Apple Unveils 4G iPad with Retina Display, Quad-core Graphics

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[citation][nom]omega21xx[/nom]The big advantage to having the choice of SD cards is you can usually get a 32gb SD for around 30-40 depending on the company and class rating. This is compared to almost an extra $100 for every teired storage upgrade for an iPad or other device without SD expansion. At best, the next teir up gives you an extra 32GB for $100 (32GB compared to 64GB). Worst case you are spending an extra $100 for a move from 8GB to 16GB (or 16GB to 32GB) which is just unreasonable and really just added profit for the company with little return for the consumer.[/citation]

Great point, and I understand that from a value perspective. Again, it all depends on requirements. Personally I do not like having to keep up with sdcards. Hell, I don't even have a reader in my PC. They are extremely easy to loose and misplace. I travel allot and fly all the time for work. The idea of storing and labeling SDcards and having them in my pocket or laptop bag to dig for just to access data that I want to use or need is not an appealing thing for me. I watch a movie once or twice and then it is on the shelf or off my device. Music, I use playlists to organize and listen to the stuff that I like. PDF documents don't take up enough space to fill 64Gb by themselves and neither do ebooks from Amazon or iBooks nor do the apps that I use. Pictures however use plenty of storage but I don't just sit and thumb threw them all the time so I don't need all of them.

Again, it all depends how you use your device. I have a friend that use to store every track he owned on his iPod's and when he filled it up he just bought another one. He was the only person I ever met that did that. Personally, I store my stuff on a NAS with raid 5 and mount the volume on my PC and point iTunes to it. That is my solution for mass storage. Then when I know that I am going to be away I put the stuff that I need on there and go. Since I do not watch allot of movies on these types of devices 9 times out of 10 with 32-64Gb of built in storage I would have what I need already there.

Since an SDcard is not important to me for the things I need or want to do it plays no part in my purchasing decision. There are many other features and capabilities that I value much more than a SDcard reader.

I work hard for my money and I do a ton of homework before I make a purchasing decision. I like the Transformer Prime. I personally think it is a nice device that is quality built and from one of my favorite manufacturers (I only use ASUS motherboards for my PC builds) but it is a device that is meant to be used horizontally which is great for movies and games. I personally like to use my devices vertically for the stuff that I do. Both can be used both ways but since the Transformer Prime's screen layout and camera position is designed that way it makes it a little awkward. Nice device though and quality built but while the hardware for the most part meets my needs the software falls wayyyyy short. Now if they decided to use Windows 8 or something on it I would take another look. Metro from my experience is a horizontal dashboard and works pretty good. If MS gets the virtual keyboard right and keeps the resource utilization in check it should be solid.

Again, companies are in business to make a profit. That is how they grow. If you had a company and you designed a device, services, support, and complimentary devices and spent crazy amounts of R&D dollars developing and testing it, you will set a price that you think you can sell the unit for and make a profit. If that device just goes gangbusters and no one else even challenges it, would you lower the price? Probably not. You have to justify what you require for the money you spend yourself. In your case you value the SDCard reader in my case I value the business features, the applications, the screen and the support.

 

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ap3x after reading all that.. it really seems your trying to make excuses for the ipads short comings. to justify what? i dont know.. you kinda side step each point people make and start down your own road on a point that has little to nothing to do with what was said. I still dont see how being so limited is a good thing in anyway. not only would you get a better product with a android tab but you also have more options for a bit less money in fact so i fail to see any downside. i agree with the asus motherboards deal but they have nice pro board with options out the rear for really not that much more then others pro lines. And in my exp great track records. though in your end statement if you value that stuff you should be sporting a blackberry. but then you would have to add security. Im not trying to bash im just saying it how i see it.. My points were valid like i said the ipad has nice specs its just not worth the money when i can get more from somewhere else for half in most cases.

