Are Intel joking re: i3 pricing?

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You know what I've found in my relatively short time of working experience? I've learned that people can succeed under a poor manager, and people can also flounder directionless under poor management. So, my conclusion is that people, as a whole, will act in accordance to their character. The exception is that there are exceptional people in the world, both good and bad. An excellent leader can get an average person to perform as well as anyone, and a poor leader can get an average person to perform terribly.

Therefore, a strong leader + a community that itself, every person, wishes to succeed = success.

I, myself, however, am largely socialist, though not to the point of total communism. People are too stupid to act for their fellow man, even if it's the best for everyone, and people need some smart cookies to assist them (provide basic necessities for all).

But I'm young, and I know I haven't seen all that much.

Also, on topic, i3's pricing is absurd. We need an AMD Athlon X4 620 FTW Edition. I'd like that.
 
^I would agree that the pricing is absurd. But with the IGP on the chip, low as hell power usage which bumps its dual core price/performance way up its hard to say that too.

I personally would never get it except for my fiance as a replacement for the Core 2 Duo, of course I would have a real GPU and not use the on board but the CPU itself is a bit more than a E7400 and it blows the E7400 away.

But for me, I would only look at quads and up. Dual cores have a market. Thats the average consumer. Enthusiasts should be with quad or higher. Not sure why but thats what I see.

And JDJ, people see someone sad about LRB as favortisim but the funny thing is that the people who got sad tend to be very intelligent people in the relm of gaming so that means they know something the masses don't.

The fact that multiple game designers that lead the market were excited about LRB means something is there.....
 
It isnt that jimmy. First, what is sad about a top gfx card? Because it was delayed, he made a few comments in the negative.
LRB too was delayed, yet it was only sadness. These actions can be seen as favortism.
As for LRB, itll be great when its great, and not before, and all I did was point out what mountains it had to climb to get there, and why I didnt see this happening.
The market really doesnt need a fourth split ib dev, which is a problem itself, but regardless of this, LRB looks promising if they can do a few more things, and certainly for gpgpu
 


A number of chickens, too, but the damned liberals wouldn't let us sacrifice as many infants as we wanted to. That's why the i5-661 comes in at 87W instead of 83W, if you ask me...
 
Wow, 11-12 pages later and the OP (doive1231) still has not replied. Its amazing that even veterans and moderators of this forum still respond to this thread, its obvious the OP just created his account to start a flame war and it partially worked.
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It is a fair enough topic, Intel have priced the i3's and Dual Core i5's at a level that doesn't seem to make much sense.
 
I think the consensus has proved the OP out, and wed all like to see lower pricing.
If the thread ended sooner, we all wouldnt have been witness to archi's fine sense of humor.

PS Honorable mention to rey as well heheh
 
it costs about $11billion to make a fab. The i3/i5 are the only chips on the 32nm right now, so they're pulling a premium.

Last I heard, about 1 year ago, Intel is about 3-4 years ahead of AMD and IBM for fab technology.

This is part of the reason why I've always liked Intel. They may have some bad business practices, but the technology behind their work is always ahead of everyone else.

I still remember the days of the celerons coming out on a new fab and they were getting 2x-3xs their stock clock speeds and AMD was still struggling to get decent yields.
 
Speaking of Celerons and Semprons.

The Semprons were always AMDs budget range but its reputation is still intact, even the AMD Duron still has a good reputation. Why is the Celerons reputation shitted on when AMDs budget names "Duron/Sempron" is still highly respect. I never truly understood that within the IT community.

Also

With today's generation of AMD CPUs, do you think it was a mistake to release the Propus cores (no L3) quad cores under the Athlon II brand, my feeling is that the Athlon brand as a whole is a premium name, they should of put the Propus core on the Sempron or Duron brand.

What is your thoughts about this TH.
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keep in mind though that they released the Phenom line as a higher performance than Athlon
and there is one sempron chip (cut down Athlon II X2)
so the lineup is now Sempron -> Athlon II -> Phenom II

and they ditched the duron name ages age (@ S754 i do believe)
 
Speaking of Celerons and Semprons.

With today's generation of AMD CPUs, do you think it was a mistake to release the Propus cores (no L3) quad cores under the Athlon II brand, my feeling is that the Athlon brand as a whole is a premium name, they should of put the Propus core on the Sempron or Duron brand.

What is your thoughts about this TH.
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I'd agree - it is also kind of strange that AMD is doing this to begin with since they were the ones to stress the importance of the L3 to begin with !! - But I guess now as the latencies of the newer DDR3 Ram is dropping the importance of that extra level of cache is diminishing - but for gaming I still would go for a dual or triple core CPU with a decent L3 over the Quad without it for the same price level !!
 
Speaking of Celerons and Semprons.

The Semprons were always AMDs budget range but its reputation is still intact, even the AMD Duron still has a good reputation. Why is the Celerons reputation shitted on when AMDs budget names "Duron/Sempron" is still highly respect. I never truly understood that within the IT community.
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Probably because Intel varied the performance of the Celeron vs Pentium/Core 2 so often, that sometimes it was quite good and other times atrocious.

In recent years it's performance has been closer to atrocious for mine.

Also

With today's generation of AMD CPUs, do you think it was a mistake to release the Propus cores (no L3) quad cores under the Athlon II brand, my feeling is that the Athlon brand as a whole is a premium name, they should of put the Propus core on the Sempron or Duron brand.

What is your thoughts about this TH.
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I really liked the Athlon and Duron names and hate the Phleanom and Simperon names.

I wonder what they are going to call the Bulldozer family?

Anything would be better than another variant of Phleanom.

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There was a rumor awhile back that the next name change would be to the "Genesis" series, which actually doesn't sound that bad.
 

I agree on first glance it sounds like an okay name, but I wonder if the potential religious angle might stop that from happening.
 
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