Are they alive?

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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd2mg0d.h6j.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x3.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>> Ey? Oh, yes. Abandon human children below the age of four on a
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> planet, and they wouldn't grow up building skyscrapers and
>>>>>>>> railroads
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haha, very funny. [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erm...? We were serious. Assume that the children survived, of
>>>>>> course.
>>>>>
>>>>> As if skyscrapers and railroads were a measure of things...
>>>>
>>>> All right, human children raised by nomadic aliens on a different
>>>> planet
>>>> with an inactive nuclear power plant.
>>>
>>> Don't go that far. Just put them into a cage. Or preferably in the
>>> jungle.
>>
>> I think we're working towards different goals.
>
> Goals? Wait... you are *not* experimenting on humans, are you? Keep
> _that_ for the professionals, will you?

Eh. I think it's probably best that this conversation be cut short.

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On 2005-03-08, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd2qphm.vgk.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>> news:slrnd2mfq1.h6j.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x3.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>> On 2005-03-06, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:slrnd2lf5d.e9l.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>> On 2005-03-06, bd <bdonlan@bd.beginyourfear.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>| Very true, but that brings us back to the original question: "Are
>>>>>>>norns
>>>>>>>| alive?". There must be some (psychological) test one that is clever
>>>>>>>| enough could devise. I think norns are very simple life forms, but I
>>>>>>>| don't know how to proof it :-(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any behavioral test will likely fail, as life has very varied
>>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>>> The best way is to define life such that norns can be tested to see
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> they fit the criteria.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's of course the easiest way, but there's not much point in
>>>>>> adjusting your tests to your results. There *used* to be this
>>>>>> definition
>>>>>> of life with reproducing and acting upon stimuli and metabolism and
>>>>>> stuff, but I'm pretty sure Norns don't fit in *there*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't they? Why not?
>>>>
>>>> There were a few pitfalls. I thin the whole metabolism thingamajig just
>>>> couldn't be met by anything virtual...
>>>
>>> Hmm. Strange... they at least gave a good impression of simulating it,
>>> at
>>> least in C2.
>>
>> Yes, but the definiton was rather strict.
>
> Ah. What were the relevant parts?

Frankly... I have no clue. I kinda... forgot it.
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"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

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On 2005-03-08, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd2qpkr.vgk.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>> news:slrnd2mg0d.h6j.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x3.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>>> Ey? Oh, yes. Abandon human children below the age of four on a
>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>> planet, and they wouldn't grow up building skyscrapers and
>>>>>>>>> railroads
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Haha, very funny. [1]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Erm...? We were serious. Assume that the children survived, of
>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As if skyscrapers and railroads were a measure of things...
>>>>>
>>>>> All right, human children raised by nomadic aliens on a different
>>>>> planet
>>>>> with an inactive nuclear power plant.
>>>>
>>>> Don't go that far. Just put them into a cage. Or preferably in the
>>>> jungle.
>>>
>>> I think we're working towards different goals.
>>
>> Goals? Wait... you are *not* experimenting on humans, are you? Keep
>> _that_ for the professionals, will you?
>
> Eh. I think it's probably best that this conversation be cut short.

Why?
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"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

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On 2005-03-08, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd2qpoj.vgk.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>> news:slrnd2ns24.h6q.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x4.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>> On 2005-03-06, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>> On 2005-03-06, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:slrnd2h0ai.208.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>
>>>>><snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Intelligence is a matter of definition, of course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*nods...* And (we think) irrelevant to the status of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you'd probably call anything intelligent "alive".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eh. Not necessarily--what about a stereotypical AI, such as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SHODAN?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You mean the typical AI with a god complex?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, that too. The god complex is optional--for another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>example,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo's Cortana, though arguably as she semi-originated from a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>human,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>she doesn't count as much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Didn't play Halo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pity. Ah, well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Xbox, wasn't it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, but it was recently released for the PC, and is very good.
>>>>>>>>>>>*nod
>>>>>>>>>>>nod*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>::shrugs:: I don't really care.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Aiee.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Huh?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(Must... make a gamer... out of emmel...!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Forget it. I'm to old for that now. Ther are more important things.
>>>>>
>>>>> More important?! Remember, "You're In the game" and "Life is like a
>>>>> videogame with no chance to win". (took that from the lyrics of "Delete
>>>>> Yourself" by "Atari Teenage Riot" or ATR for short; you could probably
>>>>> find it on some p2p network if you tried hard enough, tis godo).
>>>>
>>>> And I'm about to loose.
>>>
>>> ...
>>> 'lose'. One 'o'.
>>
>> Well, my mind is loosening/loosing(sp?) any links to that way of
>> thinking...
>> (I know, lousy excuse.)
>
> Thingamajig. And 'losing'.

