Benchmarks Show iPhone 5's A6 is Twice as Fast as A5 Chip

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[citation][nom]sonofliberty08[/nom]it doesn't matter, give an A5 to iSheep and tell them it was A6, they will self-hypnosis that it is faster[/citation]

Wow, a comment that makes absolutely no sense nor adds to the discussion. Dude, either add something or make it funny...

xoxo from the iSheep :)
 
[citation][nom]Halcyon[/nom]No, we iSheep sometimes use our brains...just enough to earn the money for the next Apple toy we're gonna buy. And?[/citation]
You are smart enough to get money to buy the "next" about very same phone that you already own just to make Apple rich to sue even grocery companies that have an (totally different looking) apple logo! Briliant way to spend brain activity and money to be honest!
 
Let's all look at it this way. If MIPS actually develops a CPU core that can compete on a watt for watt basis with a similarly clocked ARM CPU (if they haven't already), You can put your money down that the MIPS CPU will blow away any ARM design any day of the week, and be more comparable to current generation desktop/portable CPU's.

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed for MIPS!
 
[citation][nom]Justposting21[/nom]"sundragon:I think it's amazing that all these smart phones match or slightly beat an Intel Core 2 duo's performance. Talk about the pace of processing power... All in a device that lasts hours."They do not match, or beat the slowest Core 2's out there. Read my reply above. They match the floating point performance of a standard PC from the mid-90's thou.... Integer performance is around the speed of a later model Pentium III, or below. Not really a great improvement.[/citation]

I was thinking the exact same thing "bullshit" on them matching those cpu's
 
[citation][nom]blazorthon[/nom]Given that a test of Apple's iPhone 4S users showed that at least some of them thought that an older iPhone 4 was faster than the 4S that they owned, this apparent leap in hardware performance (assuming that it is true) may be lost on deaf ears. Hopefully, the average iPhone customer isn't as stupid as those from that test.[/citation]

during general use, you rarely ever hit 100% CPU usage, so just browsing around the OS and doing other basic stuff will not work to measure the speed (this is easier to test on android due to it's many status bar CPU monitor apps).

an iphone 4s with a ton of apps will feel more sluggish than even the iPhone 3gs with a fresh install. It is just a really weird behavior since the apps are not exactly running at startup.

if you have a 4s, then try this, erase everything then do a fresh install of the is, the. Don't restore any backups, then start completely fresh and it will feel like an entirely new device in terms of speed
 
[citation][nom]eternalkp[/nom]why does this surprise people?apple does not equals performance.look at the mac pro desktop computers. ATI 5870 is top of the line GPU for $200 additional optionLTE. Android phones supporting this eons ago.I remember apple big thing was the 4S is just as fast as LTE during their last keynote. What happens? why upgrade to LTE this time?Funny apple iphone5 is not even 720p. 3 years to make that ugly earphones. Serious music lovers throws away any cheap stock earphones and buy a set of shure or seinhenser[/citation]

to be honest there are no recent supported discrete video cards at least not on amd's side... i have not looked for invidia but i would say that it has to do with the limited need for it.. apple used to be a decent competitor when it came to hardware back in the G4 - G5 days now that they switched to intel and basically just went with exon processors there is no real benefit to buying a mac pro considering an imac with intergrated graphics would stomp that 5750 .. at this point its all about software.. most of it runs better on an Imac especially if it uses cuda or stream cores .. and not to mention its highly over priced.. for the hardware specs I know there doing a refresh on them but Im not sure weather its this year or next ... point is with out video card support it will be a dead platform in no time due to the graphic proc software advancements.

 
as people have posted before (Wondering why there is no indepth analysis on Tom's) AnandTech has posted a great indepth analysis of the "A6".

"Although Geekbench is cross platform, I wouldn't recommend using this data to do anything other than compare iOS devices. I've looked at using Geekbench to compare iOS to Android in the past and I've sometimes seen odd results."

There is >2x performance in the benchmarks and 2x performance on the application benchmarks.

