Asus Gives The GTX 1080 A Strix Overhaul

[Icepilot]

Vega 10 w/HBM2 1Q17. Or at least by July ...

 

[kcarbotte]

Everybody who just bought the Founder's Edition is probably crapping their pants right now. Controllable LEDs that can even adjust based on temperatures, fan controllable ports, better and probably quieter cooling system, the OC version has way better stock clock rates. All $60 cheaper for the OC edition and $80 cheaper for the normal edition.

Nvidia said that partner boards would sell for as low as $599 while Founders edition cards will be $699.
If you're crapping your pants over that, you weren't paying attention to the announcements.

Founders Edition will be easier to watercool, at least for the time being, and the blower coolers are better suited for SLI.
There's reason to go with Founders, but if you don't fit those two niche categories, than an overclocked partner card will be a better choice.

I did pay attention to the announcements, and I know the afermarket cards are cheaper. This is exactly my point: non-founders cards are cheaper and better. I'm not crapping my pants; people who bought the founder's edition are.

Watercooling? What purpose is there to watercool a 180W card like the 1080? Even overclocked heavily it's only 225W, and as testing has shown. Watercooling is a complete gimmick. People cry for more efficient cards then they want to watercool for reasons that don't make sense to me. The only reason to watercool any Pascal GPU is to make the computer look nice and to tell your friends it is watercooled. The days where watercooling had true benefits are practically over; some CPUs may need watercooling for heavy overclocking, like a 5960X, but our modern day GPUs have no problem with air.

I very much disagree with this assessment. There's a reason that GPUs have started coming with closed loop coolers pre-attached. There's also a reason these modern coolers a gigantic, usually with three large fans. Modern GPU's put off significant amounts of heat, and from what I've seen (haven't played wiht a 1080 in person yet) it appears as though the smaller die size (ie: less contact surface with the heatsink) is causing these Pascal GPUs to run rather hot. Water cooling dramatically reduces the overall temperature of your GPU at both idle and load. You may not be able to achieve significantly higher clock speeds with water than you would with air, but you will get to the same or better speeds at much lower temperatures, which in turn results in longer GPU life. Electronics tend to operate better, and for longer periods, when they run at lower temperatures.

But watercooling usually negatively affects the VRMs in terms of heat. The chip itself stays cooler, but all the other stuff on the card gets hotter, depending on how the block is. Some blocks may do very well, but a lot of them leave out some important components to cool; I'd reckon VRMs fail long before the actual graphics processing unit.

It's been a long time since I've seen a GPU block that doesn't contact the VRMs. Most offer direct cooling of the VRMs which is far more than a lot of aircooled cards can say.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Okay, but excluding watercooling, there is no reason to purchase the founder's edition with better cards like the Strix coming out for a cheaper price. Some people say reference is better for blower style coolers, but MSI already announced its Aero card which is blower style; there are non-reference cards that are still blower style and cheaper. Which is why I stand by my statement that people who purchased the reference card (particularly those who don't need blower style cards and don't watercool) are probably slapping themselves in the face for not waiting for an aftermarket card like the Strix.

 

[photonboy]

"The card is mem-capped anyway. The gains per Mhz go down significantly as you edge above 2Ghz. The HBM2 cards will fair a lot better for OCing."

No proof of memory bottleneck.

We can get diminishing returns due to CPU bottlenecking, temperature throttling and other reasons.

We simply don't have enough testing yet to determine where the main limits are. The FOUNDERS did throttle due to temperature fairly easily, so we'll gain a reliable 300MHz in many cases simply due to a better cooler.

Many games throttle to below 1800MHz consistently (especially if your room is hotter than normal). A good liquid cooler might maintain 2500MHz which is almost 40% faster in that case (assuming no other bottleneck of course).

 

[Lord_Sunday123]

Only $20 more for a card with that much overclock, with promised extra headroom? Sign me up ._.

 

[cmi86]

If batman had a GPU...

 

[Rheotome]

HDMI 2.0 or 2.0a or 2.0b ???

 

[fluffycookieman]

Can't wait to get one of these beasts.

 

[innocent bystander]

and the blower coolers are better suited for SLI.

I'm tempted to put a blower style 1070 into my cooler master elite 130 case. I'm a little concerned that an open air cooled card in a small mITX case.

 

[Chickenbutt]

so where can i purchase this on release i live in the us

 

[Buskib]

When can we buy this card?

 

[photonboy]

When can we buy this card?

Keep an eye on pcpartpicker (links stores), amazon, newegg, ncix

You can expect the GTX1080 to be in very high demand for quite a while, but the only one so far at Newegg that isn't a Founders reference model is the Gigabyte G1 though it already sold out (it said "sold out" on one page and "coming soon" on another, so I think it isn't actually available yet (not sold out):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125869&leaderboard=1

Anyway, these cards will slowly start appearing soon. I couldn't find specific dates though.

 

[kcarbotte]

and the blower coolers are better suited for SLI.

I'm tempted to put a blower style 1070 into my cooler master elite 130 case. I'm a little concerned that an open air cooled card in a small mITX case.

That would be a good idea. Blower style fans are much better suited for small compact cases.