AUX temp cause CPU throttle in Dark Souls 3

[PaddyVu]

How can i reduce AUX temp or can ignore AUX temp in BIOS?
When it higher than 70 degree,the game starts throttle like this:
https://scontent-hkg3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/13055098_942433289208293_4253707008158385494_o.jpg
And when it below 70 degree,the game is normal
https://scontent-hkg3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/13055830_942433195874969_4642594085747651954_o.jpg
How can i ignore this AUX temp?

 

[techgeek]

Well first off, recording the game play is probably tainting the results of the recording because the recording software is using an already overtaxed CPU.

This might be difficult to hear, but you are seriously underpowered for that game. The minimum requirement for Dark Souls 3 is a i5 2500K (which runs at 3.3GHz). That is a quad core running at a clockspeed that is likely equivalent of your CPU running at nearly 4GHz or higher. In fact I am surprised it runs at all. Most games query the hardware and if it falls under the minimum requirements will refuse to run and will notify you of the deficiencies.

Furthermore, your GPU looks to be borderline / underpowered for the minimum requirements.

I think your issue is more of a bridge too far in the case of this game. Your PC just can't bridge the gap to the minimum requirements. You are expecting a PC which is essentially 8 years old (regardless of the overclock) to run a game which is fairly demanding on the CPU which is your PC's greatest weakness and largest shortcoming.

As for seeing your framerate, temperatures, fan speeds, etc while fullscreen, look into Afterburner. It comes with RTSS (RivaTuner Statistics Server) which give you an OSD so that you can display these values of interest in game.

 

[PaddyVu]

Well first off, recording the game play is probably tainting the results of the recording because the recording software is using an already overtaxed CPU.

This might be difficult to hear, but you are seriously underpowered for that game. The minimum requirement for Dark Souls 3 is a i5 2500K (which runs at 3.3GHz). That is a quad core running at a clockspeed that is likely equivalent of your CPU running at nearly 4GHz or higher. In fact I am surprised it runs at all. Most games query the hardware and if it falls under the minimum requirements will refuse to run and will notify you of the deficiencies.

Furthermore, your GPU looks to be borderline / underpowered for the minimum requirements.

I think your issue is more of a bridge too far in the case of this game. Your PC just can't bridge the gap to the minimum requirements. You are expecting a PC which is essentially 8 years old (regardless of the overclock) to run a game which is fairly demanding on the CPU which is your PC's greatest weakness and largest shortcoming.

As for seeing your framerate, temperatures, fan speeds, etc while fullscreen, look into Afterburner. It comes with RTSS (RivaTuner Statistics Server) which give you an OSD so that you can display these values of interest in game.

Sorry for bad video,i will upload another with 1080p with my mobile ,just wait.
Btw,if my CPU didn't reach minium,that's mean the CPU will always run at 100% Cpu usage and the game will stutter,and here is my CPU throttle= > freeze,do you understand me what i say? Sorry i'm from Vietnam,bad structure T_T

 

[techgeek]

I don't think you are throttling. You are just expecting too much from your 8 year old dual core CPU. I'm surprised your system runs it at all.

As for the CPU not running at 100% all the time, this game is probably not very multithreaded which means it runson mostly a single core. So if one core runs at 100% while the other runs at something less, your overall usage is less than 100%. That doesn't mean that you aren't CPU limited, it means that the game is only utilizing one core heavily and if it's not powerful enough to run the game smoothly, then you get stuttering even if the other core is doing next to nothing.

 

[PaddyVu]

I don't think you are throttling. You are just expecting too much from your 8 year old dual core CPU. I'm surprised your system runs it at all.

As for the CPU not running at 100% all the time, this game is probably not very multithreaded which means it runson mostly a single core. So if one core runs at 100% while the other runs at something less, your overall usage is less than 100%. That doesn't mean that you aren't CPU limited, it means that the game is only utilizing one core heavily and if it's not powerful enough to run the game smoothly, then you get stuttering even if the other core is doing next to nothing.

I'm uploading,40% now.You can surprise )
Really really strange 🙁

 

[PaddyVu]

I don't think you are throttling. You are just expecting too much from your 8 year old dual core CPU. I'm surprised your system runs it at all.

