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What’s getting gamers so excited about 6 cores? Most games don’t even utilize quad cores let along 6 cores. And for those games that do utilize multicores, the performance gain is minimal (look at the Intel 6 core review). In fact, does anyone actually expect AMD 6 cores to be any faster than i7s with hyper threading which basically acts like 8 cores?

I run both a Q6600 and PII X4 925 and I see no reason to upgrade until 8 cores came out or games actually uses more than cores.
 
You forget that even though the game may not utilize more than one core your system does, every core you add to your system spreads out the additional load off the rest of the cores from the systems basic operations leaving more clock-time dedicated to the game since no matter what core your game uses it still is shared among system tasks. Regardless of what your game utilizes you will always "in general" see an advantage of extended cores "if you use something post xp". Pop open your task manager and go to processes look at how many threads are running and that's split among your processors. It is important to also take into account improvements into the processors architecture not just the additional processing cores.
 
[citation][nom]pei-chen[/nom]What’s getting gamers so excited about 6 cores? Most games don’t even utilize quad cores let along 6 cores. And for those games that do utilize multicores, the performance gain is minimal (look at the Intel 6 core review). In fact, does anyone actually expect AMD 6 cores to be any faster than i7s with hyper threading which basically acts like 8 cores?I run both a Q6600 and PII X4 925 and I see no reason to upgrade until 8 cores came out or games actually uses more than cores.[/citation]

who says all we use it for is games? i encode video on a daily basis and would welcome any 6 core with open arms!

Even if the x6 phenom II wasn't "any faster" than an i7, it's still cheaper than an i7 setup..
 
i found it funny that nobody really cared about the motherboard news here and started foaming at the mouth at that last bit in the article. Goddam AMD im finally going to upgrade my 7750 dual core.
 
[citation][nom]the greater good[/nom]This. If you look at how AMD has done business in the past, it's never really been about offering the fastest CPU. However, AMD has always been a "value" solution. This has been the case since the AMD 486 DX-4 133; a CPU that was proven faster than the first Intel Pentiums. Some might not be old enough to remember the battle between Intel, AMD and Cyrix back in the 486 through Pentium II days. For the record, I'm not a loyalist toward AMD or Intel. I look at price vs. performance. Right now, AMD still has that covered. If they can offer a 6 core CPU for 200 bucks, I'm all in. I should also mention that I do number crunching for the WCG, so cores DO matter.[/citation]



Agree, AMD has had many moments where it saved us all a lot of money with good all round performance!

And yes, I do remember those good times you mention! I'm not only old enough, but the proud owner of a functioning Compaq Presario CDS 720, originally powered by an AMD 486SX2 66Mhz (no math co-processor, no Doom playing), and that motherboard can run a 486DX4 100Mhz, AMD's 5x86 133Mhz (unoficially named 485 DX5, equivalent to a Pentium 75Mhz in integer performance), Cyrix 5x86 100Mhz (more or less a hybrid between a 486 and a Pentium, also equivalent to a P75), and the Pentium Overdrive 83Mhz, whose performance widely varied with the amount of L2 cache installed, but maked out at, again, P75 levels. And I have them all 😀 (bought second hand for pennies or brand new old stock). My favourite all-rounder is the Cyrix 😀
 
[citation][nom]ben850[/nom]2.8 ghz phenom II x6 for 199$????? F me sideways[/citation]
No I'll pass...I am not that kind of a girl.
 

785G motherboards do not have the SB750 southbridge, they have the SB710. I know, they're damn near identical, but there's obviously something about them that's incompatible with these new CPUs.
 
[citation][nom]ben850[/nom]who says all we use it for is games? i encode video on a daily basis and would welcome any 6 core with open arms!Even if the x6 phenom II wasn't "any faster" than an i7, it's still cheaper than an i7 setup..[/citation]
I was only talking about gamers hence "What’s getting gamers so excited about 6 cores?

For your productivity comment; run the numbers again. i7s aren't that expensive so you should definitely check out the benchmarks before jumping.
 
But what I think that why it is so cheap is because maybe it is not really stable and plus, overclocking and overclocking, it is like OMG!! Imagine your motherboard can already be sold to the scrapyard.
 



Low end i7 processors are cheap, but, we are talking about a 6 core variant. The only i7 6-core out on the market is the "Core i7 Extreme-980X" which is around $1200. Considering the fact that the AMD Phenom II X6 will be priced at a $300 or less (before taxes) for the same amount of cores, anyone looking to save money and build a X6 core machine would seriously consider the AMD.

That is 1/4 the cost of the i7-980x with the same amount of cores. Most likely not touching the i7-890x in benchmarks but for anyone who uses all the cores this is awesome news.

I currently run a PII 695 BE with 8GB ram and considering I won't need to buy all new components (bios update for me as I actually have a M4A79 Deluxe) to run a PII-X6 I would be great especially since I personally use it for virtualization (I run like 3 virtual machines) and watching media media stuff.

** Note I agree with you about gaming and I think the PC gaming industry needs to catch up on the usage of cores **
 
well damn this will cut a lot of time of rendering in 3ds max 2010 :) thank god, and at $200, wow thats a great bang for the buck, it seems to me intel dont give a shit about wallets, there 6core will be $1000.
 
You don't have to pay a premium for unlock features. I bought a Gigabyte MA780G-US2H 780G chipset motherboard (w/ SB710 Southbridge) for $68 and it can unlock cores. The key is to have either the SB710 or SB750 because they support ACC. (SB850 now as well.) ACC is what's required for core unlocking. ASUS's Core Unlocker is just a fancy 1-button ACC switch. Gigabyte calls their version Core Control.
 
This board is starting to look like crap for me. Every 3 seconds or so I lag for about 0.2 seconds. I notice it in games, in audio, and when watching the seconds on the system clock. I think it's related to the crappy on board audio. Sometimes disabling all sound devices will fix this other times it doesn't.
 
Welshdragon: Consider starting a thread on the forums regarding your problem. Be sure to include as much detail as possible. (It sounds like you're experiencing what I call graphics "hiccups" which can often be attributed to inadequate power to the CPU or GPU during load.)
 
Good luck with that, mindless. The US website doesn't even list it anymore. You have to go to the Global (English) website to find it listed, and even then there's no specific page for it when you click on that board. They must be in the middle of updating something, because I can't get links to work for lots of ASUS boards no matter what site of theirs I'm on.

Apparently the 790X w/ SB750 and 785G w/ SB710 combos can support Phenom II X6's. Gigabyte released an updated BIOS for two boards I own enabling Phenom II X6 support - the GA-MA790X-UD4P and GA-MA785G-UD3H. Previous thoughts were that X6 support would be limited to 790/890-series northbridges and 750/850-series southbridges...
 
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