Are Intel joking re: i3 pricing?

[sighQ2]

what is your problem that was a joke and a title on the Tom's Hardware home page

learn to end your insulting for a while and take a joke and just chill, we don't have to talk about processors, in case you didn't notice every once in a while we members take a break from CPUs and joke around even AMD fanboys like you. even jennyh, jimmy and badtrip got along before she got banned and even more bitter

When I want you to tell me what to do, I will tell you what to do; and also give you detailed instructions on how to speak to people with a sense of respect for intelligence and experience. However, there are exceptions; such as times when people do not qualify for respect for having intelligence; such as those times when apparently intelligence left town, or moved on to some distant kingdom on the other side. Even experience can help compensate; but that involves being in the moment, and living, in order for a genuine experience to even be noticed; which, in itself, would constitute an earthshattering experience for some people.

Which brings the thought, beyond that, that your comments would be better directed, and more helpful to the community generally, if they were directed to charley bogus; although I doubt that that would be effective since experience is a completely foreign concept to him. (But he will get this message - and how do I know that)? Well, just wait and see; grinning.

i think much of it is mere replication of trained parrot syndrome; which is twice removed imitation; which, in itself, is known, to some, as a very low form of insanity, subtle as that might be; and yet it is alarmingly common.

 

[sighQ2]

shut up you are getting more and more annoying yourself

like i said i remember when you could have a good laugh with people you argued heavily with

now you and sighQueer constantly say things like spintel, bannatek and other crap like that and say we are the idiots. Talk about hypocrisy

oic, and that's fun, huh?

and this is the edited version.

ever heard of abuse? - the problem w abuse, is when you abuse someone, you abuse yourself - having fun yet?
in order to do it, you have to first identify with the victim role. psych 101 or maybe 210/ whatever.

i don't know baanaatek and other crap
ok - you are the idiots.
what is hypocrisy - is that when you dish it out better than you take it? Or something more cryptic.

 

[jimmysmitty]

..... Wow.......

Not sure how this has anything to do with anything but seriously dude look into some help. You make near zero sense these days......

 

[amdfangirl]

Neither do I.

 

[randomizer]

Neither do I.

But you don't hurl abuse around while not making sense.

 

[Guest]

Do you believe in a free market? If so then the market will determine if the prices need to drop or not.

Free market doesn't mean intel free to do what they like.

That is the difference between now and back then, and Apple have already told intel they don't want the pos igp for their laptops.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Great example, and once fusion is here, we will truly see. And is the point, but since its not here yet, being unopposed, it isnt fair, which was what I said, if it were fair. Besides the ding ding dong ding marketing thing.
Now, can a company offer highly priced compared to perf new offerings? Can they offer a confusing line up, where one model transcends the next?
Yes, just look at the 210, or the 315, or the 250, or the 240 or the 9600 or the 9800 etc

 

[notty22]

Free market doesn't mean intel free to do what they like.

That is the difference between now and back then, and **(Apple have already told intel) they don't want the pos igp for their laptops.

And one HAS TO CONCLUDE Apple does not want a AMD pos cpu to run in any of their products by the very obvious omission of even a choice.\\

**Just another misleading statement from the manifesto of Intel hating.

 

[C00lIT]

oic, and that's fun, huh?

and this is the edited version.

ever heard of abuse? - the problem w abuse, is when you abuse someone, you abuse yourself - having fun yet?
in order to do it, you have to first identify with the victim role. psych 101 or maybe 210/ whatever.

i don't know baanaatek and other crap
ok - you are the idiots.
what is hypocrisy - is that when you dish it out better than you take it? Or something more cryptic.

Sigh, I think I quoted you a few pages ago and I wasn't too nice either...
The funny thing is, I am an AMD Fan, I build and sell AMD Systems 99% of the time and I think I3 is overpriced.

My point is it isn't only the Intel Lovers that blast you... It's most people...

First, It's INTEL, saying spintel every single time gets annoying, mix that with godlike persistance and posts that sound like you are a fanatical terrorist will entertain some (like me 😛) but frustrate others.



Other then that I see no point in an I3... Athlon II 630 with a 785 chipset will destroy it for less.
I sell AMD as MOST "Normal" users don't need more then an Athlon II 630 with lets say a single good graphics card... and most users dont overclock or want to spend more money...

Note that for a power user that will require more power, I will make him an I5 or I7.