As for the CPU not running at 100% all the time, this game is probably not very multithreaded which means it runson mostly a single core. So if one core runs at 100% while the other runs at something less, your overall usage is less than 100%. That doesn't mean that you aren't CPU limited, it means that the game is only utilizing one core heavily and if it's not powerful enough to run the game smoothly, then you get stuttering even if the other core is doing next to nothing.

Done! pls check my video and watch carefully : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLUX0-CeulM

 

[PaddyVu]

Any one?

 

[techgeek]

I don't think you issue has anything to do with AUXTIN. This reading isn't used by anything. Watching the video, it looks like when you experience the stuttering, your CPU and GPU usage is dropping to nearly 0%. I think throttling would behave in the opposite direction, instructions would be queued and when it throttled, the usage would run up to 100% and remain there until the CPU started to execute the instructions in the pipeline again.

Your temperatures (CPU and GPU) are fine and the only ones your system would use to throttle. Your CPU core frequency is completely stable and doesn't downclock once, neither does your graphics card.

I would look more towards the Task Manager. Maybe your HDD is bottlenecking it. If the game is attempting to read something from the disk and it takes too long, the game will stall waiting for the data which would explain why your computer appears to freeze and CPU usage drops.

I had a HDD failing once that behaved just like this even in Windows (not gaming, just using the desktop and browsing) after I had done a complete Windows install. Everything was working fine before the re-install, but afterwards are started having these occasional stutters. I could move the mouse, click on things, but nothing would respond, then a few seconds later the system would "catch up" to all my button clicks and everything would go back to normal. Then I noticed when this happened I could hear a faint repeated clicking coming from my hard drive. I ran all the diagnostics, performance tests, etc on the drive and it came back healthy. Then I contacted WD about it looking for some advice and they issued a RMA for it immediately. Installed the new drive and the problem was gone. So it was obvious I had a drive about to fail even though it passed all the tests. It's also obvious that WD recognized it immediately because they didn't ask for me to do any testing or anything else, they immediately issued the RMA even though I hadn't expressly asked for one.

So I think you need to look beyond this AUXTIN reading. I'm certain that it has to be something else. Look into the Task Manager while running the game, see if your HDD usage goes up. Look at memory usage and see if you are approaching having used all your physical memory which would force Windows to use the page file (HDD) which could seriously slow down your system.

 

[PaddyVu]

I don't think you issue has anything to do with AUXTIN. This reading isn't used by anything. Watching the video, it looks like when you experience the stuttering, your CPU and GPU usage is dropping to nearly 0%. I think throttling would behave in the opposite direction, instructions would be queued and when it throttled, the usage would run up to 100% and remain there until the CPU started to execute the instructions in the pipeline again.

Your temperatures (CPU and GPU) are fine and the only ones your system would use to throttle. Your CPU core frequency is completely stable and doesn't downclock once, neither does your graphics card.

I would look more towards the Task Manager. Maybe your HDD is bottlenecking it. If the game is attempting to read something from the disk and it takes too long, the game will stall waiting for the data which would explain why your computer appears to freeze and CPU usage drops.

I had a HDD failing once that behaved just like this even in Windows (not gaming, just using the desktop and browsing) after I had done a complete Windows install. Everything was working fine before the re-install, but afterwards are started having these occasional stutters. I could move the mouse, click on things, but nothing would respond, then a few seconds later the system would "catch up" to all my button clicks and everything would go back to normal. Then I noticed when this happened I could hear a faint repeated clicking coming from my hard drive. I ran all the diagnostics, performance tests, etc on the drive and it came back healthy. Then I contacted WD about it looking for some advice and they issued a RMA for it immediately. Installed the new drive and the problem was gone. So it was obvious I had a drive about to fail even though it passed all the tests. It's also obvious that WD recognized it immediately because they didn't ask for me to do any testing or anything else, they immediately issued the RMA even though I hadn't expressly asked for one.

So I think you need to look beyond this AUXTIN reading. I'm certain that it has to be something else. Look into the Task Manager while running the game, see if your HDD usage goes up. Look at memory usage and see if you are approaching having used all your physical memory which would force Windows to use the page file (HDD) which could seriously slow down your system.

