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[citation][nom]njalterio[/nom]Considering the average computer costs around $500 (and this is really all that most people need), this makes sense, but has nothing to do with total market share and profit. In case you haven't noticed, Toyota makes more money than Aston Martin.Also a part of the article you posted:The Macolypse Hits AppleFrom about November 2008 to April 2009, Mac year-over-year US retail sales declined, even as Windows PCs dramatically gained. There was kind of a numbers reversal, following the late-September stock market crash. For example, in October 2008, following release of new aluminum, unibody laptops, US retail Mac revenue grew 25.5 percent, while Windows PC sales fell 4.2 percent, according to NPD. By January 2009, Mac retail revenue was down 10.4 percent from a year earlier and Windows PC revenue was flat.Apple isn't doing as well as you would like to think.Anyways, you were saying most consumers are willing to pay for an expensive Mac: The market share reports says that you are dead wrong, and I caught you trying to fib information. No matter what way you try to spin it, Apple is too expensive and most consumers think so as well. If Apple wants to sell more laptops, including expensive LED screens is the wrong way to go.[/citation]
Huh? Where was I trying to fib information? I said Apple's market share has been growing year on year for a while now. Looking at the tables you linked, Apple's market share was 5.42% in May 2009 compared to 4.73% in May 2008 and 3.77% in May 2007. I never said that most consumers are willing to pay for an expensive Mac. I'm saying that people who are thinking of buying a Mac are more likely to be willing to pay more. That growth in market share has to come from somewhere so one could say that some users who were considering Dells etc were willing to buy Apples instead. Since the average Apple costs more than the average Dell, obviously some people are willing to spend more on Apples. How can Apple not be "doing as well as would like to think" when Apple's profits per year have been going up pretty quickly since 2005: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Apple+profits+per+quarter.
Profits per quarter:
2009 Q4 $1.67 billion
2009 Q3 $1.23 billion
2009 Q2 $1.21 billion
2009 Q1 $1.61 billion
2008 Q4 $1.14 billion
2008 Q3 $1.07 billion
2008 Q2 $1.05 billion
2008 Q1 $1.58 billion
2007 Q4 $0.904 billion
2007 Q3 $0.818 billion
2007 Q2 $0.770 billion
2007 Q1 $1.00 billion
2006 Q4 $0.546 billion
2006 Q3 $0.472 billion
2006 Q2 $0.410 billion
2006 Q1 $0.565 billion
So considering Apple has increased its quarterly profits year on year for three years in a row there (more than tripling over three years for this last quarter) and has increased its yearly profits there for three years in a row (both stats are longer but I couldn't be bothered to go back further), it hardly looks like Apple isn't doing that well.
Apple's apparently doing just fine with its business plan. Most existing Mac users will be willing to pay for new Macs when they come to upgrade and it seems that there are a fair number of people willing to switch to Macs over PCs as well.
This is all getting way off the point though anyway. The iMacs are great value for the high quality hardware inside them. If you don't think the extra money is worth the higher quality of the components then that's your call. Personally, if i were in the market for a new machine, I'd consider these iMacs a great deal and would love and relish the display.
Huh? Where was I trying to fib information? I said Apple's market share has been growing year on year for a while now. Looking at the tables you linked, Apple's market share was 5.42% in May 2009 compared to 4.73% in May 2008 and 3.77% in May 2007. I never said that most consumers are willing to pay for an expensive Mac. I'm saying that people who are thinking of buying a Mac are more likely to be willing to pay more. That growth in market share has to come from somewhere so one could say that some users who were considering Dells etc were willing to buy Apples instead. Since the average Apple costs more than the average Dell, obviously some people are willing to spend more on Apples. How can Apple not be "doing as well as would like to think" when Apple's profits per year have been going up pretty quickly since 2005: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Apple+profits+per+quarter.
Profits per quarter:
2009 Q4 $1.67 billion
2009 Q3 $1.23 billion
2009 Q2 $1.21 billion
2009 Q1 $1.61 billion
2008 Q4 $1.14 billion
2008 Q3 $1.07 billion
2008 Q2 $1.05 billion
2008 Q1 $1.58 billion
2007 Q4 $0.904 billion
2007 Q3 $0.818 billion
2007 Q2 $0.770 billion
2007 Q1 $1.00 billion
2006 Q4 $0.546 billion
2006 Q3 $0.472 billion
2006 Q2 $0.410 billion
2006 Q1 $0.565 billion
So considering Apple has increased its quarterly profits year on year for three years in a row there (more than tripling over three years for this last quarter) and has increased its yearly profits there for three years in a row (both stats are longer but I couldn't be bothered to go back further), it hardly looks like Apple isn't doing that well.
Apple's apparently doing just fine with its business plan. Most existing Mac users will be willing to pay for new Macs when they come to upgrade and it seems that there are a fair number of people willing to switch to Macs over PCs as well.
This is all getting way off the point though anyway. The iMacs are great value for the high quality hardware inside them. If you don't think the extra money is worth the higher quality of the components then that's your call. Personally, if i were in the market for a new machine, I'd consider these iMacs a great deal and would love and relish the display.