Are the amd fx's cpus really that bad???

[killer14321]

I dont want to know that they dont beat the i5s i know this intel performence is better but amd is more bang for the buck. what i want to know are they ok for gaming. not for anything else can they run bf3 at 1080 ultra setttings with decent fps?? or should i wait tell piledriver comes out?

 

[killer14321]

im going to wait for pd to release not getting windows 8 cause it looks like crap its made for tablets not for pc and its going to flop like windows vista did. any sugstions on a good graphics card?

 

[nekulturny]

im going to wait for pd to release not getting windows 8 cause it looks like crap its made for tablets not for pc and its going to flop like windows vista did. any sugstions on a good graphics card?

The absolute best you can afford. But bare minimum, for a 1080p gaming system today I'd want something on the 660 TI/7870 level. Although 7850 GTX 570/560 TIs, will get the job done too, you still want to go as high as you can afford.

And yea, I don't expect Windows 8 is going to be that successful either. A lot of people share our sentiment about the new Metro interface, while there seem to be workarounds to restore it to something resembling a classic mode, is going to result in a Vista-like embarrassment for Microsoft.

I found this:
http://www.howtogeek.com/107711/how-to-get-the-classic-start-menu-back-in-windows-8/

Basically you have to build your own classic mode. Its more work than should be necessary.

 

[sarinaide]

There is nothing wrong with the FX, sure there are things to iron out with the modular architecture, but nobody should expect step 1 in a 4 part release to be perfecta.

 

[killer14321]

ima stick with windows 7 cause its boss. and i just got my first part time job and i make 600 a month so im trying to keep the tower under 600 hundred and i need a new monter so trying to keep it under 800

 

[nekulturny]

Hey, just for the sake of discussion, and because I don't have any friends nerdy enough to care, I'll share here. Now I know everyone always talks about how "bad" AMD is for video card drivers, Nvidia released an update the other day version
306.23. Its causing annoying problems! Every time I use the onscreen magnifier build into Win7, my monitors start flickering and crap.. I'm gonna have to do a rollback.

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

Hey, just for the sake of discussion, and because I don't have any friends nerdy enough to care, I'll share here. Now I know everyone always talks about how "bad" AMD is for video card drivers, Nvidia released an update the other day version
306.23. Its causing annoying problems! Every time I use the onscreen magnifier build into Win7, my monitors start flickering and crap.. I'm gonna have to do a rollback.

Hell, I'm still using 295.73. I'm not a hardcore gamer anyway, so I just haven't had a reason to update, but from what I understand, the 29x.xx drivers were some of the best recent drivers from Nvidia, so I'll stick with what I have until I'm absolutely forced to update.

 

[nekulturny]

Hell, I'm still using 295.73. I'm not a hardcore gamer anyway, so I just haven't had a reason to update, but from what I understand, the 29x.xx drivers were some of the best recent drivers from Nvidia, so I'll stick with what I have until I'm absolutely forced to update.

Yea, well I never followed driver stuff that much, but I figured may as well keep the most up to date drivers, the thing automatically checks anyway, thats the only automatic update feature I haven't turned off in Win7, but I may have to revisit that policy after that BS. Rolled back and rebooted, sho'nuff, the magnifier works properly again.

I probably will turn off the update thing, but I'm droppin a 7870 in here shortly, so the point is moot.

 

[allanitomwesh]

7850 1gb is boss for poor man's card @1080p. I agree he should throw as much as he can into the card,crossfire / sli configurations are just a hassle.

 

[skitz9417]

hey i just asking it been a upgrade if i change my cpu to a fx pd froma phemonx 4 840

 

[allanitomwesh]

hey i just asking it been a upgrade if i change my cpu to a fx pd froma phemonx 4 840

Yes it would, but I'd wait for benchmarks.

 

[skitz9417]

ok thanks

 

[killer14321]

whats a good gpu for 160 dollars

 

[nekulturny]

6870s, but they're not ideal for 1080p gaming, a lot of games they frankly will not do it. I'd save more.

