof. Worldwide ratio is probable 20-30%It is odd how the note 2 draws a crowd. 5 inch will soon be the norm.@duncanmoo.. My wife used to have an iphone 4 so I am quite familiar with ios. Android is jam packed full of features that ios doesn't have. I am not sure if the iphone 5 can multitask as everytime I ask an iphone user, they don't know the answer. That might speak volumes.[/citation]
I won't mention the name, but we provide a lot of stuff that works with apple products...
 
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