Question Are these CPU temps normal ?

[NonKnowledgableTurtle]

I've noticed my CPU temperature used to be around 40-42 on start-up now whenever I start it up the base temperature is around 50-52 now. I'm using water-cooling and I often get my temperature around 80-90* is that normal? I mainly use this for just gaming but it seems it doesn't add up sometimes that it reaches 90.

 

[Dj0gany]

No, that isnt normal for a AIO.
What CPU do you use and what is the exact make/model of the AIO u have?

 

[NonKnowledgableTurtle]

I'm running a i5-13400F on a cougar poseidon gt 240. I'm unsure if the cougar can handle an i5-13th gen but it's what was the store recommended me to get

 

[CountMike]

I'm running a i5-13400F on a cougar poseidon gt 240. I'm unsure if the cougar can handle an i5-13th gen but it's what was the store recommended me to get

It should be enough if working and installed properly but it also depends on case ventilation. Best when installed at front as intake and with matching airflow at back and or top of case as exhaust or it just circulates air inside the case.

 

[NonKnowledgableTurtle]

I don't even trust the person who assembled this, the first time they assembled it, it was both plugged on sysfan, i went there to ask it was suppose to be plugged on cpu fan, now i have cpu fan and sys fan 2 on my msi center showing (back then it was sysfan 1 and sysfan 2)

 

[CountMike]

I don't even trust the person who assembled this, the first time they assembled it, it was both plugged on sysfan, i went there to ask it was suppose to be plugged on cpu fan, now i have cpu fan and sys fan 2 on my msi center showing (back then it was sysfan 1 and sysfan 2)

Not familiar with that cooler but you may want to check if pump is running at appropriate speed as I can see that it's not adjustable.
On the other hand, if they made a mistake with connections, it's possible that mounting of block/pump or applying of paste was wrong too. You didn't say where and how radiator was mounted or if there are any obstructions in front or behind it.

 

[geofelt]

Your temperatures are not dangerous.
The cpu will slow down or even shut off if it detects a dangerous temperature. That is around 100c.
But, the behavior indicates that something is starting to go wrong with cooling.

13400 comes with a perfectly adequate laminar flow stock cooler.
I think you were oversold on an aio.
AIO coolers do not last forever.
In time, the mechanical pump will fail or get clogged.
Air will intrude through the tubes and the aio will need to be replaced. Think 5 years.
You are not there yet.

 

[NonKnowledgableTurtle]

just now i was just playing league my temp got to 100* im pretty sure it's not normal

 

[geofelt]

Your motherboard is pushing up your cpu performance as best it can.
It is testing the limits at 100c. and will drop down a bit to keep the performance as high as it can.
So long as there is no failure, occasionally reaching 100c. is no big deal.

Start up HWmonitor so you can see individual thread statistics.
Then run the cpu-Z stress test and watch how the individual cores respond.
I would expect to see the fastest cores show a max of 100c. in red indicating throttling.

 

[Jamesb8488]

I don't even trust the person who assembled this, the first time they assembled it, it was both plugged on sysfan, i went there to ask it was suppose to be plugged on cpu fan, now i have cpu fan and sys fan 2 on my msi center showing (back then it was sysfan 1 and sysfan 2)

you dont see or have a option to plug in your pump or aio fans into the CPUfan 1 or 2 ports? they should be labeled... my MSI board has 1 CPU strictly for the CPU and then 4 system fan ports that run intake and exhaust unsure if you answered this or not but what motherboard are you using?

 

[NonKnowledgableTurtle]

you dont see or have a option to plug in your pump or aio fans into the CPUfan 1 or 2 ports? they should be labeled... my MSI board has 1 CPU strictly for the CPU and then 4 system fan ports that run intake and exhaust unsure if you answered this or not but what motherboard are you using?

im using a MSI H610M-E

 

[NonKnowledgableTurtle]

Your motherboard is pushing up your cpu performance as best it can.
It is testing the limits at 100c. and will drop down a bit to keep the performance as high as it can.
So long as there is no failure, occasionally reaching 100c. is no big deal.

Start up HWmonitor so you can see individual thread statistics.
Then run the cpu-Z stress test and watch how the individual cores respond.
I would expect to see the fastest cores show a max of 100c. in red indicating throttling.

When it peaks 100c i noticed there's becoming framedrops so I have to let it rest for at least 10 minutes (shut down) because it won't cool off if I left it on, for an AIO i find it weird that it does that

 

[CountMike]

When it peaks 100c i noticed there's becoming framedrops so I have to let it rest for at least 10 minutes (shut down) because it won't cool off if I left it on, for an AIO i find it weird that it does that

"Dangerous" temperature is relative thing, it may not blow up or burn but at some temps it will limit boost, then start to throttle and by time it reaches shut down temps you already lost half of performance. Should stay at least about 10-15c bellow throttling temps to enjoy full performance.
You should let someone review that cooling or possibly redo it but in meantime see in BIOS to lower voltages (undervolt) as much as possible.

 

[geofelt]

H610 are budget motherboards without the capability to manage the cpu as well.
I speculate that if the cpu reaches 100c. it has only the smarts to crash to protect from damage.
But, it might also reduce the clock rate to reduce heat until the temperature stabilizes.
Any way you look at it, something is amiss with cooling.
If you suspect that your aio might be defective, try installing the stock cooler.
It will work, but it might get noisy under full load.
Do some experimenting by running the cpu-Z stress test and monitoring temperatures.
It is not the most stressful of testing apps, but, I figure that it approximates what games will be doing.

For an aio, the key is to plug the pump header into a fan port that will operate at 100% from the start.
A cpu fan header is typically temperature controlled and may not run at all until the cpu temperature rises.