No, 2 "o"s.
--
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(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

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"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:slrnd2u630.32b.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
> On 2005-03-08, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd2qphm.vgk.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:slrnd2mfq1.h6j.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x3.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>> On 2005-03-06, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:slrnd2lf5d.e9l.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>> On 2005-03-06, bd <bdonlan@bd.beginyourfear.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>| Very true, but that brings us back to the original question: "Are
>>>>>>>>norns
>>>>>>>>| alive?". There must be some (psychological) test one that is
>>>>>>>>clever
>>>>>>>>| enough could devise. I think norns are very simple life forms, but
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>| don't know how to proof it :-(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any behavioral test will likely fail, as life has very varied
>>>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>>>> The best way is to define life such that norns can be tested to see
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> they fit the criteria.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's of course the easiest way, but there's not much point in
>>>>>>> adjusting your tests to your results. There *used* to be this
>>>>>>> definition
>>>>>>> of life with reproducing and acting upon stimuli and metabolism and
>>>>>>> stuff, but I'm pretty sure Norns don't fit in *there*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't they? Why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> There were a few pitfalls. I thin the whole metabolism thingamajig
>>>>> just
>>>>> couldn't be met by anything virtual...
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. Strange... they at least gave a good impression of simulating
>>>> it,
>>>> at
>>>> least in C2.
>>>
>>> Yes, but the definiton was rather strict.
>>
>> Ah. What were the relevant parts?
>
> Frankly... I have no clue. I kinda... forgot it.

....

Eh. Probably relatively unimportant, then.

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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:slrnd2u6fd.32b.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
> On 2005-03-08, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd2qpoj.vgk.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:slrnd2ns24.h6q.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x4.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>> On 2005-03-06, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2005-03-06, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:slrnd2h0ai.208.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>
>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Intelligence is a matter of definition, of course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*nods...* And (we think) irrelevant to the status of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you'd probably call anything intelligent "alive".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eh. Not necessarily--what about a stereotypical AI, such
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SHODAN?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You mean the typical AI with a god complex?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, that too. The god complex is optional--for another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>example,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo's Cortana, though arguably as she semi-originated from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>human,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>she doesn't count as much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Didn't play Halo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pity. Ah, well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xbox, wasn't it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, but it was recently released for the PC, and is very good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>*nod
>>>>>>>>>>>>nod*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>::shrugs:: I don't really care.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Aiee.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Huh?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(Must... make a gamer... out of emmel...!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forget it. I'm to old for that now. Ther are more important things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More important?! Remember, "You're In the game" and "Life is like a
>>>>>> videogame with no chance to win". (took that from the lyrics of
>>>>>> "Delete
>>>>>> Yourself" by "Atari Teenage Riot" or ATR for short; you could
>>>>>> probably
>>>>>> find it on some p2p network if you tried hard enough, tis godo).
>>>>>
>>>>> And I'm about to loose.
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>> 'lose'. One 'o'.
>>>
>>> Well, my mind is loosening/loosing(sp?) any links to that way of
>>> thinking...
>>> (I know, lousy excuse.)
>>
>> Thingamajig. And 'losing'.
>
> No, 2 "o"s.

....

Hard to guess exactly which word you're looking for without a definition.

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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:slrnd2u64a.32b.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
> On 2005-03-08, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd2qpkr.vgk.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:slrnd2mg0d.h6j.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x3.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>>>> Ey? Oh, yes. Abandon human children below the age of four on a
>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>> planet, and they wouldn't grow up building skyscrapers and
>>>>>>>>>> railroads
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Haha, very funny. [1]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Erm...? We were serious. Assume that the children survived, of
>>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As if skyscrapers and railroads were a measure of things...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All right, human children raised by nomadic aliens on a different
>>>>>> planet
>>>>>> with an inactive nuclear power plant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't go that far. Just put them into a cage. Or preferably in the
>>>>> jungle.
>>>>
>>>> I think we're working towards different goals.
>>>
>>> Goals? Wait... you are *not* experimenting on humans, are you? Keep
>>> _that_ for the professionals, will you?
>>
>> Eh. I think it's probably best that this conversation be cut short.
>
> Why?

*innocent whistling*

Incidentally, how's JNCOBOY?

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On 2005-03-10, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd2u630.32b.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>> On 2005-03-08, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>> news:slrnd2qphm.vgk.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:slrnd2mfq1.h6j.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x3.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>> On 2005-03-06, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:slrnd2lf5d.e9l.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>> On 2005-03-06, bd <bdonlan@bd.beginyourfear.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>| Very true, but that brings us back to the original question: "Are
>>>>>>>>>norns
>>>>>>>>>| alive?". There must be some (psychological) test one that is
>>>>>>>>>clever
>>>>>>>>>| enough could devise. I think norns are very simple life forms, but
>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>| don't know how to proof it :-(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any behavioral test will likely fail, as life has very varied
>>>>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>>>>> The best way is to define life such that norns can be tested to see
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> they fit the criteria.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's of course the easiest way, but there's not much point in
>>>>>>>> adjusting your tests to your results. There *used* to be this
>>>>>>>> definition
>>>>>>>> of life with reproducing and acting upon stimuli and metabolism and
>>>>>>>> stuff, but I'm pretty sure Norns don't fit in *there*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't they? Why not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There were a few pitfalls. I thin the whole metabolism thingamajig
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> couldn't be met by anything virtual...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm. Strange... they at least gave a good impression of simulating
>>>>> it,
>>>>> at
>>>>> least in C2.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but the definiton was rather strict.
>>>
>>> Ah. What were the relevant parts?
>>
>> Frankly... I have no clue. I kinda... forgot it.
>
> ...
>
> Eh. Probably relatively unimportant, then.