 

[killer14321]

cpu:
fx 4170 or fx 6100
120
Graphics card:
160
Case:
RAIDMAX Super Hurricane ATX-248NWU Black / Blue Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
45
Psu:
RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply
50
Ram:
Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866
55
Hard drive:
Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AZRX 500GB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
70
Optical drive:
20
Motherboard:
GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
115
key board mouse:
25
monter:
Acer S220HQLAbd Black 21.5" 5ms LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 ACM 100,000,000:1 (1000:1)
130
790
thats just most the things ima wait a couple months for piledriver to see how good they are

 

[nekulturny]

Get a different power supply than a raidmax. They're junk. I'd look at a Corsair CX500v2 if you're on a tight budget, or a Corsair TX650v2 ideally.

Look at Caviar Blue hard drives if you want a WDC Hard drive.

I'd go Asus M5A97-970 over the Gigabyte one.. Reason.. brand preference purely to be fair.

Phenom II 965 over the FX-4170 or 6100 in my opinion.

Don't get more than 1600mhz rated RAM, 1866 isn't necessary.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Hey, just for the sake of discussion, and because I don't have any friends nerdy enough to care, I'll share here. Now I know everyone always talks about how "bad" AMD is for video card drivers, Nvidia released an update the other day version
306.23. Its causing annoying problems! Every time I use the onscreen magnifier build into Win7, my monitors start flickering and crap.. I'm gonna have to do a rollback.

I (and many others) don't use the magnifier but I'm sorry to hear you have an issue.

 

[nekulturny]

I (and many others) don't use the magnifier but I'm sorry to hear you have an issue.

Lol, well.. I dunno if there were any problems other than that, mainly because I haven't really gamed since my 550 TI hit a wall of unacceptability with Skyrim (I decided to just upgrade the graphics card and not get bored with the games I have playing at unfavorable details). But, I use the magnifier a lot, its easier if I'm watching a movie or TV show I torrented to use change the episode or, its the poor mans remote control, so I don't have to get up and walk over to the computer, lol. I'm kinda blind without my glasses at a distance, they broke a couple months ago, thats another issue entirely that gets fixed when my Stafford loan pays out in about 2 weeks.

I rolled back the Nvidia drivers, that definitely was the problem.

 

[noob2222]

whats a good gpu for 160 dollars

7770 or 6850 push the same fps, way better than the 650, all 3 priced at $150 on egg

next step is the 6870, considerably better than the 336 core 560s $170

http://www.techspot.com/review/458-battlefield-3-performance/page5.html

aside from that, if your overclocking, 965= 6100 >> 4170, but all 3 will be bottlenecked at the gpu. If your not overclocking, knock the 6100 off and go with the 965.

Battlefield loves core count up to the gpu bottleneck.

 

[killer14321]

wait the gpu will be bottled necked buy the cpus. or the cpus will be bottled necked by the gpu?

 

[killer14321]

cpu:
fx 4170 or fx 6100
120
Graphics card:
SAPPHIRE 11188-22-20G Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (OC Edition)
200
Case:
RAIDMAX Super Hurricane ATX-248NWU Black / Blue Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
45
Psu:
Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W Continuous @40°C,80 PLUS Certified,
60
Ram:
Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
41
Hard drive:
Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AZRX 500GB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
70
Optical drive:
20
Motherboard:
ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
90
776

 

[ohyouknow]

I would suggest moving up from the caviar green and move onto a caviar blue. Green will save you more energy but is slower than the blue.

Get HD 7850 if your GPU budget is ~$200, better performance, lower consumption, better all around card for the same price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102998

 

[noob2222]

6950 and 7850 are near identical, it its the same price, go with the new.

 

[killer14321]

is the SAPPHIRE 100355L Radeon HD 7850 a good card and is it crossfire comptable? and will the fx 4170 fx 6100 bottleneck this gpu?

 

[killer14321]

i think ima go with this card HIS IceQ X H785QN2G2M Radeon HD 7850

 

[amuffin]

They're all crossfire compatible, why not a Phenom II?