BENCHMARKS

[metal143]

Oh my, I don't get that, it's just a SCORE. Sure it shows the performance of your computer, but why LIE about it. Well I am one for making my comp the fastest it can be, but in the long run, it's still just a score. Think of it this way, All this competition, of everybody wanting the best score, just makes us now and SPEND MORE MONEY.

AHH......... a pondering thought....

Maybe MADONION are working together with all computer companies to show us our BENCHMARK's and it makes us compete and SPEND MORE MONEY so we can be the best... just a thought.... doesn't mean it's true.

And one more thing, without BENCHMARKS how would we really know if your buddy down the street has 200 more points than me. Cause with BENCHMARKS, if your friend has a higher score than you, I bet you want to have a higher score, So what do you do........SPEND MORE MONEY.....



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IF IT AIN'T BROKE...........DAM IT, MAKE IT FASTER!!!

 

[metal143]

I think the worst score i ever had on 3DMARK 2001, was with 2 systems ago:

AMD T-bird 850
128 SDRAM
ATI Rage Fury 32 meg
Asus A7V

and the score was 1473

Or close to that, I remember I was almost SICK to my STOMACH, so I went out and UPGRADED within the nest week

Which goes back to my POST 1 up from this one.... WE ARE SPENDING MONEY TO GET A BETTER BENCHMARK!!!

HEEHHE

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IF IT AIN'T BROKE...........DAM IT, MAKE IT FASTER!!!<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by metal143 on 05/21/02 01:35 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[ChipDeath]

Yup, I'm definitely spending money on a higher benchmark score.
My previous system (which I still have) was an Athlon 800Mhz @ 824Mhz & a Geforce 2Ultra, and I got annoyed at not being able to see the DirectX 8 tests in 3DMark2001...
(Was scoring about 3800 or something... may have been 2800? can't remember)
So I built another PC.
Do I notice any difference when playing UT? NO.
Do I notice a huge difference to my credit card balance? YES!

Ah well, at least I can have some good multiplayer run-arounds with a friend now, and not go out and spend money...

What can I say? I'm addicted to SPEED! which I don't notice! how stupid does that make me?

<font color=blue><i>Your</i> PC may be quieter, but <i>my</i> PC makes a better hairdryer!</font color=blue>

 

[sakattack]

You really are clueless !!!

 

[metal143]

Who are you speaking to "sakattack"

Me...... why am I clueless because I have an opinion. That you know is true to a point, or at least some people agree with me about. People are allowd to speak what is on thier mind you know.... but i guess there will always be guys like you around...

Look dude, can ya keep the stupid ass comments to yourself

thanks



IF IT AIN'T BROKE...........DAM IT, MAKE IT FASTER!!!

 

[Conehead]

I'm running a T-bird 850 oc'ed to 950Mhz with 192MB Crucial Pc-133 RAM and an Nvidia Geforce2 Ti and I get roughly 4000 3D Mark scores.

"If there's grass on the field...play ball!!"

 

[sakattack]

1. Do you know the difference between a Radeon 32MB DDR, a Radeon 64MB DDR and a Radeon 8500?

I was getting in the 6,000 with an AMD tbird 978, 512 pc-133, and <b> <font color=green> Radeon 32 DDR</font color=green>. </b> No offence but that's really LOW

I had a AMD 978
512 PC-133 RAM
and <b><font color=green>ATI Radeon 32 DDR </font color=green> </b>
not to mention Asus A7V KT-133 MOBO (Best OVERCLOCKING BOARD)
and the score was 6,000+

I just upgraded my system from:: A7V-133 978Mhz to
A7V333
AMD 1900+
<b><font color=green>ATI Radeon 8500 </font color=green> </b>
Creative Audigy
512 DDR Ram 2.5CL
Maxtor 80gig 133

and now I am Running
Asus A7V333
512 DDR
AMD 1900+ 1.6ghz
<b><font color=green>ATI Radeon 64meg DDR </font color=green> </b>
and getting 8,000+

Score 6348
Date 2002-03-27
CPU AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 978 MHz
<b><font color=green>GPU ATI Radeon 8500 </font color=green> </b>

Score 8610
Date 2002-05-18
CPU AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1620 MHz
<b><font color=green>GPU ATI Radeon 8500 </font color=green> </b>

Apparently not.


2. Do you know the difference between posting a link to a Madonion.com published score of yours and posting a list of your “hypothetical” figures?

3. Or you are under the impression that you posted a link to <b> YOUR</b> scores with that http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectmanager <font color=green> <b> crap </b> </font color=green>?!?!?! <b> <font color=blue>LMAO </font color=blue> </b>

That will only link every individual Madonion member to <b> HIS OWN </b> projectmanager. <font color=blue> <b> ROFL</b> </font color=blue>

Try sth like this <A HREF="http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=1673254 " target="_new">http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=1673254 </A> (best Athlon-1533MHz- & <b> <font color=red> Radeon DDR </font color=red> </b> 3dMark2001 score)

Oohh! But I forgot, you think that Radeon 32MB, Radeon 64MB and Radeon 8500 is the same thing! <b> <font color=blue> LMAO </font color=blue> </b>

Try reading a little first, before you go taunting and insulting others with bullshit.