It's probably 15 years since I read them last...
--
emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

Official AGC feedback maniac

"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

Hi, I'm a .sig virus. Just copy me to your .signature. And don't worry.

 

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On 2005-03-10, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd2u64a.32b.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>> On 2005-03-08, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>> news:slrnd2qpkr.vgk.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:slrnd2mg0d.h6j.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x3.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>>>>> Ey? Oh, yes. Abandon human children below the age of four on a
>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>> planet, and they wouldn't grow up building skyscrapers and
>>>>>>>>>>> railroads
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Haha, very funny. [1]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Erm...? We were serious. Assume that the children survived, of
>>>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As if skyscrapers and railroads were a measure of things...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All right, human children raised by nomadic aliens on a different
>>>>>>> planet
>>>>>>> with an inactive nuclear power plant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't go that far. Just put them into a cage. Or preferably in the
>>>>>> jungle.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we're working towards different goals.
>>>>
>>>> Goals? Wait... you are *not* experimenting on humans, are you? Keep
>>>> _that_ for the professionals, will you?
>>>
>>> Eh. I think it's probably best that this conversation be cut short.
>>
>> Why?
>
> *innocent whistling*
>
> Incidentally, how's JNCOBOY?

Pretty much dead and it's your turn anyway.
--
emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

Official AGC feedback maniac

"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

Hi, I'm a .sig virus. Just copy me to your .signature. And don't worry.

 

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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> On 2005-03-10, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd2u64a.32b.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>> On 2005-03-08, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:slrnd2qpkr.vgk.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:slrnd2mg0d.h6j.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x3.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ey? Oh, yes. Abandon human children below the age of four on
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, and they wouldn't grow up building skyscrapers and
>>>>>>>>>>>> railroads
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Haha, very funny. [1]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Erm...? We were serious. Assume that the children survived, of
>>>>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As if skyscrapers and railroads were a measure of things...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All right, human children raised by nomadic aliens on a different
>>>>>>>> planet
>>>>>>>> with an inactive nuclear power plant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't go that far. Just put them into a cage. Or preferably in the
>>>>>>> jungle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we're working towards different goals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Goals? Wait... you are *not* experimenting on humans, are you? Keep
>>>>> _that_ for the professionals, will you?
>>>>
>>>> Eh. I think it's probably best that this conversation be cut short.
>>>
>>> Why?
>>
>> *innocent whistling*
>>
>> Incidentally, how's JNCOBOY?
>
> Pretty much dead and it's your turn anyway.

Wait. What? Where!? *runs!*

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emmel wrote:
> On 2005-03-06, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
>>emmel wrote:
>>
>>>On 2005-03-06, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:slrnd2h0ai.208.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Intelligence is a matter of definition, of course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*nods...* And (we think) irrelevant to the status of being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you'd probably call anything intelligent "alive".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eh. Not necessarily--what about a stereotypical AI, such as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SHODAN?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>You mean the typical AI with a god complex?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, that too. The god complex is optional--for another example,
>>>>>>>>>>>>take
>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo's Cortana, though arguably as she semi-originated from a
>>>>>>>>>>>>living
>>>>>>>>>>>>human,
>>>>>>>>>>>>she doesn't count as much.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Didn't play Halo.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Pity. Ah, well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Xbox, wasn't it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, but it was recently released for the PC, and is very good. *nod
>>>>>>>>nod*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>::shrugs:: I don't really care.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Aiee.
>>>>>
>>>>>Huh?
>>>>
>>>>(Must... make a gamer... out of emmel...!)
>>>
>>>
>>>Forget it. I'm to old for that now. Ther are more important things.
>>
>>More important?! Remember, "You're In the game" and "Life is like a
>>videogame with no chance to win". (took that from the lyrics of "Delete
>>Yourself" by "Atari Teenage Riot" or ATR for short; you could probably
>>find it on some p2p network if you tried hard enough, tis godo).
>
>
> And I'm about to loose.

