News Asus claims its new world’s lightest Copilot+ laptop also boasts 32 hours of battery life — new Zenbook launches at CES 2025

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Asus will be launching a new ultra-thin Zenbook capable of up to 32-hours of battery life

Asus claims its new world’s lightest Copilot+ laptop also boasts 32 hours of battery life — new Zenbook launches at CES 2025 : Read more

 

[OneMoreUser]

Never had anything against long battery life, only now it is starting to be so long I'd prefer less weight and cost ie. smaller batteries.

And as for the Copilot thing, does anyone actually use that? Or for that matter, prefer Windows 11 over Windows 10?

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

Manufacturers could just make laptops an inch thicker and use larger batteries for long life, but heaven forbid laptops not be wafer thin and weigh as little as possible. A little practicality would go a long way in 2024, much more than the huge 9 cell battery I had on my MSI laptop in college that struggled to get 4 hours.

 

[likeacactus]

Yeah... But it'll have w11... So... Nope.
And still not everything runs on arm w11.

Even with more than a day of battery life, is a product to get ignored.

Unless it costs $500 (and that's impossible)

 

[mac_angel]

The industry is really, REALLY pushing Co-Pilot and built in Ai. As far as I know, most people don't want it, unless I'm wrong. Do any PC enthusiast here want these Ai chips built into their PCs and laptops?

 

[newtechldtech]

The industry is really, REALLY pushing Co-Pilot and built in Ai. As far as I know, most people don't want it, unless I'm wrong. Do any PC enthusiast here want these Ai chips built into their PCs and laptops?

Depends .. if future games use it then yes.

 

[mac_angel]

Depends .. if future games use it then yes.

I still can't help but think that's marketing BS. GPUs can handle a lot more TOPS than the built in Ai chips, and next to nothing for resources.

 

[Findecanor]

I will never buy a Copilot PC.
I will never use a CopIlot PC
I will refuse a Copilot PC if given to me.
I will refuse a Copilot PC if asked to use it for work.

 

[jojos_buddy]

COpilot is too generic, they need it specialized to either office, visual studio or outlook, and be very, very specific. As a dev, a copilot that just helps write code functions would be great but this copilot+PC is all over the place/confusing. And I want my CTRL key back.

As for ASUS, if it's CPU is an AMD instead of a snapdragon that would confirm the assertion of return rate of SD PCs.

 

[newtechldtech]

I still can't help but think that's marketing BS. GPUs can handle a lot more TOPS than the built in Ai chips, and next to nothing for resources.

Would free more resources for the GPU, especially mid range ones.

 

[alrighty_then]

I use Copilot daily for work, and it's a huge time saver. However, I use it from the web on my old surface and not on a "Copilot PC." It already answers questions so quickly I don't see the point of the AI chip. It's as if they thought of a marketing gimmick after they already gave away the product for free...

Anyway, an AI chip will likely be part of my future laptop upgrade as Microsoft and others are fully behind the AI push and this won't be going away. I find Copilot useful but don't want it appearing in Windows/Edge/etc when I didn't ask for it, so I had it removed and just use it like any program just when I need it.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

I still can't help but think that's marketing BS. GPUs can handle a lot more TOPS than the built in Ai chips, and next to nothing for resources.

A GPU may be far more capable, but it's also far more power hungry, space hungry, and expensive than a small NPU, and is overkill for "basic" "AI" tasks like Copilot/Gemini and "AI" features in Adobe and other software.

Also to get an entry level dGPU in a laptop, like an RTX 4060M, you're generally looking at over $1000, whereas an NPU can be found on far cheaper models.

 

[mac_angel]

A GPU may be far more capable, but it's also far more power hungry, space hungry, and expensive than a small NPU, and is overkill for "basic" "AI" tasks like Copilot/Gemini and "AI" features in Adobe and other software.

Also to get an entry level dGPU in a laptop, like an RTX 4060M, you're generally looking at over $1000, whereas an NPU can be found on far cheaper models.

and what are the masses using Ai for that requires these special chips? I'd think anyone that requires Ai for business use would be getting something that is far more capable at handling Ai workloads than a simple chip.

 

[mac_angel]

Would free more resources for the GPU, especially mid range ones.

But what are the masses using Ai for that requires these special chips? I'd think anyone that requires Ai for business use would be getting something that is far more capable at handling Ai workloads than a simple chip.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

and what are the masses using Ai for that requires these special chips? I'd think anyone that requires Ai for business use would be getting something that is far more capable at handling Ai workloads than a simple chip.

Tasks which used to rely on the GPU. Adobe programs have some features which use the NPU, HP and Acer, to name two, have gaming features that clean up your audio a la RTX Voice, Zoom and Teams can use the NPU to blur the background and other tasks a la RTX Broadcast, and this is in addition to "AI" tasks like Stable Diffusion and on-device LLMs.

Also remember that plenty of business model laptops only have integrated graphics, like the Lenovo Thinkpad, as well as business desktops.