Can you show me? I don't know how to do now.
Seem in the video,each time AUX goes up to 79 degree then game freeze.
Btw yesterday i just add a 1GB ram (total 5GB ram) and i only see game freeze about 2-3 times in 4 hours,AUX keep at 65 degree,look like ram issue?

 

[techgeek]

If you only had 4GB of RAM, that is half of the minimum requirement. Dark Souls 3 requires 8GB. This makes much more sense. In a memory constrained situation Windows will be forced to use the page file which is located on your hard drive and is much slower than your system memory. This will cause severe hitching and stuttering when it has to page out data from memory to the page file so it can load the needed data into memory. Essentially you'll be making two transactions to the hard drive. The first will be the data that Windows is paging out to make room for the new data, then another transaction to read the needed data from the hard drive to put in memory.

If your motherboard supports 8GB, I would suggest that you get a 8GB kit.

As for testing this, open the Task Manager. The easiest was is to right-click the Taskbar and a menu pops up, select Task Manager. Then select the Performance tab. Once you're set up, start your game and keep an eye on the graphs for Memory Usage and Disk IO. I'm betting that you will see that you are using nearly all of your memory and when you have a stutter, you'll see Disk IO jump to 100%.

 

[PaddyVu]

If you only had 4GB of RAM, that is half of the minimum requirement. Dark Souls 3 requires 8GB. This makes much more sense. In a memory constrained situation Windows will be forced to use the page file which is located on your hard drive and is much slower than your system memory. This will cause severe hitching and stuttering when it has to page out data from memory to the page file so it can load the needed data into memory. Essentially you'll be making two transactions to the hard drive. The first will be the data that Windows is paging out to make room for the new data, then another transaction to read the needed data from the hard drive to put in memory.

If your motherboard supports 8GB, I would suggest that you get a 8GB kit.

As for testing this, open the Task Manager. The easiest was is to right-click the Taskbar and a menu pops up, select Task Manager. Then select the Performance tab. Once you're set up, start your game and keep an eye on the graphs for Memory Usage and Disk IO. I'm betting that you will see that you are using nearly all of your memory and when you have a stutter, you'll see Disk IO jump to 100%.

My mainboard sp 16GB ^_^ that's why i bought this main
Tks,i will check

 

[PaddyVu]

If you only had 4GB of RAM, that is half of the minimum requirement. Dark Souls 3 requires 8GB. This makes much more sense. In a memory constrained situation Windows will be forced to use the page file which is located on your hard drive and is much slower than your system memory. This will cause severe hitching and stuttering when it has to page out data from memory to the page file so it can load the needed data into memory. Essentially you'll be making two transactions to the hard drive. The first will be the data that Windows is paging out to make room for the new data, then another transaction to read the needed data from the hard drive to put in memory.

If your motherboard supports 8GB, I would suggest that you get a 8GB kit.

As for testing this, open the Task Manager. The easiest was is to right-click the Taskbar and a menu pops up, select Task Manager. Then select the Performance tab. Once you're set up, start your game and keep an eye on the graphs for Memory Usage and Disk IO. I'm betting that you will see that you are using nearly all of your memory and when you have a stutter, you'll see Disk IO jump to 100%.

is this? I see memory still free 1,5GB ?

 

[techgeek]

Were you getting any hitching while running that test? If so then you may need to open the Resource Manager and have a look at your disk usage.

 

[PaddyVu]

Were you getting any hitching while running that test? If so then you may need to open the Resource Manager and have a look at your disk usage.

I don't know word "hitching",google translate can't read,is Resource Manager from Resource Monitor,what should i do now? I'm opening it,how to check for good result? I see so many disk here @@

 

[techgeek]

Ok first you want to select the Disk tab at the top. This will give you just the graphs for the disk usage and also the data for the processes that are using the HDD. In the Processes with Disk Activity table, if you click the Read column it will sort it from greatest to least. Looking at the top graph on the right pane, the scale of that graph is auto scaling, so the graph without the scale is useless. The graph could be showing spikes off the chart, but if the scale is like 1MB/s then there isn't much disk activity. So pay attention to the scale. It will auto change if the graph exceeds the scale by a significant amount.