You can't lose yet! We still need you!
(btw I think there is a way to cheat in this game of life, I just
haven't figured it out yet ;-p)
Thomas
- --
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scale of the problem is not always appreciated." - DNA, THHGTTG Chapter 31
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On 2005-03-12, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
> emmel wrote:
>> On 2005-03-06, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Intelligence is a matter of definition, of course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*nods...* And (we think) irrelevant to the status of being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you'd probably call anything intelligent "alive".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eh. Not necessarily--what about a stereotypical AI, such as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SHODAN?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You mean the typical AI with a god complex?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, that too. The god complex is optional--for another example,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo's Cortana, though arguably as she semi-originated from a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>human,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>she doesn't count as much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Didn't play Halo.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Pity. Ah, well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Xbox, wasn't it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, but it was recently released for the PC, and is very good. *nod
>>>>>>>>>nod*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>::shrugs:: I don't really care.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Aiee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Huh?
>>>>>
>>>>>(Must... make a gamer... out of emmel...!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Forget it. I'm to old for that now. Ther are more important things.
>>>
>>>More important?! Remember, "You're In the game" and "Life is like a
>>>videogame with no chance to win". (took that from the lyrics of "Delete
>>>Yourself" by "Atari Teenage Riot" or ATR for short; you could probably
>>>find it on some p2p network if you tried hard enough, tis godo).
>>
>>
>> And I'm about to loose.
>
> You can't lose yet! We still need you!

That's the first time I hear _that_...

> (btw I think there is a way to cheat in this game of life, I just
> haven't figured it out yet ;-p)

Easy: have rich parents with excellent connections to politics and
economy. The problems is to get those parents.
--
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"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

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On 2005-03-11, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd30o80.5e4.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>> On 2005-03-10, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>> news:slrnd2u64a.32b.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>> On 2005-03-08, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:slrnd2qpkr.vgk.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:slrnd2mg0d.h6j.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x3.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ey? Oh, yes. Abandon human children below the age of four on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, and they wouldn't grow up building skyscrapers and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> railroads
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Haha, very funny. [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Erm...? We were serious. Assume that the children survived, of
>>>>>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As if skyscrapers and railroads were a measure of things...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All right, human children raised by nomadic aliens on a different
>>>>>>>>> planet
>>>>>>>>> with an inactive nuclear power plant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't go that far. Just put them into a cage. Or preferably in the
>>>>>>>> jungle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we're working towards different goals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Goals? Wait... you are *not* experimenting on humans, are you? Keep
>>>>>> _that_ for the professionals, will you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Eh. I think it's probably best that this conversation be cut short.
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>
>>> *innocent whistling*
>>>
>>> Incidentally, how's JNCOBOY?
>>
>> Pretty much dead and it's your turn anyway.
>
> Wait. What? Where!? *runs!*

Hm, I'd thought he'd /fly/...
--
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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> On 2005-03-11, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd30o80.5e4.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>> On 2005-03-10, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:slrnd2u64a.32b.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>> On 2005-03-08, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:slrnd2qpkr.vgk.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:slrnd2mg0d.h6j.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x3.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ey? Oh, yes. Abandon human children below the age of four
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, and they wouldn't grow up building skyscrapers and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> railroads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haha, very funny. [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Erm...? We were serious. Assume that the children survived,
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As if skyscrapers and railroads were a measure of things...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All right, human children raised by nomadic aliens on a different
>>>>>>>>>> planet
>>>>>>>>>> with an inactive nuclear power plant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't go that far. Just put them into a cage. Or preferably in the
>>>>>>>>> jungle.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we're working towards different goals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Goals? Wait... you are *not* experimenting on humans, are you? Keep
>>>>>>> _that_ for the professionals, will you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eh. I think it's probably best that this conversation be cut short.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>>
>>>> *innocent whistling*
>>>>
>>>> Incidentally, how's JNCOBOY?
>>>
>>> Pretty much dead and it's your turn anyway.
>>
>> Wait. What? Where!? *runs!*
>
> Hm, I'd thought he'd /fly/...

You're thinking of Rupert. There tend to be... problems with maintaining a
sagely appearance when one is running as fast as one's legs can carry one.
Wearing a robe doesn't help, either.

--
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On 2005-03-15, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd3be6b.gep.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x8.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ey? Oh, yes. Abandon human children below the age of four
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, and they wouldn't grow up building skyscrapers and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> railroads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haha, very funny. [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erm...? We were serious. Assume that the children survived,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As if skyscrapers and railroads were a measure of things...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All right, human children raised by nomadic aliens on a different
>>>>>>>>>>> planet
>>>>>>>>>>> with an inactive nuclear power plant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don't go that far. Just put them into a cage. Or preferably in the
>>>>>>>>>> jungle.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we're working towards different goals.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Goals? Wait... you are *not* experimenting on humans, are you? Keep
>>>>>>>> _that_ for the professionals, will you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eh. I think it's probably best that this conversation be cut short.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> *innocent whistling*
>>>>>
>>>>> Incidentally, how's JNCOBOY?
>>>>
>>>> Pretty much dead and it's your turn anyway.
>>>
>>> Wait. What? Where!? *runs!*
>>
>> Hm, I'd thought he'd /fly/...
>
> You're thinking of Rupert. There tend to be... problems with maintaining a

Rupert is identical with Refractor?

> sagely appearance when one is running as fast as one's legs can carry one.
> Wearing a robe doesn't help, either.

