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Intel could have made the new boards compatible with the older processors by simply putting the clock generator on the cpu, like they used to.
But then they wouldn't be able to bend you over for another $200 as they do every year.
 
That would make the processor compatible with the motherboard, but not the motherboard compatible with the processor.

There is a page somewhere that explains this quite well... (I've lost it in all my tabs 😛).
 
The only people saying good things about Asrock products are people Asrock pays to do this. Asrock? Seriously who would buy this stuff? I hope its cheap so you can replace it later when you realize this is utter junk....
 
ASRock does not pay me. I use their products because every mobo I ever got from them has worked out of the box; not even BIOS updates or special tweaking needed. Unlike Gigabyte or Biostar, none have died yet. I've read about their weak[er] VRMs; if I wanted a high OC I'd probably buy Asus, but since my OCs are mild, ASRock is perfectly suitable.
 
Thanks for the article... Reminds me why I don't like Intel... and my next upgrade will have me going back to AMD, I do like their chipset feature sets over intel.

Even with the P3x series, Intel does things that throws use user into a loop, mixture of old tech not working correctly, etc or degraded performance.

[citation][nom]bombat1994[/nom]my current comp is a pentium 4 3.0Ghz and a radeon 9800 pro, 1 GB ddr ram and 80GB hardrive.it might be time to upgrade. my gaming is limited to counter strike source and half life 2[/citation]

Geeez... that is soooo old and slow. The PC my 6yr old son uses is far more powerful... :) He has a dual core AMD, Geforce 8600GT. I used to play HL2 on my 9800Pro (loved that card).

Todays $50 AMD CPU and a $100 video card would be like 4x faster than what you have now... and thats considered LOW-END stuff. So a good $100~200 CPU is a good mid-range and look at a $170~200 ATI or nVidia card... personally, I'd go with the 6850 for about $170.

I want to upgrade off my intel quad core... as todays intel dual cores are faster, but I gotta wait and see what Bulldozer has to offer.
 
[citation][nom]joytech22[/nom]Or DVD/CD/BD/BDXL/Litescribe as well?????[/citation]

You see, this is why the technology failed, it forgot to include Labelflash!
 
I read it twice and am confused.

I don't understand why you show each CPU/Mobo combo with intel SATA, NEC USB 3.0, and EJ168A USB 3.0. Where you attaching the SSD drive to each of these controllers for the test (using it as an external drive for the USB 3.0 tests)? I don't see any USB device(s) in the test setup.
 
[citation][nom]DXRick[/nom]I read it twice and am confused. I don't understand why you show each CPU/Mobo combo with intel SATA, NEC USB 3.0, and EJ168A USB 3.0. Where you attaching the SSD drive to each of these controllers for the test (using it as an external drive for the USB 3.0 tests)? I don't see any USB device(s) in the test setup.[/citation]

+1 to this. I'm also a little confused there XD

Good article as usual.

Cheers!
 
Bloody Intel, if I could have just dropped a new processor into my existing system, they would have gotten another $200-300 from me in the next few months. But with a motherboard upgrade necessary its just not worth it, especially the time to format / install again. So instead I'm probably going to wait 12 months or so before upgrading.
 
[citation][nom]reynod[/nom]kcorp While I would have agreed with you if you said it is not worthwhile pgrading from 65nm Core2 to 45nm Core2 ... or even Nehalem, I do really think jumping from an early core2 65nm or AMD1 based system to a 2600K is a good proposition now, and the gains are good.I tend to want to wait a bit to see if the quad drops in price a bit though.I just hope Intel release some kind of bios flash to allow QS to run with a discrete card ... then I am there.[/citation]


My CPU is a Q9550 C1 stepping and its a 45nm chip. Not 65nm.
 
[citation][nom]xxsk8er101xx[/nom]I dunno why you would buy this. Mixing technology never works.[/citation]
May I point out the fact that the VERY computer you used to post on this website is a "Mixing" of technology. So is the vehicle you drive, the roads you drive on and many, many other items you use in your everyday life. Must be nice to live in ignorance /sarcasm
 
[citation][nom]Nekromobo[/nom]anyone asked or answered if there's any real need for these i5-750 or k2500/k2600 if you have lga775 3.2-3.6ghz core2quad.500-1k update for few measly fps, no thanks.I know power is some concern but the new mobo+cpu will eat power too no matter how you look at it.[/citation]

Exactly my thoughts, it's cool n' all, great energy marks, but really it's not like going from P4 to C2D.
 
If you're hardcore like me you upgrade without regard for money, regardless of how insignificant the gain is. I'm going to buy a P67 mobo just so I can move my i5-750 onto it, then throw it in the garbage when I get an i7-2600k.

/sarcasm :)
 
Waste of tech, eh? In the garbage... 😉

Then again, yep... some people are like that. Spend an $1000 to gain 10fps... above already getting 120fps in 1920x1080.
 
