ATI Radeon HD 5570: Reasonable Gaming Performance For $80?

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johnbilicki

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Because someone who is going to consider buying a 5570 is so going to pair it with a socket 1366 which makes up for a massive 1% of all CPU's Intel is selling. This is the kind of card someone's parent is going to wonder to the store and pick up so their daughter can play The Sims. 50+ FPS in Crysis? >__>
 

xaira

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i thought this would be cheaper, cant wait for fermi to come and reduce amds horrible pricing of the low end lineup, the 5670 shudve had 640 stream processors!!!
 

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[citation][nom]xaira[/nom]i thought this would be cheaper, cant wait for fermi to come and reduce amds horrible pricing of the low end lineup, the 5670 shudve had 640 stream processors!!![/citation]

AMD/ATI set the MSRP to $320 for the 5870, blame the retailers for jacking the prices up since nVidia hasn't yet put anything out to compete with.
 
Anyway, still a good budget card. I bet this card is made so that AMD can afford to sell it a little less than what even the Radeon 4650 is currently going for, while the 5670 may even fall below the $64 the cheapest 4670s are going for.
 

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Disappointing performance increase considering it's supposed to be replacing a card from over a year ago. I would have thought they could have mustered something better.
 

ta152h

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The paper clip is poor as a size reference point, since paper clips are not all the same size. Because of that, it's impossible to know the actual size of the die, since we don't know the size of the paper clip.
 
[citation][nom]acasel[/nom]where is the crossfire mode?[/citation]
Call it the 5770?? It would be a better option than X-fire, IMHO.

Personally I'd rather have the 5670 at ~$80 than have the 5570 at that price range. Well the 5670 is what I'd call the HTPC's gaming card choice, IMHO. You get a good GPU that doesn't require extra power and still can play games pretty good!
 

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Not something I would ever consider, even for an HTPC... Its seems like a waste of silicon, aluminium, plastic, and metal... might as well get the 5670 or the 9600gt with an hdmi
 

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[citation][nom]megamanx00[/nom]I would have liked to have seen how this stacks up against the GT240 with GDDR3 as the 5670 already knocked the GT240 with GDDR5 off its perch.[/citation]

The GT240 wipes the floor with it across the board basically better performance, lower power, and lower noise.
 

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AMD/ATI set the MSRP to $320 for the 5870

No, the MSRP of the 5870 was $399. Always has been. The only 58xx card to increase is the 5850, and thats at $300.

Another so so card. I'd still like to know what AMD did differently to the shaders in the 5xxx cards. They are slower C4C then the shaders in the 4xxx cards. Anand has shown it, but no good explanation as to why. This is a good card for people looking to get in the ring or replace a dead card, but no upgrade for most of us. As a performance minded person, the 9600GT or a used 9800/8800GT is a better deal.
 

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I can't think of a compelling reason anyone would buy this card when you could get a better performing card for the same price point or pay more for a better performing card or pay less for a quieter lower power consumption card.
 

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Our Radeon HD 5570 lacks a CrossFire bridge, but AMD let us know that these low-end Radeons will work quite well in CrossFire without the bridge connector; in fact, it's one of those designs able to enable CrossFire operation over the PCI Express bus. The thing is, with 400 shader cores per card, it is difficult to imagine a scenario where dual Radeon HD 5570s would make sense. The Radeon HD 5750 costs less than two Radeon HD 5570s, but sports 800 shader cores and comes with faster GDDR5 memory. This is one of those scenarios where a single board is a better value than two less-expensive derivatives.

Two things to point out: first, my 3870's in crossfire did fantastic with their measily 320 shader cores and GDDR3 memory

and second, I don't mean to sound like an ass but the 5750 has 720 shader cores ;)
 

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I would like to just say that one major point of this card was just barely looked at and barely mentioned. Its a LOW PROFILE card designed for a small niche market.

Last, but certainly not least however, is the area the 5570 excels at: low-profile cards. The low-profile market is basically dominated by bottom-tier cards such as the GeForce 210, Radeon 4350, Radeon 5450, and of course a number of even older cards. The 5570 is faster than every single one of them, usually by a factor of 2-3x. Compared to the 5450 in particular, it fits in the same form factor and offers around 3x the performance for only $25 more. The use of Redwood as opposed to Cedar does mean it consumes more power and generates more heat, but this should be a bearable tradeoff for the significant performance improvement in most low-profile cases.

This card isn't meant for high or even medium end gaming, its meant for those people who can't fit a normal size card into the pc they bought thats sporting some cheap intel GPU. For those few people this makes a viable option.
 

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citation][nom]noob2222[/nom]I would like to just say that one major point of this card was just barely looked at and barely mentioned. Its a LOW PROFILE card designed for a small niche market. This card isn't meant for high or even medium end gaming, its meant for those people who can't fit a normal size card into the pc they bought thats sporting some cheap intel GPU. For those few people this makes a viable option.[/citation]
darn it
he's right! I'm having a hard time looking for a new case
and I don't even play anything worth mentioning with my oldish 4770 :(
 

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[citation][nom]megamanx00[/nom]Anyway, still a good budget card. I bet this card is made so that AMD can afford to sell it a little less than what even the Radeon 4650 is currently going for, while the 5670 may even fall below the $64 the cheapest 4670s are going for.[/citation]
yeah and the 5850's msrp is around $250, and they sold for that much at launch. I have been kicking myself for not buying one right off the bat for months now.
 

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At this point, AMD's DirectX 11 portfolio is now complete, from top to bottom, $80 to $680. The only missing piece of the puzzle might be a Radeon HD 4650 counterpart in the 5000-series, though we've heard no mention of such a card.

So there's no 5830 card?
I always read in the forum how good this card will be...
 

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[citation][nom]knowom[/nom]The GT240 wipes the floor with it across the board basically better performance, lower power, and lower noise.[/citation]

That's because the gts240 is competing against the 5670, a card which incidentally thrashes it across the board.
 

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"At this point, AMD's DirectX 11 portfolio is now complete, from top to bottom, $80 to $680. The only missing piece of the puzzle might be a Radeon HD 4650 counterpart in the 5000-series, though we've heard no mention of such a card"

WTF IS THE ATI 5830???!!!!!
 

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So I still have nothing to replace the low profile 9600GT in my sister's PC. I don't like the whine of the small fan on that 9600GT

BTW, I only paid $65 after rebate for that 9600GT
 
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