Here is mine just sitting at the desktop:

Obviously yours is going to be a little more busy when gaming. Have this open while running DS3 and watch for when it stutters. You should see a large spike on the graph and a corresponding jump for the DS3 process or System if Windows is using the pagefile. I actually think the table for Disk Activity in the column File will show if the pagefile is being used. I couldn't get mine to appear, but that's because I have 16GB of RAM. I'm guessing that you will have a file in the File column that looks something like C:\pagefile.sys in it.

By the way hitching used in this context means pausing or stuttering. It can have other meanings too which have nothing to do with computing. In the context I was using it, I meant when your system was making those long pauses like it was frozen. In your case it's not just your game that pauses, the entire computer pauses. This really makes me think that the entire computer is struggling under constrained memory resources. It's not heat related, that's why when you run Prime 95 with Small FFT's (doesn't use much RAM), you don't throttle. You could probably run Prime 95 and Unigine Heaven at the same time and you still wouldn't stutter as long as you didn't end up using all your RAM.

 

[PaddyVu]

Ok first you want to select the Disk tab at the top. This will give you just the graphs for the disk usage and also the data for the processes that are using the HDD. In the Processes with Disk Activity table, if you click the Read column it will sort it from greatest to least. Looking at the top graph on the right pane, the scale of that graph is auto scaling, so the graph without the scale is useless. The graph could be showing spikes off the chart, but if the scale is like 1MB/s then there isn't much disk activity. So pay attention to the scale. It will auto change if the graph exceeds the scale by a significant amount.

Here is mine just sitting at the desktop:

Obviously yours is going to be a little more busy when gaming. Have this open while running DS3 and watch for when it stutters. You should see a large spike on the graph and a corresponding jump for the DS3 process or System if Windows is using the pagefile. I actually think the table for Disk Activity in the column File will show if the pagefile is being used. I couldn't get mine to appear, but that's because I have 16GB of RAM. I'm guessing that you will have a file in the File column that looks something like C:\pagefile.sys in it.

By the way hitching used in this context means pausing or stuttering. It can have other meanings too which have nothing to do with computing. In the context I was using it, I meant when your system was making those long pauses like it was frozen. In your case it's not just your game that pauses, the entire computer pauses. This really makes me think that the entire computer is struggling under constrained memory resources. It's not heat related, that's why when you run Prime 95 with Small FFT's (doesn't use much RAM), you don't throttle. You could probably run Prime 95 and Unigine Heaven at the same time and you still wouldn't stutter as long as you didn't end up using all your RAM.

Really confuse,above 30 fps is normal,below that is stutter,no freeze

Is this exactly from Ram issue? I think i will buy more 4GB ram.
Because when i only have 4GB ram,the game starts freeze and stutter when playing it for 1-2 minutes,then 2 days ago i added one more ram to my main and i have 5GB ram,so from that time till now,i only have a little stutter when playing,and sometime freeze when play for about 2-3 hours.
AW,this is true,RAM is the best solution ! Tk you techgeek

 

[techgeek]

Yeah I think another 4GB will help. I would try and only use 8GB, leave the 1GB DIMM out. Your memory speed will work faster if it's in dual channel mode. If you add one oddball DIMM then it will work in single channel mode.

I am assuming here that the 4GB you have now is a single stick? Is this correct?

 

[PaddyVu]

Yeah I think another 4GB will help. I would try and only use 8GB, leave the 1GB DIMM out. Your memory speed will work faster if it's in dual channel mode. If you add one oddball DIMM then it will work in single channel mode.

I am assuming here that the 4GB you have now is a single stick? Is this correct?

Yeah,that's right ^^

 

[techgeek]

So if your budget doesn't allow a 2X4GB kit to replace all the RAM with, just try to get a stick as close to the 4GB DIMM you already have. Don't use the 1GB DIMM.

 

[PaddyVu]

So if your budget doesn't allow a 2X4GB kit to replace all the RAM with, just try to get a stick as close to the 4GB DIMM you already have. Don't use the 1GB DIMM.

1GB help me alot btw my main have 4 slot for ram but diffirent color? What does it mean?

 

[techgeek]

Ok as for the colored slots, ASUS pairs the colored slots for to make it easier to visualize installing for Dual Channel. So if you are using two identical DIMM's, they should go in the black slots (A1 & B1).

