Apple iPhone 4S, Part 1: More Horsepower, Better Hardware

amk-aka-Phantom · Oct 16, 2011

"Leaving competition in the dust"? Where's HTC Sensation? Where are the SGS's? Lame comparison.

in_the_loop · Oct 16, 2011

[citation][nom]AbdullahG[/nom]I have yet to find someone how thinks the 4S is revolutionary. Innovative, yes, but not revolutionary. And people think iOS5 has new features which Android had simply because people are more aware of the iPhone rather than Android phones. Living in NY, there are a lot of busy routes. One such route which is commonly used to get to Manhattan has a huge billboard advertising the iPhone. Remember, these routes are full of busy people getting to work and so on. The iPhone is going to look appealing to such people. Why? Because they make of majority of the market for smartphones.[/citation]

Android is, by far, the market leader for smartphones.
http://h30565.www3.hp.com/t5/Mobility-Matters/Android-market-share-grows-again-in-August-iPhone-flat/ba-p/441

Think it passed the ios over a year ago! And people (mostly Apple fanboys) still think that they lead the market?

halcyon · Oct 16, 2011

Of course Android is the market leader. There's lots and lots of different Android phone makers. ...only one Apple making iPhones. I just don't see why its so important to people. Apple seems to be doing well and the Android fans seem happy with their "superior" handsets.

amk-aka-Phantom · Oct 16, 2011

halcyon :

Fixed.

Guest · Oct 16, 2011

My iphone 4 doesent have stereo speakers. Does this one has it?

JackNaylorPE · Oct 16, 2011

Regarding the article .... one question .... does it make phone calls ? It is after all a phone. Thought ya mighta covered that in "Part 1".

As far as Apple's success, it falls to two things....1) users rarely need TS, everything just "works" and 2) when they need it, what they get is incomparable. Compare that w/ the recent article on LG's Android phone where the user had to wipe his contacts, apps, pictures and everything else .... then use his phone for three days so LG could confirm it was something on his phone causing the problem before would agree to address his issue.

Onus · Oct 16, 2011

I come to Tom's Hardware to read about PCs and their components; stuff you can buy, build, and tweak yourself, peacemeal; and all kinds of related comparisons, news, and reviews. I enjoy reading and contributing to the forums. I don't come here to read about phones. Yes, I could have skipped this entirely; the point is that this is not the sort of LEAD story I expect on this site. Just my opinion, although I believe it is shared. Thanks for listening.

Guest · Oct 16, 2011

Wow! Apple they have effective marketing strat. Iphone fever won't last long people catching up, BS! advertising. When is going to end Iphone100. I love apple products. I feel getting rip off every year. LOL!

amk-aka-Phantom · Oct 16, 2011

Onus :

Oh, it IS shared, trust me.

del35 · Oct 16, 2011

Compare the iPhone using the same bench marks to the Galaxy S ll and we will see really how good the iPhone 4s is with its meager 512 megs or ram. Again this whole thing is a joke.

del35 · Oct 16, 2011

so toms is doing a 2 part on this and not Bulldozer?

I guess iPhone 4s is a real important contribution to technology. LOL ;-)

iCrap just began using dual core processors in their smart phones...Jeez
what an innovative idea only a genius could have thought of that. Soon they will be inventing the use of 1 gig of ram in smart phones, not to mention larger screens. You cant make this up!!!

Guest · Oct 16, 2011

Some one try to find out, what kind of DSP processor it has. It sounds like powerhouse, but noone seems to care, as its not so much graphics related.

halcyon · Oct 16, 2011

It doesn't matter how good or bad the iPhone is for the majority of THG's forum members. The fact that its made by Apple makes it a POS for many. Such objectivity.

flip_x · Oct 16, 2011

Heres something for all the apple haters! benchmarks with the latest androids!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...laxy-s-ii-is-getting-smoked-for-now-at-least/

flip_x · Oct 16, 2011

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/10/11/iphone-4s-vs-android-benchmarks-posted-even-the-galaxy-s-ii-is-getting-smoked-for-now-at-least/

halcyon · Oct 16, 2011

[citation][nom]flip_x[/nom]http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/ [...] -at-least/[/citation]
"This can't be right...the testing is rigged...it has to be. Surely, if they'd don't it correctly the iPhones would be in last place."