Marcus speaking?
You know, maybe I should just call you by your human name. It'd make
things a lot easier...
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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:slrnd3eav0.bbt.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
> On 2005-03-15, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd3be6b.gep.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x8.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ey? Oh, yes. Abandon human children below the age of four
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, and they wouldn't grow up building skyscrapers and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> railroads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haha, very funny. [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erm...? We were serious. Assume that the children survived,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As if skyscrapers and railroads were a measure of things...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All right, human children raised by nomadic aliens on a
>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>> planet
>>>>>>>>>>>> with an inactive nuclear power plant.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don't go that far. Just put them into a cage. Or preferably in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> jungle.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think we're working towards different goals.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Goals? Wait... you are *not* experimenting on humans, are you?
>>>>>>>>> Keep
>>>>>>>>> _that_ for the professionals, will you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eh. I think it's probably best that this conversation be cut
>>>>>>>> short.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *innocent whistling*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Incidentally, how's JNCOBOY?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty much dead and it's your turn anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Wait. What? Where!? *runs!*
>>>
>>> Hm, I'd thought he'd /fly/...
>>
>> You're thinking of Rupert. There tend to be... problems with
>> maintaining a
>
> Rupert is identical with Refractor?

Correct.

>> sagely appearance when one is running as fast as one's legs can carry
>> one.
>> Wearing a robe doesn't help, either.
>
> Marcus speaking?

Not exactly; officially, the Triad speaking. In regards to this specific
case, when we partake in different (albeit metaphorical, the entire
situation also explainable by simple usage of a common phrase) actions but
two of us are partaking in roughly the same action, the actions of the
majority usually determine emotings, in a similar manner to words, emotions,
etc. Granted, we still haven't fully worked out how the system should work.

> You know, maybe I should just call you by your human name. It'd make
> things a lot easier...

The name associated with the human body that we now inhabit--and,
presumably, have always inhabited--means nothing to us other than as a
misapplied label. The term 'Triad' may also be an arbitrary impersonal
label, but at least it means something concrete.

--
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On 2005-03-17, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd3eav0.bbt.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>> On 2005-03-15, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>> news:slrnd3be6b.gep.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x8.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ey? Oh, yes. Abandon human children below the age of four
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, and they wouldn't grow up building skyscrapers and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> railroads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haha, very funny. [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erm...? We were serious. Assume that the children survived,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As if skyscrapers and railroads were a measure of things...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All right, human children raised by nomadic aliens on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an inactive nuclear power plant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't go that far. Just put them into a cage. Or preferably in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> jungle.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think we're working towards different goals.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Goals? Wait... you are *not* experimenting on humans, are you?
>>>>>>>>>> Keep
>>>>>>>>>> _that_ for the professionals, will you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eh. I think it's probably best that this conversation be cut
>>>>>>>>> short.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *innocent whistling*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Incidentally, how's JNCOBOY?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty much dead and it's your turn anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wait. What? Where!? *runs!*
>>>>
>>>> Hm, I'd thought he'd /fly/...
>>>
>>> You're thinking of Rupert. There tend to be... problems with
>>> maintaining a
>>
>> Rupert is identical with Refractor?
>
> Correct.
>
>>> sagely appearance when one is running as fast as one's legs can carry
>>> one.
>>> Wearing a robe doesn't help, either.
>>
>> Marcus speaking?
>
> Not exactly; officially, the Triad speaking. In regards to this specific
> case, when we partake in different (albeit metaphorical, the entire
> situation also explainable by simple usage of a common phrase) actions but
> two of us are partaking in roughly the same action, the actions of the
> majority usually determine emotings, in a similar manner to words, emotions,
> etc. Granted, we still haven't fully worked out how the system should work.
>
>> You know, maybe I should just call you by your human name. It'd make
>> things a lot easier...
>
> The name associated with the human body that we now inhabit--and,
> presumably, have always inhabited--means nothing to us other than as a
> misapplied label. The term 'Triad' may also be an arbitrary impersonal
> label, but at least it means something concrete.

Sometimes I wonder if you are really like that or just pretending...
--
emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

