Be quiet! Pure power 10 500w or Straight Power 11 650w for my build?

[sg21]

As the title says, not sure which PSU to get. Is the Gold standard Straight power worth the (roughly) $50 price difference? is 650w too much for now?

Keep in mind I would like the potential to add another RX580 GPU in the future so that's why I'm flipping over the two different wattages. Would it just be more worthwhile to upgrade the PSU whenever I decide to add another GPU?

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($189.76 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($123.91 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($169.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 8GB DUAL Video Card ($311.29 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($101.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1064.70

If anyone has any other recommendations or opinions regarding the build it would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

 

[Darkbreeze]

I would not recommend either of them. What is your budget for the PSU?

I assume you're in the US since I see walmart in your build list?

 

[Darkbreeze]

As good or better parts selection, where changes were made, plus, less expensive even including the PSU, which by the way is an excellent choice. If you want to go even better on the PSU then I'd recommend looking at the Seasonic Prime Ultra series.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($189.76 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($123.91 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($254.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($101.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1053.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-08 23:11 EDT-0400

 

[sg21]

I would not recommend either of them. What is your budget for the PSU?

I assume you're in the US since I see walmart in your build list?

I'm actually in Australia, just pcpartpicker was set to US and I hadn't changed it. I'd like to keep the budget under US$1200 which is rougly $1500AU.

Slightly off topic question. Would upgrading the GPU from a 580 to a Vega 56 be worth it?

 

[Darkbreeze]

I don't think so. I think if you're going to spend that much money on a card, you spend a little more and go with a top shelf Nvidia card like the 1070-1080 ti. But that's significantly more money. This looks a bit better based on your region.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($234.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($207.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($244.00 @ Shopping Express)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.00 @ Shopping Express)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.00 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($349.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.00 @ IJK)
Power Supply: Antec - Earthwatts Gold Pro 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($105.00 @ Amazon Australia)
Total: $1492.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-09 14:53 AEDT+1100



What resolution are you planning to play at? How many monitors will be used strictly for the purpose of gaming on screen?

 

[sg21]

I don't think so. I think if you're going to spend that much money on a card, you spend a little more and go with a top shelf Nvidia card like the 1070-1080 ti. But that's significantly more money. This looks a bit better based on your region.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($234.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($207.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($244.00 @ Shopping Express)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.00 @ Shopping Express)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.00 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($349.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.00 @ IJK)
Power Supply: Antec - Earthwatts Gold Pro 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($105.00 @ Amazon Australia)
Total: $1492.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-09 14:53 AEDT+1100



What resolution are you planning to play at? How many monitors will be used strictly for the purpose of gaming on screen?

Thanks for the suggestion and advice! I think this may be the set up I go for. Except I think I'll keep the Be quiet! Dark rock CPU cooler as I like the look of it

I'll just be using a single 1080p monitor for a while until I get a new 27" 1440p monitor sometime next year (maybe around the same time I get another 580). I'll probably get something like the AOC Q2778VQE 27”QHD LED Monitor, 2560x1440 Resolution, 1ms. https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q2778VQE-Monitor-2560x1440-Resolution/dp/B00VERZDEG?keywords=1440p+monitor&qid=1539071980&s=Electronics&sr=1-10&ref=sr_1_10

 

[Darkbreeze]

Looks are all good, but performance is more important and that cooler does NOT perform well in testing compared to other similarly priced coolers.

Results were only about as good as a Cryorig H7, a unit that costs MUCH less than the Dark rock 4.

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/04/30/be_quiet_dark_rock_4_cpu_air_cooler_review/3


https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/be-quiet-dark-rock-4-cpu-cooler,5563-2.html


Not impressive at all. Part of the problem is a very slow fan that allows it to keep noise levels low, which is it's selling point but is moot if the performance is not there to go with it like on Noctua, Thermalright, Cryorig and Phanteks coolers. The other part is that the whole heatsink is coated in black, which reduces the entire finstack's ability to shed heat. Uncoated finstacks are better able to do this.

Here's what I'd suggest if you really insist on using it. Put one of these on it in place of the fan it comes with and use the fan it comes with elsewhere in the build, like at the rear or top rear exhaust position. Those positions don't require terrific static pressure as there is little resistance to the airflow from the lower pressure atmosphere outside the case, and little restriction to impede it either.

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-A14-PWM-chromax-Black-swap-Premium-Grade/dp/B07655KF5C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1539103149&sr=8-3&keywords=nf-a14+pwm+chromax.black.swap


If you are going to game at 1440p or higher, I think I'd be targeting a higher performance card than the RX 580 unless you are ok with reducing some of the eye candy and performance setttings.