I learned that geek-bench isn't a good method of comparing Android to iOS performance.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6298/analyzing-iphone5-geekbench-results
 
[citation][nom]goodguy713[/nom]to be honest there are no recent supported discrete video cards at least not on amd's side... i have not looked for invidia but i would say that it has to do with the limited need for it.. apple used to be a decent competitor when it came to hardware back in the G4 - G5 days now that they switched to intel and basically just went with exon processors there is no real benefit to buying a mac pro considering an imac with intergrated graphics would stomp that 5750 .. at this point its all about software.. most of it runs better on an Imac especially if it uses cuda or stream cores .. and not to mention its highly over priced.. for the hardware specs I know there doing a refresh on them but Im not sure weather its this year or next ... point is with out video card support it will be a dead platform in no time due to the graphic proc software advancements.[/citation]

What integrated graphics is better than a Radeon 5750?
 
Apparently the author doesn't know ARM very well.... All A15 cortex chips run on ARMv7 this also includes A9 cortex chips as well. I mean this information is readily available on wikipedia
 
[citation][nom]crbrady[/nom]Pretty sure ARMv7 is the instruction set not the processor generation. I am fairly certain that the a8, a9, and the a15 uses ARMv7 instructions. And its impossible to make one A9 twice as fast as another at the same clock unless one is totally and utterly crippled. I am 99% certain this is an a15 cpu in the apple a6.[/citation]
I more betting on a custom core like the Krait.
 
[citation][nom]blazorthon[/nom]http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/popularIf we look here, there are Galaxy S3 results with scores over 1900 and over 2050 and that's without overclocking. Does anyone know what causes this discrepancy between all of these Galaxy S3 scores? Also, is this highly threaded performance or lightly threaded performance? If it's highly threaded performance, then although it'd possibly be better for heavy multi-tasking, then the iPhone 5 might have an advantage in single/dual threaded performance if it is only using a dual-core CPU.[/citation]
The AOSP/Cyanogen/pure android handsets are faster than the ones with touchwiz/flip/sync/facepalm or whatever OS was released by Samsung. Additionally the international SGS3 is faster than the AT&T/Sprint/Verizon ones in heavily threaded applications.
 
[citation][nom]goodguy713[/nom]to be honest there are no recent supported discrete video cards at least not on amd's side... i have not looked for invidia but i would say that it has to do with the limited need for it.. apple used to be a decent competitor when it came to hardware back in the G4 - G5 days now that they switched to intel and basically just went with exon processors there is no real benefit to buying a mac pro considering an imac with intergrated graphics would stomp that 5750 .. at this point its all about software.. most of it runs better on an Imac especially if it uses cuda or stream cores .. and not to mention its highly over priced.. for the hardware specs I know there doing a refresh on them but Im not sure weather its this year or next ... point is with out video card support it will be a dead platform in no time due to the graphic proc software advancements.[/citation]
The thing is, most people that buys the Mac Pro will switch the GPU for a Quadro or FirePro, something you can't so with an iMac. Also the CPU on the iMac doesn't stand a change against the one on the Mac Pro.
 
[citation][nom]dalethepcman[/nom]The AOSP/Cyanogen/pure android handsets are faster than the ones with touchwiz/flip/sync/facepalm or whatever OS was released by Samsung. Additionally the international SGS3 is faster than the AT&T/Sprint/Verizon ones in heavily threaded applications.[/citation]

I just looked into it a little more and it would seem that the difference is mostly in memory performance differences. If it's only highly threaded performance that the international model excels at better than USA models, that would seem to explain the discrepancy between them; thanks.
 
[citation][nom]cknobman[/nom]So your telling me Apple is releasing something brand new that fails to beat the current top Android smart phone in performance?I though apple usually released new devices that stomped the Android competition in performance and then Android spent the next 6 months catching up and then passing apple?[/citation]

I think its more like the competition from Samsung and HTC is trying to build very fast phones in order to try and gain market share with fancy specs. iPhone has high quality and superior smart phone OS.

I think it is great that competition with Apple has greatly improved the Smart Phone segment for consumers. Though I prefer Apple products, not only because its US based but because Apple releases quality products and is a design leader in the industry. Will be interesting to see how the new Windows phone will do. I def respect MS for designing a completely new OS rather than copy the iOS like Android.
 
None of that matters, Do all of you "isheep" haters go around showing people your geekbench scores?

All that matters is how it works. My girlfriend and I have a SGSIII and Note respectively and both had Iphones, she is going back to the IPhone. Why? cause it's smooth and she likes the interface.

If my phone had a .003 on geekbench but it was smooth and had all the functionality I needed who cares about stupid numbers?
 