Also, Old people LOVE intel... because OLD people are always looking at the stock market... and Intel is much more expensive then AMD... Mix that with the good old "Intel Inside" stories... (I just brainwashed my parents by filling their house with AMD's)

 

[mindless728]

My point is it isn't only the Intel Lovers that blast you... It's most people...

me included, with your Zeal towards AMD you are tending to get more people not to like it, ie the way you act is more prone to move people to use AMD

basically the way you act is helping the intel fanboi's (think about that for a while)

 

[xtc28]

All intels babble makes want to hurl at times...... I see the greatness of the chips they sell but by god lets get to the good stuff here. or bad whichever comes first. Intel inside is just another way to get brainwashed to buy a product you dont need. Then again what do we really need here. AMD Suffices in most every way until you get to the high end and then to really need it you must be a 3d designer or such just for it to be anymore than bragging rights (lets not forget our hardcore gamers that believe they muat have the best)

 

[OvrClkr]

Yea, really don't know what Intel was thinking.. The funny thing is that Intel keeps selling CPU's that are too close in comparison, for example : The i3 530 is clocked at 2.93Ghz and the 540 is clocked at 3.06Ghz That is just ridiculous IMO, i mean common that is only a 15Mhz increase for 20 dollars more!!! If intel would at least have a bigger gap between models it would make more sense. Also a 330Mhz increase on the 661 for an extra 90 dollars? WTF?? ... I love the 750/860/920 but these duals are just plain junk as far as price/performance goes...

 

[xtc28]

^word

 

[amdfangirl]

But you don't hurl abuse around while not making sense.

I still don't make sense do I?

 

[warmon6]

I still don't make sense do I?

i think random was saying you made scene while other people dont.

 

[amdfangirl]

Hehe, I'm famous for semi-relevant one-liners 😛

 

[notty22]

WoW the amd whine about Intel , wtf.
Its confusing
So many , what are they thinking ?
heres AMD's price list as of oct 1,2009
16 cpu's between 2.8-3.4 ---9 quads, 4 duals , 4 tri cores.
How many of these give basically the same performance ! Talk about S T U P I D, LOL

 

[randomizer]

I'm not really seeing the stupidity in having alot of products.

 

[amdfangirl]

Except market saturation and confusing consumers, no.

 

[smithereen]

Don't really want to get into this mess but I have to disagree with you, notty22.

The 940 and 920 are discontinued. That leaves 2-4 CPUs in every class. 3 low-end dualies, separated by 100MHZ, locked multi. A bit crowded, but makes alot more sense than Intel's lineup. Two low-end quads, separated by 200MHZ. Makes sense. A high-end dual. Three high-end triples, an low-power, a bargain, and an unlocked-multi part. A mid-end quad. A energy-efficient, a bargain, an unlocked, and a top-model quad. I see no CPU out of place, except maybe the 245.

Before I get flamed, when I say "low-end/high-end", I mean where the chips stand in AMD's lineup, not the market.

 

[Guest]

Today I read something that amazed me.

PC Format magazine gave the i5 661 only 60% rating. I was amazed because PC Format magazine is known for giving high marks to the newest tech by default.

The 661 got panned, just like it should have been panned by every review site.

Cpu's like this really help to figure out who is on the take and who isn't.

Let's have a look at Anand's final words.

When I first started testing Clarkdale I actually had to call Intel and ask them to explain why this wasn't a worthless product. The Core i5 661 is priced entirely too high for what it is, and it's not even the most expensive Clarkdale Intel is selling! The Core i5 670 is going to retail for nearly $300 and it won't even be able to outperform $200 quad-core competitors.

 

[amdfangirl]

It's too expensive for a desktop chip.

It does fill a niche.

It's like Atom for desktop. Just more expensive.

 

[OvrClkr]

WoW the amd whine about Intel , wtf.
Its confusing
So many , what are they thinking ?
heres AMD's price list as of oct 1,2009
16 cpu's between 2.8-3.4 ---9 quads, 4 duals , 4 tri cores.
How many of these give basically the same performance ! Talk about S T U P I D, LOL
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr185/notty222/amdcpulist.png

That list is old... The 965 (most expensive Phenom) is priced under 200.00$ Basically cheaper than the good for nothing 640 which is ridiculously priced at 300.00$. Not trying to start an argument here but since this thread is about the 32nm dualies and how Intel is trying to rape the consumer i thought it would be necessary to post 😉

 

[amdfangirl]

sweet.

now that we've come to the conclusion, time to go offtopic!

 

[OvrClkr]

Hopefully this time Intel will be smart and lower the CPU pricing on these chips, as opposed to the 975 which Intel has sold a mere 10% of their total units. lower prices, more competition and more sales. I would rather sell 5,000 units at 500 a pop than sell 1,500 units at 1,000 a pop....You do the math....