Are intel stock cooler that bad?

[bazznet1]

Are Intel CPU stock cooler that bad?
Is it bad for all intel cpus or bad just only for 8700?

My friend told me that AMD CPU stock cooler much better than intel. Is that right?

Thanks.

 

[lanson.noah]

its bad in general because they dont offer them with the non-k varients and they provide really xxxx thermals compared to most after market coolers

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[Greeko85]

Will they cool down your cpu enough to keep it working? Sure. Are they loud and not great at their job? You bet!

And yeh your friend is right-the newer stock coolers that came with the Ryzen range are amazing. Not as good as aftermarket ones but great for being free

 

[rhoban]

The Intel stock cooler is really small. When I got my 8700, the box was so small I thought it came without the cooler.
Then I opened it and saw that joke cooler.

Yeah, will cool your CPU, but it's probably gonna sit around 70-80C.

 

[bazznet1]

I know that enough to keep it working, but I think cpu overheating effect fps/performance:

And I would like to know if the 8700 is the only intel CPU that has this issue.

 

[bazznet1]

https://youtu.be/W2HuMxB0qT0

 

[madmatt30]

The cooler that comes with the i5 8400/i5 8500 is the exact same one that comes with the i7 8700.

It stands to reason with the i7 having hyperthreading & a 30watt higher tdp it's going to run substantially hotter.

So yeah it has issues maintaining full all core boost clocks when stress testing at 100% load.

Fact is though under gaming it's not going to hit anywhere near that type of load or temp.

For general use the stock cooler is fine.
I refuse to use stock Intel coolers anyway though personally, just to damn noisy under load for my delicate ears.

 

[bazznet1]

Thanks.

And is it possible to overclock a Ryzen 2600 CPU with stock cooler? And how much of a performance increase will I get?

 

[Greeko85]

Even though the 2600 comes with the wraith stealth, instead of the spire like the 2600x, its still a decent cooler. I wouldn't really be pushing the overclock too hard though.

 

[jankerson]

The cooler that comes with the i5 8400/i5 8500 is the exact same one that comes with the i7 8700.

It stands to reason with the i7 having hyperthreading & a 30watt higher tdp it's going to run substantially hotter.

So yeah it has issues maintaining full all core boost clocks when stress testing at 100% load.

Fact is though under gaming it's not going to hit anywhere near that type of load or temp.

For general use the stock cooler is fine.
I refuse to use stock Intel coolers anyway though personally, just to damn noisy under load for my delicate ears.

Yeah the Intel stock coolers work fine for real use, but as you said they are loud.

But they are serviceable and will keep the CPU within limits under use.

 

[bazznet1]

Yeah the Intel stock coolers work fine for real use, but as you said they are loud.

But they are serviceable and will keep the CPU within limits under use.

Where can I see that Intel stock coolers work fine for real use (8700)?
I have searched the net for one hour but I haven't found some tests about i7 8700 with stock cooler for real use.

 

[nmb255]

Yeah the Intel stock coolers work fine for real use, but as you said they are loud.

But they are serviceable and will keep the CPU within limits under use.

Where can I see that Intel stock coolers work fine for real use (8700)?
I have searched the net for one hour but I haven't found some tests about i7 8700 with stock cooler for real use.

These very forums: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2945119/stock-cooler-gaming.html

Normal use means not overclocking and does include gaming. Under those circumstances the stock cooler works. If it didn't they wouldn't be able to sell it [at least not here in the UK]. Sure it's not the coolest or the quietest, but it works.

There are lots of 10-bux after market coolers that are essentially the same performance as the stock cooler. Even the ones with cold-sounding-names or claims of being silent.

If you want a better than stock cooler then you should look for one with Heat-Pipes and those that typically have the fan at 90 degrees to the CPU. After that, water although those can be loader than air.

So long as you aren't hitting thermal-throttling the Type, Make, Colour, Style, or amount of RGB will not effect your FPS.

 

[jankerson]

Yeah the Intel stock coolers work fine for real use, but as you said they are loud.

But they are serviceable and will keep the CPU within limits under use.

Where can I see that Intel stock coolers work fine for real use (8700)?
I have searched the net for one hour but I haven't found some tests about i7 8700 with stock cooler for real use.

There really aren't any because reviewers want hits on their sites and the 8700 would get less hits than the 8700K.

 

[madmatt30]

https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-core-i7-8700-cpu-review,review-34397-5.html

Toms reviewed it , as expected under a 12 thread 100% cinebench test it hits 100x & throttles to base clocks.

Look at the game results & they're identical between the stock heatsink & a decent 240mm aio.

 

[jankerson]

https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-core-i7-8700-cpu-review,review-34397-5.html

Toms reviewed it , as expected under a 12 thread 100% cinebench test it hits 100x & throttles to base clocks.

Look at the game results & they're identical between the stock heatsink & a decent 240mm aio.

Yeah I know, I saw it.

 

[olaf]

I honestly can't think of a reason to want to use the stock cooler on a high end cpu like the 8700 on a permanent basis.... After dishing out a hundreds of $/€ for a CPU. You whould want to save up 30-40 $/€ for a cheap closed loop water-cooling or a mediocre air cooler that whould net you a better thermal exchange. Resulting in better performance and longer life of your components. Heat is not your friend when it comes to longevity and possible stability of your system. The stock cooler will result in thermal throttling on continuios high loads, and less time of the CPU stepping up to specified turbo frequencies. Also do keep in mind if you build a PC your temperatures will be affected by, the closed case, other components and ofc ambient temperature.

 

[Max_x2]

Lol non-sense, 30-40$ get you a great air cooler ( even better in euros!). Paid mine 25$ some 6 years ago for an open box thermaltake frio that can dissipate 240W of heat. Nothing mediocre about that. Beside, it's dead silent.