BCCing of Messages (was Forwarding Diplomatic Messages)

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From: Jonathan Powles (tamino@bigpond.com)
Subject: Re: Forwarding Diplomatic Messages
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Date: 2004-09-10 06:06:13 PST

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Mind, you, real life too has probably not yet come to terms with the
ease,
immediacy, informality, yet "in writing-ness" of email. The person
who
first decided that Bc: should be a standard email function has a dark,
dark
soul and needs to take responsibility for much chaos and misery. And
I have
a hunch he or she might have been a Dip player ...



LOL My Dip soul is black as the ace of spades. Unlike forwarding,
which I do rarely, I make fairly regular use of the BCC. A valuable
tool.

 

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David,

Be careful what you post here, you never know who might be reading...!

> LOL My Dip soul is black as the ace of spades. Unlike forwarding,
> which I do rarely, I make fairly regular use of the BCC. A valuable
> tool.

 

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"Adam P. Silverman" <agman1010@yahoo.com> writes:

Oh, he knows that..... we've been through all that.... he's just
another dirty rotten Bcc'er!

Since we're talking about it, another point for the community to
remember, Bcc's can be VERY confusing to the recipients of them
if they are not practitioners of the black art themselves. If
you get this message to which you clearly are not a party, it
will NOT be obvious who sent it to you. It doesn't scream at
you "I'm a Bcc!" This can lead to confusion....

Jim-Bob

>David,

>Be careful what you post here, you never know who might be reading...!

>> LOL My Dip soul is black as the ace of spades. Unlike forwarding,
>> which I do rarely, I make fairly regular use of the BCC. A valuable
>> tool.

 

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Actually, the bigger problem with BCCs is when the person on the BCC doesnt
realize it was a BCC and replies to all. I've had it happen. Its rather
embarrassing!


"Jim Burgess" <burgess@TheWorld.com> wrote in message
news:cht7hv$mfa$1@pcls4.std.com...
> "Adam P. Silverman" <agman1010@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> Oh, he knows that..... we've been through all that.... he's just
> another dirty rotten Bcc'er!
>
> Since we're talking about it, another point for the community to
> remember, Bcc's can be VERY confusing to the recipients of them
> if they are not practitioners of the black art themselves. If
> you get this message to which you clearly are not a party, it
> will NOT be obvious who sent it to you. It doesn't scream at
> you "I'm a Bcc!" This can lead to confusion....
>
> Jim-Bob
>
> >David,
>
> >Be careful what you post here, you never know who might be reading...!
>
> >> LOL My Dip soul is black as the ace of spades. Unlike forwarding,
> >> which I do rarely, I make fairly regular use of the BCC. A valuable
> >> tool.
>
>

 

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"Adam P. Silverman" <agman1010@yahoo.com> writes:

Precisely one of the confusions I was thinking about! Players
also can get confused about JUST who sent this message to them.

Jim-Bob

>Actually, the bigger problem with BCCs is when the person on the BCC doesnt
>realize it was a BCC and replies to all. I've had it happen. Its rather
>embarrassing!


>"Jim Burgess" <burgess@TheWorld.com> wrote in message
>news:cht7hv$mfa$1@pcls4.std.com...
>> "Adam P. Silverman" <agman1010@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>> Oh, he knows that..... we've been through all that.... he's just
>> another dirty rotten Bcc'er!
>>
>> Since we're talking about it, another point for the community to
>> remember, Bcc's can be VERY confusing to the recipients of them
>> if they are not practitioners of the black art themselves. If
>> you get this message to which you clearly are not a party, it
>> will NOT be obvious who sent it to you. It doesn't scream at
>> you "I'm a Bcc!" This can lead to confusion....
>>
>> Jim-Bob
>>
>> >David,
>>
>> >Be careful what you post here, you never know who might be reading...!
>>
>> >> LOL My Dip soul is black as the ace of spades. Unlike forwarding,
>> >> which I do rarely, I make fairly regular use of the BCC. A valuable
>> >> tool.
>>
>>

 

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Jim Burgess <burgess@TheWorld.com> writes:

> Since we're talking about it, another point for the community to
> remember, Bcc's can be VERY confusing to the recipients of them
> if they are not practitioners of the black art themselves. If
> you get this message to which you clearly are not a party, it
> will NOT be obvious who sent it to you. It doesn't scream at
> you "I'm a Bcc!" This can lead to confusion....

It gets even better if the To: or Cc: headers are faked.

If I mastered non-Judge PBEM games, I'd be very clear about what is
acceptable in regard to faking headers/using Bcc, since most people have
the impression that the actual destination of a mail has anything to do
with its headers.

 

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I have nothing to hide. :^)

"Adam P. Silverman" <agman1010@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cht592$shg$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
> David,
>
> Be careful what you post here, you never know who might be reading...!
>
> > LOL My Dip soul is black as the ace of spades. Unlike forwarding,
> > which I do rarely, I make fairly regular use of the BCC. A valuable
> > tool.

 

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Normally, if it is a surprise BCC, I email the BCC recipient either before
or *immediately* after, to let them know it is coming.

"Jim Burgess" <burgess@TheWorld.com> wrote in message
news:cht7hv$mfa$1@pcls4.std.com...
> "Adam P. Silverman" <agman1010@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> Oh, he knows that..... we've been through all that.... he's just
> another dirty rotten Bcc'er!
>
> Since we're talking about it, another point for the community to
> remember, Bcc's can be VERY confusing to the recipients of them
> if they are not practitioners of the black art themselves. If
> you get this message to which you clearly are not a party, it
> will NOT be obvious who sent it to you. It doesn't scream at
> you "I'm a Bcc!" This can lead to confusion....
>
> Jim-Bob
>
> >David,
>
> >Be careful what you post here, you never know who might be reading...!
>
> >> LOL My Dip soul is black as the ace of spades. Unlike forwarding,
> >> which I do rarely, I make fairly regular use of the BCC. A valuable
> >> tool.
>
>

 

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Other than impersonating the GM, or actual tampering with someone's
computer, there really shouldn't be any restrictions. It is all within the
spirit of the game.

"Björn Lindström" <bkhl@elektrubadur.se> wrote in message
news:s38hdq5dc1p.fsf@numerus.ling.uu.se...
> Jim Burgess <burgess@TheWorld.com> writes:
>
> > Since we're talking about it, another point for the community to
> > remember, Bcc's can be VERY confusing to the recipients of them
> > if they are not practitioners of the black art themselves. If
> > you get this message to which you clearly are not a party, it
> > will NOT be obvious who sent it to you. It doesn't scream at
> > you "I'm a Bcc!" This can lead to confusion....
>
> It gets even better if the To: or Cc: headers are faked.
>
> If I mastered non-Judge PBEM games, I'd be very clear about what is
> acceptable in regard to faking headers/using Bcc, since most people have
> the impression that the actual destination of a mail has anything to do
> with its headers.

 

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Adam P. Silverman wrote:
> Actually, the bigger problem with BCCs is when the person on the BCC doesnt
> realize it was a BCC and replies to all. I've had it happen. Its rather
> embarrassing!

Oh, you think they didn't realize?


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