Official AGC feedback maniac

"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

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"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> On 2005-03-17, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd3eav0.bbt.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>> On 2005-03-15, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:slrnd3be6b.gep.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x8.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ey? Oh, yes. Abandon human children below the age of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> four
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, and they wouldn't grow up building skyscrapers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> railroads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haha, very funny. [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erm...? We were serious. Assume that the children
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> survived,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As if skyscrapers and railroads were a measure of things...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All right, human children raised by nomadic aliens on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an inactive nuclear power plant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't go that far. Just put them into a cage. Or preferably in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jungle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we're working towards different goals.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Goals? Wait... you are *not* experimenting on humans, are you?
>>>>>>>>>>> Keep
>>>>>>>>>>> _that_ for the professionals, will you?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eh. I think it's probably best that this conversation be cut
>>>>>>>>>> short.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *innocent whistling*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Incidentally, how's JNCOBOY?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pretty much dead and it's your turn anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wait. What? Where!? *runs!*
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm, I'd thought he'd /fly/...
>>>>
>>>> You're thinking of Rupert. There tend to be... problems with
>>>> maintaining a
>>>
>>> Rupert is identical with Refractor?
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>>>> sagely appearance when one is running as fast as one's legs can carry
>>>> one.
>>>> Wearing a robe doesn't help, either.
>>>
>>> Marcus speaking?
>>
>> Not exactly; officially, the Triad speaking. In regards to this specific
>> case, when we partake in different (albeit metaphorical, the entire
>> situation also explainable by simple usage of a common phrase) actions
>> but
>> two of us are partaking in roughly the same action, the actions of the
>> majority usually determine emotings, in a similar manner to words,
>> emotions,
>> etc. Granted, we still haven't fully worked out how the system should
>> work.
>>
>>> You know, maybe I should just call you by your human name. It'd make
>>> things a lot easier...
>>
>> The name associated with the human body that we now inhabit--and,
>> presumably, have always inhabited--means nothing to us other than as a
>> misapplied label. The term 'Triad' may also be an arbitrary impersonal
>> label, but at least it means something concrete.
>
> Sometimes I wonder if you are really like that or just pretending...

Honestly, we sometimes wonder the same thing--are we actually thinking, or
do we just think we think? Or to put it more directly, are we one mind,
self-deluded into believing that it's three? And how would we tell the
difference?

One thing that we /can/ claim with full certainty and honesty is that we
aren't pretending in a deceptive
hee-hee-hee-oh-this-is-so-funny-the-poor-idiots sort of way. Then again, if
we were we probably wouldn't say that we were (and would probably say that
'I'/we weren't), but, even if we can't prove the truth in that respect,
we're aware of it.

Genuine insanity... or mediocre delusion. One of the two. Only in the
case of the first one could we, as we perceive ourselves, truly be said to
exist; yet how would one tell the difference? How does a self-deluded mind
identify its delusion, if such exists?

Augh.

--
The Triad
User of 'Thingamajig!'
Refractor Dragon -=(UDIC)=-

 

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On 2005-03-18, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd3k07i.g0h.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>> *turns large open-ended fusion reactor in your direction*
>>
>> What's an open ended fusion reactor? And how it thought to work?
>> ::genuinely curious::
>
> Er... *minds whirr* The basic idea is that you take a fusion react, tilt
> it (possibly by redesigning it slightly), open the end tilted slightly
> upwards to the air, and build in something, possibly involving hydraulic
> thingamajigs and airlocks, but definitely involving some sort of pressure,
> to shoot material out the other end continuously at a high velocity.
> Plasma, maybe? *thinks* Hmm.

You're confusing me. And I don't think anything open ended could really
work as a fusion reactor. There's a good reason to built them circular.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure Jule Verne's Nautilus didn't sound very likely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What? And as a note, intelligences on the lines of SHODAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /do/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound reasonably likely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I must be living in another dimension...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe you know something that we don't.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm just suffering of reality.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thingamajig. *tries to decipher*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I meant it literally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suffering... of... reality? /What?/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, you'd probably never had that happen to you...
>>>>>
>>>>> Could be. Honestly, we have no idea what you're talking about.
>>>>
>>>> You know sometimes life demands your attention. Not everything is fun
>>>> and games. And I found maths have a very... sobering effect on me.
>>>
>>> Hm. ('has'.)
>>>
>>> And... 'suffering of reality'...?
>>
>> I've been exposed to it. It has some very (sobering) side effects...
>
> Um. Would that be 'the suffering of reality'?

I think so. But can you really trust me on this one?
--
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"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

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On 2005-03-18, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd3k09t.g0h.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>> You know, maybe I should just call you by your human name. It'd make
>>>> things a lot easier...
>>>
>>> The name associated with the human body that we now inhabit--and,
>>> presumably, have always inhabited--means nothing to us other than as a
>>> misapplied label. The term 'Triad' may also be an arbitrary impersonal
>>> label, but at least it means something concrete.
>>
>> Sometimes I wonder if you are really like that or just pretending...
>
> Honestly, we sometimes wonder the same thing--are we actually thinking, or
> do we just think we think? Or to put it more directly, are we one mind,
> self-deluded into believing that it's three? And how would we tell the
> difference?
>
> One thing that we /can/ claim with full certainty and honesty is that we
> aren't pretending in a deceptive
> hee-hee-hee-oh-this-is-so-funny-the-poor-idiots sort of way. Then again, if
> we were we probably wouldn't say that we were (and would probably say that
> 'I'/we weren't), but, even if we can't prove the truth in that respect,
> we're aware of it.
>
> Genuine insanity... or mediocre delusion. One of the two. Only in the
> case of the first one could we, as we perceive ourselves, truly be said to
> exist; yet how would one tell the difference? How does a self-deluded mind
> identify its delusion, if such exists?
>
> Augh.

