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Does anyone know of any less complex way to solve this problem?

"Sheridan Hutchinson" <Sheridan@Shezza.org> wrote in message
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> > "Sheridan Hutchinson" <Sheridan@Shezza.org> wrote in message
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> > > How do I get XP to retest the sectors that have been marked out
> > > as bad but aren't? Is there any 3rd party tool anyone knows of
> > > that could do this?
> >
> > The only way to reset NTFS bad block list is explained at
> > http://www.bodden.de/misc/ntfsrecovery/
>
> Thank you very much! This is just what I've been looking for!
>
> - --
> Regards,
> Sheridan Hutchinson
> Sheridan@Shezza.org or ICQ# 332-123-498
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In article <2honidFfgu7jU1@uni-berlin.de>, Jim <comex@excite.com> wrote:
>Does anyone know of any less complex way to solve this problem?
>
>"Sheridan Hutchinson" <Sheridan@Shezza.org> wrote in message
>news:c79su2$1g7eb$1@ID-232150.news.uni-berlin.de...
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>> "Sz. Csetey" <szcs@abuse.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:204f0b87.0405010153.60237fcb@posting.google.com...
>> > "Sheridan Hutchinson" <Sheridan@Shezza.org> wrote in message
>> > news:<c6eeh9$ai2oo$1@ID-232150.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>> > > How do I get XP to retest the sectors that have been marked out
>> > > as bad but aren't? Is there any 3rd party tool anyone knows of
>> > > that could do this?
>> >
>> > The only way to reset NTFS bad block list is explained at
>> > http://www.bodden.de/misc/ntfsrecovery/
>>
>> Thank you very much! This is just what I've been looking for!
>>
>> - --
>> Regards,
>> Sheridan Hutchinson
>> Sheridan@Shezza.org or ICQ# 332-123-498
>>
>>
>

FWIW I just had an unreadable block reported by my image backup
software (acronis trueimage). A chkdsk /R found the block and mapped
it out with no loss of data.






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Interesting, especially so in that my issue concerns Acronis TrueImage 7.0,
which you say maps out the bad sectors. I did a chkdsk /r prior to creating
an image using Acronis and yet TrueImage copied the same 44 KB in bad
sectors to the cloned new drive which I verified as having no bad sectors.
The bad sectors are reported after doing a chkdsk from the command prompt,
but do not show if I run tests on the hard drive using the manufacturers
check disking software. In other words, the 44KB in bad sectors reflects
only on the restored image, not on the hard disk itself.

"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
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> In article <2honidFfgu7jU1@uni-berlin.de>, Jim <comex@excite.com> wrote:
> >Does anyone know of any less complex way to solve this problem?
> >
> >"Sheridan Hutchinson" <Sheridan@Shezza.org> wrote in message
> >news:c79su2$1g7eb$1@ID-232150.news.uni-berlin.de...
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> >> "Sz. Csetey" <szcs@abuse.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> news:204f0b87.0405010153.60237fcb@posting.google.com...
> >> > "Sheridan Hutchinson" <Sheridan@Shezza.org> wrote in message
> >> > news:<c6eeh9$ai2oo$1@ID-232150.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> >> > > How do I get XP to retest the sectors that have been marked out
> >> > > as bad but aren't? Is there any 3rd party tool anyone knows of
> >> > > that could do this?
> >> >
> >> > The only way to reset NTFS bad block list is explained at
> >> > http://www.bodden.de/misc/ntfsrecovery/
> >>
> >> Thank you very much! This is just what I've been looking for!
> >>
> >> - --
> >> Regards,
> >> Sheridan Hutchinson
> >> Sheridan@Shezza.org or ICQ# 332-123-498
> >>
> FWIW I just had an unreadable block reported by my image backup
> software (acronis trueimage). A chkdsk /R found the block and mapped
> it out with no loss of data.
> --
> Al Dykes
> -----------
> adykes at p a n i x . c o m


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In article <2htpmkFgqqakU1@uni-berlin.de>, Jim <comex@excite.com> wrote:
>Interesting, especially so in that my issue concerns Acronis TrueImage 7.0,
>which you say maps out the bad sectors. I did a chkdsk /r prior to creating
>an image using Acronis and yet TrueImage copied the same 44 KB in bad
>sectors to the cloned new drive which I verified as having no bad sectors.
>The bad sectors are reported after doing a chkdsk from the command prompt,
>but do not show if I run tests on the hard drive using the manufacturers
>check disking software. In other words, the 44KB in bad sectors reflects
>only on the restored image, not on the hard disk itself.

I didn't say that TI maps out bad sectors. It "found one".

chkdsk /r found and fixed it.

Send the logs into support ? I had a nice discussion with Acronis
support (via email). It took a few days to respond to the initial
message but fater that it was next-day response.


