Discussion Arrow Lake: A Great Generation?

[jnjnilson6]

Lately built a config with my French friend.

Box: Be Quiet Pure Base 500 - Gray Metal
PC Box Fans: Preinstalled Plus x3 Be Quiet! Pure Wings 3 140mm PWM high-speed
CPU: Intel Core Ultra 7 265K
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S
Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z890P
RAM: Corsair 64 GB DDR5 @ 5200 MHz
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX 7800 XT
SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 1 TB
PSU: Cooler Master 1200W
Screen: Dell U2724D UltraSharp 27" QHD

My friend's an animator and the new PC runs wonders. It's absolutely stable and perfectly performant and fast. Temperatures are around 70 C through great exertion and the system flourishes. From this experience I do believe that Arrow Lake is not at all as bad as it is painted, but rather a stable generation with quite a few improvements over 13th and 14th gen (lower temperature, higher stability, incredible rendering performance).

Do share your opinions. I do think that all negative aspects of the generation are far overblown on the Internet as of current. It really is so stable and good the mindset is reverted to Intel's golden generations like Sandy Bridge and the aspiring enthusiastic quality which'd made Intel one of the best options for decades.

 

[QyInvoLing]

"Stable" is a basic feature for every CPU, it's not ARL to be praised but 13/14th to be blamed.
ARL is awful in gaming, but for your friend's workloads it's not bad. To be honest, it's nice for animators once it's price is lower than AMD's combo.
It's sad that in China 285k is 50$ more expensive than 9950x, and the LGA1851 motherboards are also expensive than AM5 boards, so there's no reason for buying an ultra 200s platform. Is it the same in France? If 285k's build is 100-200$ cheaper than 9950x's, I'll definitely pick it.

 

[QyInvoLing]

Remember that there's no trash-like products but only trash-like price. 245k is 1999 yuan now in China, 50% more expensive than 14600kf (1200 yuan), and a bit more expensive than 9700x, which caused it become a trash. If it's only 1300 yuan or even less, I'll call 14600kf trash.

 

[jnjnilson6]

"Stable" is a basic feature for every CPU, it's not ARL to be praised but 13/14th to be blamed.
ARL is awful in gaming, but for your friend's workloads it's not bad. To be honest, it's nice for animators once it's price is lower than AMD's combo.
It's sad that in China 285k is 50$ more expensive than 9950x, and the LGA1851 motherboards are also expensive than AM5 boards, so there's no reason for buying an ultra 200s platform. Is it the same in France? If 285k's build is 100-200$ cheaper than 9950x's, I'll definitely pick it.

682.00 EUR for the Intel Core Ultra 9 285K
672.92 EUR for the Ryzen 9 9950X

Those are the lowest prices at the French site idealo.fr .

 

[Gururu]

Mostly read gaming tech reviews which harped on the generation hard. By all accounts it is a solid product, but because Raptor got beat down and priced to match, hard to push Arrow. Raptor right now is a beautiful value because the fixes worked. Obviously if you are gaming, AMD all the way. If I was buying for family and friends for pc work activities, would be Raptor. If I was buying for my company would be Arrow.

 

[Why_Me]

Lately built a config with my French friend.

Box: Be Quiet Pure Base 500 - Gray Metal
PC Box Fans: Preinstalled Plus x3 Be Quiet! Pure Wings 3 140mm PWM high-speed
CPU: Intel Core Ultra 7 265K
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S
Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z890P
RAM: Corsair 64 GB DDR5 @ 5200 MHz
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX 7800 XT
SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 1 TB
PSU: Cooler Master 1200W
Screen: Dell U2724D UltraSharp 27" QHD

My friend's an animator and the new PC runs wonders. It's absolutely stable and perfectly performant and fast. Temperatures are around 70 C through great exertion and the system flourishes. From this experience I do believe that Arrow Lake is not at all as bad as it is painted, but rather a stable generation with quite a few improvements over 13th and 14th gen (lower temperature, higher stability, incredible rendering performance).

Do share your opinions. I do think that all negative aspects of the generation are far overblown on the Internet as of current. It really is so stable and good the mindset is reverted to Intel's golden generations like Sandy Bridge and the aspiring enthusiastic quality which'd made Intel one of the best options for decades.

Look at a less expensive B860 board.

 

[jnjnilson6]

Look at a less expensive B860 board.

We built it in the very beginning of January 2025; the first few days. So the Z890 chipset seemed the only option on Amazon and a worthwhile option too, at the time.

Thank you for sharing! 👍

I even remember the motherboard could originally harbor 4x48 GB DDR5, but with a little bit of time those specs changed to 4x64 GB DDR5 (256 GB) in total. As time moves along many new deals surrounding the LGA 1851 socket will spring up surely.