I think the only kind of person to *really* figure that out would be a
mind care professional...
--
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(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

Official AGC feedback maniac

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"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

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"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:slrnd3ljis.23u.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x7.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
> On 2005-03-18, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd3k07i.g0h.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>> *turns large open-ended fusion reactor in your direction*
>>>
>>> What's an open ended fusion reactor? And how it thought to work?
>>> ::genuinely curious::
>>
>> Er... *minds whirr* The basic idea is that you take a fusion react,
>> tilt
>> it (possibly by redesigning it slightly), open the end tilted slightly
>> upwards to the air, and build in something, possibly involving hydraulic
>> thingamajigs and airlocks, but definitely involving some sort of
>> pressure,
>> to shoot material out the other end continuously at a high velocity.
>> Plasma, maybe? *thinks* Hmm.
>
> You're confusing me. And I don't think anything open ended could really
> work as a fusion reactor. There's a good reason to built them circular.

Ah, well. *just dumps plasma on you*

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure Jule Verne's Nautilus didn't sound very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What? And as a note, intelligences on the lines of SHODAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /do/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound reasonably likely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I must be living in another dimension...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe you know something that we don't.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm just suffering of reality.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thingamajig. *tries to decipher*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I meant it literally.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Suffering... of... reality? /What?/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, you'd probably never had that happen to you...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could be. Honestly, we have no idea what you're talking about.
>>>>>
>>>>> You know sometimes life demands your attention. Not everything is fun
>>>>> and games. And I found maths have a very... sobering effect on me.
>>>>
>>>> Hm. ('has'.)
>>>>
>>>> And... 'suffering of reality'...?
>>>
>>> I've been exposed to it. It has some very (sobering) side effects...
>>
>> Um. Would that be 'the suffering of reality'?
>
> I think so. But can you really trust me on this one?

We're just going to keep prodding you until you make sense. To insert the
'the'... 'No, I'm just the suffering of reality'. Is that correct?

--
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User of 'Thingamajig!'
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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:slrnd3ljmr.23u.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x7.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
> On 2005-03-18, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd3k09t.g0h.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>> You know, maybe I should just call you by your human name. It'd make
>>>>> things a lot easier...
>>>>
>>>> The name associated with the human body that we now inhabit--and,
>>>> presumably, have always inhabited--means nothing to us other than as a
>>>> misapplied label. The term 'Triad' may also be an arbitrary impersonal
>>>> label, but at least it means something concrete.
>>>
>>> Sometimes I wonder if you are really like that or just pretending...
>>
>> Honestly, we sometimes wonder the same thing--are we actually thinking,
>> or
>> do we just think we think? Or to put it more directly, are we one mind,
>> self-deluded into believing that it's three? And how would we tell the
>> difference?
>>
>> One thing that we /can/ claim with full certainty and honesty is that we
>> aren't pretending in a deceptive
>> hee-hee-hee-oh-this-is-so-funny-the-poor-idiots sort of way. Then again,
>> if
>> we were we probably wouldn't say that we were (and would probably say
>> that
>> 'I'/we weren't), but, even if we can't prove the truth in that respect,
>> we're aware of it.
>>
>> Genuine insanity... or mediocre delusion. One of the two. Only in the
>> case of the first one could we, as we perceive ourselves, truly be said
>> to
>> exist; yet how would one tell the difference? How does a self-deluded
>> mind
>> identify its delusion, if such exists?
>>
>> Augh.
>
> I think the only kind of person to *really* figure that out would be a
> mind care professional...

*nods* Our main concern is that if such a professional diagnosed us, one
way or the other, he/she would likely try to 'cure' us, and then if all
other means were unavailable we would likely have to kill him/her, and
that's something that we definitely want to avoid having to do if possible.
Happily, we've been trying to look into the profession and that imagined
senario is looking increasingly unlikely, but we still don't want to take
any unnecessary chances if there's still the possibility that things could
get ugly.

--
The Triad
User of 'Thingamajig!'
Refractor Dragon -=(UDIC)=-

 

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On 2005-03-19, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd3ljis.23u.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x7.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>> On 2005-03-18, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>> news:slrnd3k07i.g0h.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>> *turns large open-ended fusion reactor in your direction*
>>>>
>>>> What's an open ended fusion reactor? And how it thought to work?
>>>> ::genuinely curious::
>>>
>>> Er... *minds whirr* The basic idea is that you take a fusion react,
>>> tilt
>>> it (possibly by redesigning it slightly), open the end tilted slightly
>>> upwards to the air, and build in something, possibly involving hydraulic
>>> thingamajigs and airlocks, but definitely involving some sort of
>>> pressure,
>>> to shoot material out the other end continuously at a high velocity.
>>> Plasma, maybe? *thinks* Hmm.
>>
>> You're confusing me. And I don't think anything open ended could really
>> work as a fusion reactor. There's a good reason to built them circular.
>
> Ah, well. *just dumps plasma on you*