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>"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:c97gkk$2m5$1@panix3.panix.com...
>> In article <2honidFfgu7jU1@uni-berlin.de>, Jim <comex@excite.com> wrote:
>> >Does anyone know of any less complex way to solve this problem?
>> >
>> >"Sheridan Hutchinson" <Sheridan@Shezza.org> wrote in message
>> >news:c79su2$1g7eb$1@ID-232150.news.uni-berlin.de...
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>> >> "Sz. Csetey" <szcs@abuse.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >> news:204f0b87.0405010153.60237fcb@posting.google.com...
>> >> > "Sheridan Hutchinson" <Sheridan@Shezza.org> wrote in message
>> >> > news:<c6eeh9$ai2oo$1@ID-232150.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>> >> > > How do I get XP to retest the sectors that have been marked out
>> >> > > as bad but aren't? Is there any 3rd party tool anyone knows of
>> >> > > that could do this?
>> >> >
>> >> > The only way to reset NTFS bad block list is explained at
>> >> > http://www.bodden.de/misc/ntfsrecovery/
>> >>
>> >> Thank you very much! This is just what I've been looking for!
>> >>
>> >> - --
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Sheridan Hutchinson
>> >> Sheridan@Shezza.org or ICQ# 332-123-498
>> >>
>> FWIW I just had an unreadable block reported by my image backup
>> software (acronis trueimage). A chkdsk /R found the block and mapped
>> it out with no loss of data.
>> --
>> Al Dykes
>> -----------
>> adykes at p a n i x . c o m
>
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Al Dykes
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adykes at p a n i x . c o m
 
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I sent the log into Acronis, but tech support is virtually non-existent.
With Acronis you're basically on your own (of course that's probably true
with other vendors as well). I've been advised that Ghost will map out the
bad sectors and give an accurate chkdsk -- is this true? This is a minor
annoyance but one which one would think could be addressed by some creative
programming.

"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
news:c9cn15$85l$1@panix3.panix.com...
> In article <2htpmkFgqqakU1@uni-berlin.de>, Jim <comex@excite.com> wrote:
> >Interesting, especially so in that my issue concerns Acronis TrueImage
7.0,
> >which you say maps out the bad sectors. I did a chkdsk /r prior to
creating
> >an image using Acronis and yet TrueImage copied the same 44 KB in bad
> >sectors to the cloned new drive which I verified as having no bad
sectors.
> >The bad sectors are reported after doing a chkdsk from the command
prompt,
> >but do not show if I run tests on the hard drive using the manufacturers
> >check disking software. In other words, the 44KB in bad sectors reflects
> >only on the restored image, not on the hard disk itself.
>
> I didn't say that TI maps out bad sectors. It "found one".
>
> chkdsk /r found and fixed it.
>
> Send the logs into support ? I had a nice discussion with Acronis
> support (via email). It took a few days to respond to the initial
> message but fater that it was next-day response.
>
>
> >
> >"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
> >news:c97gkk$2m5$1@panix3.panix.com...
> >> In article <2honidFfgu7jU1@uni-berlin.de>, Jim <comex@excite.com>
wrote:
> >> >Does anyone know of any less complex way to solve this problem?
> >> >
> >> >"Sheridan Hutchinson" <Sheridan@Shezza.org> wrote in message
> >> >news:c79su2$1g7eb$1@ID-232150.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >> >>
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> >> >> "Sz. Csetey" <szcs@abuse.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> >> news:204f0b87.0405010153.60237fcb@posting.google.com...
> >> >> > "Sheridan Hutchinson" <Sheridan@Shezza.org> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:<c6eeh9$ai2oo$1@ID-232150.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> >> >> > > How do I get XP to retest the sectors that have been marked out
> >> >> > > as bad but aren't? Is there any 3rd party tool anyone knows of
> >> >> > > that could do this?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The only way to reset NTFS bad block list is explained at
> >> >> > http://www.bodden.de/misc/ntfsrecovery/
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you very much! This is just what I've been looking for!
> >> >>
> >> >> - --
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Sheridan Hutchinson
> >> >> Sheridan@Shezza.org or ICQ# 332-123-498
> >> >>
> >> FWIW I just had an unreadable block reported by my image backup
> >> software (acronis trueimage). A chkdsk /R found the block and mapped
> >> it out with no loss of data.
> >> --
> >> Al Dykes
> >> -----------
> >> adykes at p a n i x . c o m
> >
> >
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> >Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 5/18/2004
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Al Dykes
> -----------
> adykes at p a n i x . c o m


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I wouldn't ordinarily resurrect a 6 month old thread BUT...

I figured you'd all want to know I found a boot CD that can reset the NTFS bad sector list (at last!). It's a commercial product (about 50 euros) but as far as I can tell the demo isn't crippled in any way. The user interface is not for the feint of heart but it works a treat for this (just accept all the defaults and choose the 50 line display!)...

http://www.dfsee.com/dfsee/download.php

It looks like it does far FAR more than that too so it may be worth the asking price if you want a very powerful low level (yet filesystem aware) disk utility.

Roger.
 
Since I searched about 2 days to find a solution for a n00b:

(From http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc730714.aspx)

CHKDSK /B

/b NTFS only: Clears the list of bad clusters on the volume and rescans all allocated and free clusters for errors. /b includes the functionality of /r. Use this parameter after imaging a volume to a new hard disk drive.

It exists on Vista SP1 through the current Win7 release.
 
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