ARM CEO Still Hopeful About Windows RT

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Overall I enjoyed my time owning a Surface tablet and would recommend one to everyone... apart fron one thing...

-It's not the fact that the store might not have as many apps as the competition (Doesn't bother me)
-It's not a super high resolution (As that's pretty much marketing crap to get you)

It's simply playing video. If MS was serious it would have, somehow, released a fully capable media app. We're talking support for just about every media codec out there. Hurry up vlc!
 
Am I the only one with troubles loading the home page?
Man, every freakin time I want to check Tom's there is a freeze when loading, Chrome becomes absolutely non responsive. That didn't happen before, its annoying. Its either too many ads or your code is all messy.

Either way, I cant see why the Surface couldn't be a success, just not now, it needs more improvements... maybe next gen.
 
I've used the Win RT tablet a few times, since an auntie got one.

The mix of "desktop windows" and "modern/metro" in it is quite interesting. The features are nice and very windows like, except for the gestures. I had to google some gestures to do some things I couldn't find right away (like closing an app), but the overall experience is very windows like at its core, which is not a bad thing at all.

Now, Microsoft could be a little less greedy and ship full OfficeRT with every surface sold. For the price alone, it's quite good to have in it's full version.

Overall, if you don't have any OS preference and feel at home with Windows, the tablet could be a good buy. Albeit, I still think it's overpriced by a lot. Build quality is also very good, by the way, but the display looks to be kind of fragile.

Cheers!
 
Translation - it took us this long to get our RT tablet into production and it's to late to stop it now so we will push on at least long enough to sell out our inventory.
 
Its kinda weird, but in the past few months I have seen a lot more people with Surface tablets than with iPads. Microsoft seems to be taking the underdog status from Apple making them 'cool' again. Recently, most of the tablets I've seen have been Surface Pro models.
 
I've got two friends with surface rt's and a co-worker with the new hp atom based win8 pro tablet.
They might not be selling like crazy, but they are out there. I intend to buy a 2nd gen win 8 tablet.
 
Actually Android is been available for the x86 processor for quite some time now. Examples include the Motorola XT890 and BlueStacks for Windows. Android is also available for the MIPS processor.
 
The biggest issue thus far seems to be that it's a Windows environment that isn't compatible with x86-based Windows software.
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Duh.... that is because WindowsRT is not a Windows OS. It looks like one... but its not. And what the F does "RT" mean... from a marketing standpoint... it all stupid.

Everything that MS does lately is plain stupid. From concept to retail... its all ugly greedy mess. The desktopUI is ugly (WIn8 preview 8400 looks cool), the changed the Metro name to something else... thinking that renaming a turd will make it taste better. The changing of Office licenses...

Just picked up Office 2010 std. for $240, which can be installed on TWO PCs at the same time, can be re-installed when such PCs are retired/replaced/etc.... vs. Office 2013 which is $220... for only the PC you DL and installed it to. ie: If your 4month old PC notebook dies/stolen.... too bad, you MUST spend $220 for another Office 2013 license key.

Really Microsoft... just die already.
 
What's really stupid...spending $240 on office software with so many free alternatives.
 
Microsoft really needs to open up Windows RT to Desktop applications. Of course that means they'll all have to be compiled for ARM, but some of them have been compiled already following the jailbreak.
 
What is really STUPID about your comment is that you are incorrect. For some of my clients, they use OpenOffice. For others... Microsoft. Hell, office 2003 still does pretty much everything I need and is what *I* use on my own systems. What works for YOU doesn't mean it works for everyone else.

At best, OO is almost up to MS-Office 2003. Almost. Even thou it includes a crap load of more goodies. But in the real world, its templates and some operations are substandard and its MS-Office compatibility isn't 100% (nor expected to be). OO Presentation is no Power Point. And OO's Outlook is... oh yeah, OO doesn't even include a BASIC PIM or email client. Some business/people need such features.

I've told O😵rg developers for over 11 damn years that they NEED to make an equivalent to MS-Outlook. Simple. Compare to a spreadsheet or database... a PIM/Mail client should be pretty damn easy. That would have helped OpenOffice big time... but no... nothing. Oh yeah, add something else which has a different UI and support structure. Thunderbird... add-on...?

