athlon 64 VS Semperon

[chuck44]

you can trick the operating system into believing there are tw processors on board so you have one doing one thing and the othe doing someting else.
but the idea behind dual core s is to run them both in tandem like you do with the new video where you run two cards in tandem to achive one out put (SLi) or two hard drive as in a raid array two drives working for one output.

so in short there is no software out there to do this. unless you believe this is to relpace muti processor computers?.

 

[shabodah]

Ok, now I see where you are coming from. You are right in what you are saying, but it is way off from what AMD/Intel are doing. Dual cores are not each doing 50% of the work, no doubt there. But, a single program can be locked to one core (except the OS), or parts of one program can be split to both cores (when this happens it's more likely to be 80%/20% than 50/50%, 50/50 is an ideal that would never happen in programming. See the thread about reverse hyperthreading for what you are thinking.). Yes, dual core systems are meant to replace/supplement dual processor systems.

 

[chuck44]

you can trick the operating system into believing there are tw processors on board so you have one doing one thing and the othe doing someting else.
but the idea behind dual core s is to run them both in tandem like you do with the new video where you run two cards in tandem to achive one out put (SLi) or two hard drive as in a raid array two drives working for one output.

so in short there is no software out there to do this. unless you believe this is to relpace muti processor computers?.

 

[chuck44]

you can trick the operating system into believing there are tw processors on board so you have one doing one thing and the othe doing someting else.
but the idea behind dual core s is to run them both in tandem like you do with the new video where you run two cards in tandem to achive one out put (SLi) or two hard drive as in a raid array two drives working for one output.

so in short there is no software out there to do this. unless you believe this is to relpace muti processor computers?.

 

[chuck44]

sorry for the repeat post my fault!. and thanks for the discussion on the direction cpu's are goin gotta go to my sons trak meet till next folks !.

 

[MU_Engineer]

There are some very viable and relatively mature 64-bit OSes, just not one made by Microsoft. I happen to be typing this from one.

 

[gOJDO]

There are some very viable and relatively mature 64-bit OSes, just not one made by Microsoft. I happen to be typing this from one.

Yeap, and mainstream uses Windows.
Almost no drivers, no apps, no games 64bit compiled, jut like the case for multithreading.

 

[joefriday]

For all that are interested, here's a link showing the difference in performance that more or less L2 cache makes on the k8 (not a whole lot).

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/sempron-2600_5.html

 

[Jebazor]

L2 cache doesn't make that big of a difference. The biggest thing is definitely clock frequency and after that probably core architecture. For multimedia and games, multimedia executions (SSE1,2,&3, 3DNOW) are a good thing to have. In terms of Sempron vs Athlon on socket 754, the Sempron is pretty good, and very cheap. The Sempron 64 in particular (Palermo E6) is VERY easy to overclock with a good mother board.

Semprons don't match Athlons in terms of performance, but with the right price and some overclocking, they can be better than Athlons.

 

[Jebazor]

L2 cache doesn't make that big of a difference. The biggest thing is definitely clock frequency and after that probably core architecture. For multimedia and games, multimedia executions (SSE1,2,&3, 3DNOW) are a good thing to have. In terms of Sempron vs Athlon on socket 754, the Sempron is pretty good, and very cheap. The Sempron 64 in particular (Palermo E6) is VERY easy to overclock with a good mother board.

Semprons don't match Athlons in terms of performance, but with the right price and some overclocking, they can be better than Athlons.

 

[YO_KID37]

so which processor is actually faster?.

the one with better architecture, higher freqfency, more instruction sets, more cache and better production process. 8)

The architecture is the same, the frequency can be the same, the instruction sets are almost all the same (Semprons don't have SSE3 yet), cache doesn't matter in most applications, and the production process is exactly the same. Both chips come from the same factory. Semprons are just Athlon 64s that don't make the cut.

And Semprons are more than powerful enough to run a basic box from just office applications and the internet or a something like a file server. If I were to build my girlfriend a new computer it'd be a Sempron because she doesn't need anything better than that.

Ohh!!! Snap. I'm telling your Girl you said that!!

 

[Cybercraig]

I agree! He should get the CPU with the least cake memory. There are enough fat gamers out there already! :lol:

 

[Jebazor]

so
...The architecture is the same, the frequency can be the same, the instruction sets are almost all the same (Semprons don't have SSE3 yet), cache doesn't ...

Which are we talking about? old socket A Semprons, old S754 Semprons, S754 Sempron 64's, or the new 939's that come in some retail machines.

The Sempron 64 is relatively new and it does have SSE3 and 64 bit support, and doesn't seem to be that bad at all sorts of apps and games.

 

[Jebazor]

Oh, and who wouldn't like more Cake with thier processors?

 

[Mach5Motorsport]

As others have said earlier, the Semperon is a great value CPU (a real Celeron killer and even those early P4s). If AMD is serious about having a Sempron AM2, then that might be my next ticket to upgrade.

 

[Jebazor]

The Sempron 64's are better than celerons and Pentium IV's and equal to the Athlon 64's in performance forthe price.