LOL.

legacy7955 · Oct 16, 2011

Apple is Marketing over what matters

zeromikey · Oct 16, 2011

i hate apple (have iphone4) ONLY due to their genius marketing strategy of releasing basically updates as NEW phones. this isn't revolutionary neither were the last (insert random high value here) iPhone updates they have released. Such a brilliant scam they are running there in apple.

cangelini · Oct 16, 2011

[citation][nom]tacoslave[/nom]so toms is doing a 2 part on this and not Bulldozer?[/citation]

I dedicated one week, 12,000 words, and 24 pages to Bulldozer. Our 990FX motherboard round-up is coming up, and we'll have at least one additional story on the architecture's efficiency. Try not to too twisted over one day spent with the iPhone ;-)

cangelini · Oct 16, 2011

[citation][nom]Device Unknown[/nom]man oh man, I woke up this morning, sat down with my normal cup of coffee, sat down in my nice recliner and opened Tomshardware.com and when I seen the title "Apple4S" I about spilled my coffee. First thought was "oh boy, shit gunna hit the fan now!" aaand it did lol. To be honest I didn't read the article at all. I like most of Toms readers could give 2 shits about Apple products.As far as the guy who said "I don't know about you but I also think it is amazing that a year later any iPhone can hold its value much better then its competing Android counterpart. When I purchased my Nexus S it wasn't to bad, but a couple months later and a huge chunk of the value was lost. Whether you like it or not the iPhone can hold its value due to the large demand. " DUHHH when you pay out the friggin ass for something do you really want to sell it at such a huge loss? So like I pay 800 bucks for a iPhone, have it 3 days, despise it and try to sell it for as much as I can to recoup the extreme cost of such a piece of crap. And since most Apple users are ignorant, they will be happy to pay almost new price for a used hunk of crap. hence they "reatain value"[/citation]

This is an extra bit of weekend content that doesn't affect our normal operations. The usual PC-oriented content resumes tonight at 9 PM PST.

amk-aka-Phantom · Oct 16, 2011

halcyon :

Also the fact that it still has the same enraging design, no HDMI, no USB-on-the-Go... if I buy an expensive toy, I want it to have ALL the bells and whistles available, not just some.

Well, and yes, if there's something that's not made by crApple and has the same functionality, I'd go for that rather than Apple.

amk-aka-Phantom · Oct 16, 2011

cangelini :

Glad to hear it, but there's really too much phone/console/tablet/unrelated stuff on this website lately; and the excuse of "It's on Tom's Guide" doesn't work anymore - this is Tom's Hardware

cangelini · Oct 16, 2011

And have we missed a beat on PC tech? ;-)

amk-aka-Phantom · Oct 17, 2011

cangelini :

Sure. Take a look at this thread.

While I'm really happy with the PC hardware articles lately (BD article was great, SSD article arrived exactly when I wanted to read one, etc.), there's still a ton of article suggestions that everybody will welcome much more than the same old iPhone vs Android holywar-starters. LCD roundup? Cases roundup? Server hardware roundup, and written in such a manner that a gamer can learn something from it?

So, you see, Tom's hasn't really missed anything... but it's the equivalent of me building a computer for the client and "not missing anything": the machine boots, works fine, everything is running, client is happy. However, the cables are a mess, the components I chose were not the best for money... get the analogy?

I think that every PC enthusiast here will rejoice if the website's resources will be allocated more towards the in-depth PC hardware comparison.

I understand that - for some incomprehensible reason - Tom's needs these tablet/phone/etc. articles, but could you at least kick them ALL out to Tom's Guide and add a little option in every user's profile: "Display Tom's Guide News on the main page news feed - Yes/No"? That way, everyone who truly doesn't want to hear about anything besides PC hardware can be happy, and whoever wants to read about cell phones and consoles can keep doing so.

Oh yeah! :sol:

cangelini · Oct 17, 2011

I have an LCD story in the system ready to go, we have a case round-up that'll be live in a couple of weeks, and the rest of the beats are firing on all cylinders

Here's the thing: Guide tackles the consumer angle. Rachel and her team aren't as concerned with benchmarks, display uniformity, Wi-Fi performance, and so on; they write about the user experience. So, we decided to add more portable device coverage to the existing content we produce, with all of the Hardware-style testing typical of our other stories.

Again, normally on the weekend, the site would be idle as we all recover from one hell of a Bulldozer-filled week. Yesterday's iPhone piece was "bonus." It really shouldn't bother anyone that much ;-)

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