I dont know why or how you benchmark a phone. Its one thing to have a fast snappy phone, its another to live up your phone to be something it's not ; a super fast gaming pc with a major die shrink that runs Crysis 2 on Ultra.

The S3 being faster isnt really much of a point. Where is the power being spent on? Android games are less then stellar.
 
[citation][nom]robochump[/nom]I think its more like the competition from Samsung and HTC is trying to build very fast phones in order to try and gain market share with fancy specs. iPhone has high quality and superior smart phone OS. I think it is great that competition with Apple has greatly improved the Smart Phone segment for consumers. Though I prefer Apple products, not only because its US based but because Apple releases quality products and is a design leader in the industry. Will be interesting to see how the new Windows phone will do. I def respect MS for designing a completely new OS rather than copy the iOS like Android.[/citation]

High quality :broken screen: not anymore. Also, Android isn't an iOS clone.
 
[citation][nom]crbrady[/nom]Pretty sure ARMv7 is the instruction set not the processor generation. I am fairly certain that the a8, a9, and the a15 uses ARMv7 instructions. And its impossible to make one A9 twice as fast as another at the same clock unless one is totally and utterly crippled. I am 99% certain this is an a15 cpu in the apple a6.[/citation]You started off good but you got fooled like many of us. I thought it was A15 at first too, and so did Anandtech at first. Ojas and others pointed this out already, but keep in mind Apple licenses both ARM designs and also the v7 instruction set. For the A6 they're not using a predesigned ARM core. It's a custom design SIMILAR to A15. It might even have a higher IPC than unmodified A15, though clocks will be lower I'm sure.[citation][nom]cknobman[/nom]So your telling me Apple is releasing something brand new that fails to beat the current top Android smart phone in performance?I though apple usually released new devices that stomped the Android competition in performance and then Android spent the next 6 months catching up and then passing apple?[/citation][citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]I would like all the Appletards that were waxing lyrical that the iPhone 5 would blow away the SGS3, please stand up and eat your mandatory humble pie[/citation]Well I think it's pretty impressive leap over the A5 for a low-power dual core. I don't think a lot of real-world phone apps tax 4 cores heavily yet, so synthetic benchmarks aside it should perform pretty well. Bandwidth also is decent, which will aid the A6's performance.

But don't forget that the GPU performance has doubled as well, even though the 4S was no slouch. I think it will stack up quite well in terms of 3D performance. The exact nature of the GPU is actually more of a mystery. There's lots of rampant speculation, but basically IMO the three most likely options involve either a slightly higher clocked SGX544MP3, a same-clocked SGX543MP4, or (as someone pointed out on Anandtech the other day) possibly even an SGX554MP2.
 
[citation][nom]eternalkp[/nom]why does this surprise people?apple does not equals performance.look at the mac pro desktop computers. ATI 5870 is top of the line GPU for $200 additional optionLTE. Android phones supporting this eons ago.I remember apple big thing was the 4S is just as fast as LTE during their last keynote. What happens? why upgrade to LTE this time?Funny apple iphone5 is not even 720p. 3 years to make that ugly earphones. Serious music lovers throws away any cheap stock earphones and buy a set of shure or seinhenser[/citation]

If you want to call a Mac Pro overpriced and unreasonable, go right ahead, there is plenty of information to back it up. But by using the GPU comparison, you're kind of embarrassing yourself. The Mac Pro is aimed at the enterprise market, they aren't looking to game. However, iMac's are aimed at the consumer market, that's why they are available with an AMD 6970M.
 
[citation][nom]alexthager[/nom]If you want to call a Mac Pro overpriced and unreasonable, go right ahead, there is plenty of information to back it up. But by using the GPU comparison, you're kind of embarrassing yourself. The Mac Pro is aimed at the enterprise market, they aren't looking to game. However, iMac's are aimed at the consumer market, that's why they are available with an AMD 6970M.[/citation]

Radeon 5870
 
hello 1608 at 1ghz ok now overclocked and cpu perfom boost iphone 5 benchmark beat krait quad core cpu fuk of exynos 5450 can beat iphone 5 and 5250 can compare to iphonne 5 not gpu nly cpu

gpu can beat by mali t658 ihope which wil cme next s4 then next iphone wil cme with power vr 6 series

 
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