Good thing I wear plasma proof armour...
BTW you can't *dump* plasma. It's gaseous, you know.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure Jule Verne's Nautilus didn't sound very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What? And as a note, intelligences on the lines of SHODAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /do/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound reasonably likely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I must be living in another dimension...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe you know something that we don't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm just suffering of reality.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thingamajig. *tries to decipher*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I meant it literally.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Suffering... of... reality? /What?/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, you'd probably never had that happen to you...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could be. Honestly, we have no idea what you're talking about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know sometimes life demands your attention. Not everything is fun
>>>>>> and games. And I found maths have a very... sobering effect on me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm. ('has'.)
>>>>>
>>>>> And... 'suffering of reality'...?
>>>>
>>>> I've been exposed to it. It has some very (sobering) side effects...
>>>
>>> Um. Would that be 'the suffering of reality'?
>>
>> I think so. But can you really trust me on this one?
>
> We're just going to keep prodding you until you make sense. To insert the
> 'the'... 'No, I'm just the suffering of reality'. Is that correct?

iCan't quite follow you here? You mean "suffering of _the_ reality"?
--
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(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

Official AGC feedback maniac

"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

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On 2005-03-19, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd3ljmr.23u.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x7.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>> Sometimes I wonder if you are really like that or just pretending...
>>>
>>> Honestly, we sometimes wonder the same thing--are we actually thinking,
>>> or
>>> do we just think we think? Or to put it more directly, are we one mind,
>>> self-deluded into believing that it's three? And how would we tell the
>>> difference?
>>>
>>> One thing that we /can/ claim with full certainty and honesty is that we
>>> aren't pretending in a deceptive
>>> hee-hee-hee-oh-this-is-so-funny-the-poor-idiots sort of way. Then again,
>>> if
>>> we were we probably wouldn't say that we were (and would probably say
>>> that
>>> 'I'/we weren't), but, even if we can't prove the truth in that respect,
>>> we're aware of it.
>>>
>>> Genuine insanity... or mediocre delusion. One of the two. Only in the
>>> case of the first one could we, as we perceive ourselves, truly be said
>>> to
>>> exist; yet how would one tell the difference? How does a self-deluded
>>> mind
>>> identify its delusion, if such exists?
>>>
>>> Augh.
>>
>> I think the only kind of person to *really* figure that out would be a
>> mind care professional...
>
> *nods* Our main concern is that if such a professional diagnosed us, one
> way or the other, he/she would likely try to 'cure' us, and then if all
> other means were unavailable we would likely have to kill him/her, and

What for?!

> that's something that we definitely want to avoid having to do if possible.

It's *always* possible. It's your free choice.

> Happily, we've been trying to look into the profession and that imagined
> senario is looking increasingly unlikely, but we still don't want to take
> any unnecessary chances if there's still the possibility that things could
> get ugly.

Life. It already *is* ugly to a point.
--
emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

Official AGC feedback maniac

"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:slrnd3nvju.cmn.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x7.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
> On 2005-03-19, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd3ljis.23u.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x7.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>> On 2005-03-18, The Triad <wanderer@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:slrnd3k07i.g0h.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>> *turns large open-ended fusion reactor in your direction*
>>>>>
>>>>> What's an open ended fusion reactor? And how it thought to work?
>>>>> ::genuinely curious::
>>>>
>>>> Er... *minds whirr* The basic idea is that you take a fusion react,
>>>> tilt
>>>> it (possibly by redesigning it slightly), open the end tilted slightly
>>>> upwards to the air, and build in something, possibly involving
>>>> hydraulic
>>>> thingamajigs and airlocks, but definitely involving some sort of
>>>> pressure,
>>>> to shoot material out the other end continuously at a high velocity.
>>>> Plasma, maybe? *thinks* Hmm.
>>>
>>> You're confusing me. And I don't think anything open ended could really
>>> work as a fusion reactor. There's a good reason to built them circular.
>>
>> Ah, well. *just dumps plasma on you*
>
> Good thing I wear plasma proof armour...
> BTW you can't *dump* plasma. It's gaseous, you know.

Well, if you have enough of it...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure Jule Verne's Nautilus didn't sound very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What? And as a note, intelligences on the lines of SHODAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /do/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound reasonably likely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I must be living in another dimension...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe you know something that we don't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm just suffering of reality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thingamajig. *tries to decipher*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I meant it literally.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Suffering... of... reality? /What?/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, you'd probably never had that happen to you...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could be. Honestly, we have no idea what you're talking about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know sometimes life demands your attention. Not everything is
>>>>>>> fun
>>>>>>> and games. And I found maths have a very... sobering effect on me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hm. ('has'.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And... 'suffering of reality'...?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been exposed to it. It has some very (sobering) side effects...
>>>>
>>>> Um. Would that be 'the suffering of reality'?
>>>
>>> I think so. But can you really trust me on this one?
>>
>> We're just going to keep prodding you until you make sense. To insert
>> the
>> 'the'... 'No, I'm just the suffering of reality'. Is that correct?
>
> iCan't quite follow you here? You mean "suffering of _the_ reality"?

....we have absolutely no idea what you've been trying to say. Sorry.

--
The Triad
User of 'Thingamajig!'
Refractor Dragon -=(UDIC)=-