If you are using all four slots, then two identical DIMM's go in the black slots (A1 & B1) and two identical DIMM's (though they can be different from the first two) go in the orange slots (A2 & B2). So for instance if you were using a 2X2GB kit and a 2X1GB kit (for a total of 6GB), you'd put the 2X2GB kit in the black slots and the 2X1GB kit in the orange slots. So essentially the DIMM's in black have to match and the DIMM's in orange have to match but the black and orange don't have to match.

I hope that's not too confusing. In your case since you plan on getting another 4GB DIMM to match the first, they will each go in a black slot. They might work if they were put in orange slots, but this is the way ASUS suggests you arrange them. Also if you want the boost of dual channel, don't use the 1GB DIMM that you have unless you plan on also getting another 1GB DIMM to match it for the other slot. That would give you 10GB, though you shouldn't need that much. Your motherboard supports up to 16GB total.

When you buy the other 4GB DIMM, try to get the exact same one as you already have if possible. This will give you the greatest chance of booting. In some cases mismatched RAM can cause your system to not POST. That is why it's always best to buy dual channel kits, this way you know for sure that the DIMM's are identical.

 

[PaddyVu]

Ok as for the colored slots, ASUS pairs the colored slots for to make it easier to visualize installing for Dual Channel. So if you are using two identical DIMM's, they should go in the black slots (A1 & B1).

If you are using all four slots, then two identical DIMM's go in the black slots (A1 & B1) and two identical DIMM's (though they can be different from the first two) go in the orange slots (A2 & B2). So for instance if you were using a 2X2GB kit and a 2X1GB kit (for a total of 6GB), you'd put the 2X2GB kit in the black slots and the 2X1GB kit in the orange slots. So essentially the DIMM's in black have to match and the DIMM's in orange have to match but the black and orange don't have to match.

I hope that's not too confusing. In your case since you plan on getting another 4GB DIMM to match the first, they will each go in a black slot. They might work if they were put in orange slots, but this is the way ASUS suggests you arrange them. Also if you want the boost of dual channel, don't use the 1GB DIMM that you have unless you plan on also getting another 1GB DIMM to match it for the other slot. That would give you 10GB, though you shouldn't need that much. Your motherboard supports up to 16GB total.

When you buy the other 4GB DIMM, try to get the exact same one as you already have if possible. This will give you the greatest chance of booting. In some cases mismatched RAM can cause your system to not POST. That is why it's always best to buy dual channel kits, this way you know for sure that the DIMM's are identical.

Tks,very clear,but i don't know this mean "post" In some cases mismatched RAM can cause your system to not POST

 

[techgeek]

POST (because its an acronym, I've capitalized all the letters) stands for Power On Self Test. This is what happens when you first turn on your PC, the BIOS runs tests on each of the major subsystems and then if everything is OK, it turns on and you get a display. If you have a case speaker, then this is where the single beep tells you that everything is good. If the system doesn't turn on and you get a series of long and short beeps (the pattern tells you the nature of the problem), then your system is said to have failed the POST.

 

[PaddyVu]

POST (because its an acronym, I've capitalized all the letters) stands for Power On Self Test. This is what happens when you first turn on your PC, the BIOS runs tests on each of the major subsystems and then if everything is OK, it turns on and you get a display. If you have a case speaker, then this is where the single beep tells you that everything is good. If the system doesn't turn on and you get a series of long and short beeps (the pattern tells you the nature of the problem), then your system is said to have failed the POST.

Ok,i have case speaker,i can hear beep and every thing is normal except i oc e8400 to 4.0 ghz =)) there will be no beep =))

 

[techgeek]

So now you know what POST means, it's just a self test that motherboard does every time it turns on.

And obviously when you overclock it, you don't get a single beep or any beep because the motherboard is failing to perform the POST.

 

[PaddyVu]

So now you know what POST means, it's just a self test that motherboard does every time it turns on.

And obviously when you overclock it, you don't get a single beep or any beep because the motherboard is failing to perform the POST.

That's right And how can i overclock e8400 up to 4.0ghz with this mainboard, each time fsb goes over 435,mainboard will failed to boot 🙁