Is there OO for iOS or Android? Nope, not that I can see.

I don't use or need Outlook... but many of my clients do... and as crappy as it is under the hood, it does its job pretty damn good and there is nobody who has tried to replicate that. But you see... OpenOffice... like many programs made by Programmers for Programmers mentality looks at development "How would *I* like it" - not so much as "How do people in the business or home world need to use it". I've seen this over and over again.

I like OpenOffice... its quite good and its great that Apache has taken over from oracle. But its still not up to Office 2003 standards, much less Office 2010... which has change the UI to make it easier for people to try and use more features.
 
belardo: Mozilla Thunderbird?

Seriously, MS Office has been all downhill since 2003, but 2003 didn't have uber-integration of Excel and Word with Outlook like later versions do, so what's wrong with using Thunderbird as an email client?
 
I just bought a Dell XPS 10. I didn't like the Surface because the warranty was too short and the keyboard was too cheap. The XPS 10 has a nicer dock/keyboard (an actual keyboard, not a 'touch keyboard') with longer battery life included, and a better processor. It also happened to be cheaper, as of yesterday. I'll get it some time next week. Then I'll know if it worth the money. I have plans for it.
 
[citation][nom]belardo[/nom]Duh.... that is because WindowsRT is not a Windows OS. It looks like one... but its not. [/citation]

You might want to check that statement. Windows RT is a full blown version of Windows 8. The only difference is the Kernel for RT and core functions have been re-coded for ARM CPU's. I have a Surface RT and can tell it is just as functional as Windows 8 x86 (minus some small features that are missing). Only problem is that there is no software written for ARM on Windows. There is absolutely nothing stopping it from working like normal windows.

Also you should have waited on office. You can get office 2013 STD with 5 installs for $99 per year.
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/home-premium/
 
So by such stuPid numbers game... Win95 kicks ass? What about xp-mce? ME isn't even a number version ... Kinda. MS is on track to continue with Metro.

@SGTgimpy: WinRT does not run x86 software, at that point... You might as well use android or iOS. What they tried to do is understandable. But the win8 GUI design and execution is shit. I've trie to like win8... It's just NOT WORTH IT. A lot of everything that MS does lately makes MS a stupid company. Office 2013 pricing is a ripoff. Period.

I even snapped back at someone who "likes" win8 when he told me "it's not so bad". WTF? There is something seriously fracking wrong when the people, while support your product says things like that!
 
@cloud_uber_dork: thunderbird *is NOT* and outlook class program. It's an email client, nothing more. Again... You are not seeing the business mentality of the real world. Hence, those who are in charge of OpenOffice has been and continue to be fracking idiots in my book.
 
In some decades, when wild life will be a pale memory of the past and "flogging a dead horse" would lose grip on our imagination, it will be probably replaced by "being hopeful on WinRT".
 
Why Microsoft chose to release Windows RT, I will never know. I like Windows 8 and the new direction Microsoft is going towards, but there doesn't seem to be any valid reasons for Windows RT. If they wanted to get in on the ARM tablet market, why not make a version of Windows Phone which works on tablets like what Apple does with the iOS? At the moment, Windows Phone apps don't work on Windows RT or Windows 8, standard Windows 8 apps don't work on Windows RT or Windows Phone, and Windows RT apps can only run Windows Store apps. They've essentially built three platforms which are independent from one another. It's like they want to go bankrupt.
 
[citation][nom]AndreT[/nom]I have yet to see any surface tablet in the wild.[/citation]
Same. I have only ever seen them in a store.
 
I wouldn't touch one of these with a pair of oven mitts!!! Actually I have looked at these in the Microsoft store and tried them for a while, but I have a couple of W7 I7s at home, and the Surface couldn't hold a candle to either one of my existing computers. When you have been used to using a wireless mouse and keyboard on an O/S that you are comfortable with, trying to use the devices in the stores that have those mouse pads can be an exercise in futility. To most W7 users, W8 is like a cold shower. I surely don't want a computer that is going to make my everyday experience more difficult. Wake me up when W8 becomes a big seller!!!!
 
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