Well Halcyon, I'm not arguing with your statement, just explaining why I feel like I do about apple. Bullies never messed with me growing up, but I still didnt like them because they were bullies. Thats kinda how I feel about apple. I understand they havent done anything that has negatively affected you and thats good for you. I see how they bully around other companies and it bothers me. I see how they adapt their marketing strategies to get as much much money out of their customers, which is fine, thats buisness, but I dont like it. I especially didnt like when the Iphone 4 came out with antenna problems and Steve Jobs himself came out and flat denied there was any problem until the world lashed back at him and he was forced to do something about it. (It kinda felt like he didnt want to have to own up to any mistakes that might cost the company money to fix) I used to mostly dislike Steve Jobs for his Hubris issues, but apparently that spread to his company also.