Since the article is about the motherboard and chipset technology you would then assume what I'm talking about is motherboards and chipsets technology not mixing very well. I don't know where you people got blu-ray and whatever it is you're talking about. Reading comprehension fail on your part.

I know from experience that this doesn't work very well. It's not ignorance but ignorance on your part for never being in IT and experiencing this issue first hand.

[citation][nom]James296[/nom]May I point out the fact that the VERY computer you used to post on this website is a "Mixing" of technology. So is the vehicle you drive, the roads you drive on and many, many other items you use in your everyday life. Must be nice to live in ignorance /sarcasm[/citation]
 
[citation][nom]xxsk8er101xx[/nom]Since the article is about the motherboard and chipset technology you would then assume what I'm talking about is motherboards and chipsets technology not mixing very well.

I know from experience that this doesn't work very well. It's not ignorance but ignorance on your part for never being in IT and experiencing this issue first hand.[/citation]

Mixing motherboard and chipset techs has worked very well in the past (AM2+ -> AM3) and not-so-well, but nobody in an IT job would run into this. That is the OEM's role for business computers. Technician at a computer shop... Does that count as an IT job?
 
Ok so you're talking about AMD I'm talking about Intel.

[citation][nom]Taft12[/nom]Mixing motherboard and chipset techs has worked very well in the past (AM2+ -> AM3) and not-so-well, but nobody in an IT job would run into this. That is the OEM's role for business computers. Technician at a computer shop... Does that count as an IT job?[/citation]
 
[citation][nom]xxsk8er101xx[/nom]Since the article is about the motherboard and chipset technology you would then assume what I'm talking about is motherboards and chipsets technology not mixing very well. I don't know where you people got blu-ray and whatever it is you're talking about. Reading comprehension fail on your part.I know from experience that this doesn't work very well. It's not ignorance but ignorance on your part for never being in IT and experiencing this issue first hand.[/citation]

1. I point out the fact that your post said,I quote, "Mixing technology never works" this is a broad meaning thus the response. Now add, "in motherboards" which makes the sentence more specific to what your talking about. the Result being, "Mixing of technology in motherboards never works". now is that not better and you would have not of gotten the kind responses that you have.

2. It's not a fail at reading comprehension when it is not properly writen in the first place.

3. As I'm writing this, I see you failed (again) at being specific (or adding detail) with your post/s. if you were talking about intel then please add intel to your paragraph.

4. if your IT, did you not have to take an english course in college? This is assuming that you have gone to college and been certified as an IT.

5. no, I have not experienced it but I have seen the results. if I may add, that it's really just a 50/50 chance and hoping that it lands heads up.
 
First, thank you very much for this article TH. I always learn something from every article. I'm buying a whole new system, WTF. No wife, no kids, no dog, no morgage... no problem. Choices people, just choices. :)

Damn, I'm after the stupid clothing sale! 😉
 
I do not see how it is logical to upgrade a motherboard just to add 1 or 2 features that your current motherboard lacks, while holding on to your current CPU. Adding new features is what Expansion Cards are for! A basic SATA3 and a USB3 card would be a cheaper and easier upgrade to execute. The ONLY time this board can make sense is if your current socket 1156 motherboard dies and then you can get this board so you will not need to waste your still good, usuable and capable CPU :) ...
This board as an upgrade? No.
As a replacement board? Sure!
 
techcurious - right on the nose.

[citation][nom]Taft12[/nom]Mixing motherboard and chipset techs has worked very well in the past (AM2+ -> AM3) and not-so-well,[/citation]

AM2+ > AM3 is a planned and official upgrade path from AMD. Thats a LOT different than taking a chipset such as the P67, add other chips to allow for PATA and PCI slots. One of the problems with the P35 board (and other intels) in which the chipset did away with PATA and a mobo manufacture would ADD a PATA controller because the Optical drive market was still WAY behind getting onboard with SATA.

So... this (A) raised the price and complexity to the board (B) caused compatibility problems if the PATA was used - such as RAID failure or performance problems. Meanwhile, AMD Chipsets *STILL* have native PATA controllers and don't suffer from these issues.

Or some past ASROCK or no-name brand boards in which they'd Frankenstein parts. ie: 486CPU on a 386 chipset, VLB and PCI on same board, AGP with PCIe board (They typically routed the AGP slot into the PCI bus = VERY POOR AGP performance. Only 1 board out there had a real AGP slot with PCIe, kinda $$$), add-on CPU adapters to plug a non-compatible CPU into an older board for more performance (very old school).

In my Amiga days, I did use a CPU adapter to double the performance of the system, and it had a plug in for the original CPU and a switch for compatibility... $50 or so. But some made for PCs were $100~200, but back then you were paying $2000~4000 for a PC desktop, so dropping $500 to use a new type of CPU might have been worth it, even thou the desktop couldn't use the full function of the CPU. That kind of stuff, I never full agreed with.

 
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