 

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[citation][nom]enforcer22[/nom]ap3x after reading all that.. it really seems your trying to make excuses for the ipads short comings. to justify what? i dont know.. you kinda side step each point people make and start down your own road on a point that has little to nothing to do with what was said. I still dont see how being so limited is a good thing in anyway. not only would you get a better product with a android tab but you also have more options for a bit less money in fact so i fail to see any downside. i agree with the asus motherboards deal but they have nice pro board with options out the rear for really not that much more then others pro lines. And in my exp great track records. though in your end statement if you value that stuff you should be sporting a blackberry. but then you would have to add security. Im not trying to bash im just saying it how i see it.. My points were valid like i said the ipad has nice specs its just not worth the money when i can get more from somewhere else for half in most cases.[/citation]

What you perceive to be shortcomings are based on what you think is valuable. How can you even think about arguing that? That is my point. It depends on your requirements. I am not knocking anything you guys are saying simply because you find those features valuable and I don't. I personally feel that the iPad is a superior device for the features that I value and it appears that I am not alone.

Your comment about Blackberry is completely off. Blackberries don't contain the applications that I require which I clearly stated in my post, it also does not handle documents well at all, which I also clearly stated in my post. Most companies are moving away from the Blackberries because of the BES licensing so having native and direct support for Exchange is ideal which everyone has except for Blackberry.

Don't try to invalidate what I am saying just because like to have a freaken SDcard like somehow that feature makes your preferred solution an iPad killer. There are other qualities about these devices that make them valuable as well. I don't personally use SDcards, I have onboard storage that meets my storage requirements and I have a 50gig dropbox account.

If you look at my posts I never invalidate your points, I just make counter points based on my experience with both devices do describe why I feel the iPad is overall a superior solution. If you don't agree with it fine, I could frankly care less but I am not going to knock you for feeling the way you do nor am I going to sit here and say that all people that think the way you do are uninformed or nontechnical fanboy’s.

I don't have to make excuses for iPads shortcomings when it by far has completely dominated the market with no threats in site. Clearly is making up for the lack of some minor features you guys value with other things. I don't pretend like you Droids out there that iPad or any device is going to be all things to all people. The truth is none of these devices are. That is why you have to figure out what you want out of these devices and determine for yourself if it is worth 3-4-5-6-6-7-899.00 for these things. None of them are cheap and none of them are a necessity.

Just by you mentioning the Blackberry show you have a clear lack of understanding of the features and capabilities of anything outside of your preferred device. If you did you would know that based on the requirements that I stated that Blackberry would not fit the bill.

Like I said before, I have used several Android devices; the only one that came close to being on the iPad’s level was the Transformer Prime. I went with the iPad not because of the hardware but because of the software. Period end of discussion. SDCard means absolutely nothing to me although I understand and respect your points of views on it. It does offer cheaper storage options albeit with slightly less convenient than more integrated approaches. If that is what you want, go buy the solution that has it.

 

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i actually dont really care for android at all.. I preffer BB. the playbook now that it runs all the android apps i suppose thats a good thing is pretty much what i think im looking for.my point before wasnt more then apple vs android.. android gives teh same and more options for less i just dont see how thats bad. they might be the best selling pad on the market but my point was i just dont see why.. most all other options offer way more for alot of times far less. on the software side i just dont see what an ipad has over any other device. the office programs on everything really fall short of office mobile that runs on the windows phones.. but on the built in storage note.. its basicly like getting a 64gb pad and putting a 64gb card in it making it a 128gig pad and you dont ever have to take the card out. i just dont want to have to download my stuff from a website and eat up that awsome 2 gigs of bandwidth that gets sucked up by turning the thing on :/ like i said i could care less for apple or android honestly. i picked anrdoid becuase it gave more for less if apple did that i would pick them. i dont think they are moving away from bb because of the bes licences. they just arent as populer as before and thier service messed up a couple times for to long. companys just dont have the confadence in rim they use to. but for security and imo some of the more sexy looking curves on a phone (lol) i havent seen anything really match a storm or a bold yet. and i love the email and bb messenger way way more then on any android i have owned.. curently i have a droid razr but im really thinking of moving back to bb.