 

[sakattack]

You should do 3000-4000.

Apart from the latest drivers that phsstpok suggested, you should also keep in mind that you need to stop any other program running (from your task manager).
Also turn off any desktop background theme and try turning the sound off and defragmenting your HDD.

But my best guess is that you may have other tasks running in the background.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by sakattack on 05/21/02 11:16 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[metal143]

sakattack, Um ....DUH I do know the difference between
ATI Radeon 32 DDR (which is the 7200)
and the...
ATI Radeon 8500

excuse me, i mistyped........

um the ATI Radeon 8500 does have 64Meg DDR RAM
so that's why I put it.... but I shall be more specific for you only ok

and really what do I care if people go look at my Project Manager in www.madonion.com anyways.
Those are MY scores.

And if it will make you feel better I will change all my posts that I made mistakes on ok MOM

sakattck you think what I posted up are FAKE scores.. Like is that what your saying. THOSE ARE MY SCORES. Sorry if you can't except it, but if ya like I can bring my system over to your house and run the fuc&in benchmark ....If ya like.

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IF IT AIN'T BROKE...........DAM IT, MAKE IT FASTER!!!

 

[metal143]

There I changed all my mistakes just for "sakattack"

ok, this is my system

Asus A7V KT333
AMD XP 1900+ (1.6) 1620
ATI Radeon 8500 64MEG
512 DDR CL 2.0 RAM
Sound Blaster Audigy 24-bit
Maxtor 80gig 7200 ATA 133

and these are my BENCHMARKS for this system from www.madonion.com

Operating System Microsoft Windows ME
DirectX Version 8.1

Mobo Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Mobo Model A7V333
AGP Rates (Current/Available) 4x / 1x 2x 4x

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1620 MHz
FSB 135 MHz
Memory 512 MB

Graphics Chipset ATI Radeon 8500
Driver Name RADEON 8500/RADEON 8500LE
Driver Version 4.13.01.9031
Video Memory 64 MB

Program Version 3DMark2001 SE
Resolution 1024x768 32bit
Texture Format Compressed
FSAA Disabled
Z-Buffer Depth 24bit
Frame Buffer Double
Rendering Pipeline D3D Pure Hardware T&L





3DMark Score 8610 3D marks

Game 1 Car Chase - Low Detail 127.5 FPS
Game 1 Car Chase - High Detail 46.3 FPS
Game 2 Dragothic - Low Detail 150.0 FPS
Game 2 Dragothic - High Detail 81.2 FPS
Game 3 Lobby - Low Detail 122.3 FPS
Game 3 Lobby - High Detail 56.0 FPS
Game 4 Nature 47.2 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 811.2 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 2048.3 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 light) 37.2 MTriangels/s
High Polygon Count (8 lights) 9.7 MTriangels/s
Environment Bump Mapping 114.0 FPS
DOT3 Bump Mapping 87.7 FPS
Vertex Shader 87.8 FPS
Pixel Shader 101.2 FPS
Advanced Pixel Shader 80.0 FPS
Point Sprite 28.0 MSprites/s

I really don't want to argue with SAKATTACK

Later

IF IT AIN'T BROKE...........DAM IT, MAKE IT FASTER!!!

 

[Guest]

Thanks, but I doubt it is something related to the drivers of the mainboard,as the benchmarks I got on SisoftSandra are ok. However, I noted that, though the "AGP fast write" option is enabled on the Chipset options, the Sisoft Sandra application states that it is "disable". Can it be the source of the problem? Could it be because some of the tests run are skipped during the process ("no hardware support")? Appreciate any additional thoughts!!

PS: The only background application running is the SB Live Surrond Mixer.

 

[Guest]

Could a background application make such a big difference? I guess the only application that I had running was the SB Live Surround Mixer and the Nomad Jukebox detector. Where did you get your version of 3D mark from. Is it shareware? Thanks for the help.

 

[metal143]

Hi Andre,

Goto www.madonion.com to get 3DMARK 2001 SE
yep you can download it, and yes it's SHAREWARE
but you can run 17 of 21 of the tests.

HAVE FUN

IF IT AIN'T BROKE...........DAM IT, MAKE IT FASTER!!!

 

[sakattack]

Disable fast write, set AGP apperture size to at least 64MB (better 128).

Your 3d mark version is ok. Some tests are ment for DirectX 8 hardware support (GF3-4, R8500) so your mx400 will skip them.

Definately kill every background task.
in win98 you should have only system, systray, and explorer running before starting 3dmark.

the latest graph card & motherboard drivers may have a huge impact on your 3dmark score (3d-AGP) but not on Sandra benchmarks (CPU-RAM).
Don't rely on the CDs that came with your hardware.
Download the latest official drivers.

 

[phsstpok]

Usually when 3D peformance is 50% low it is because the AGP driver has not been installed or it is not operating currectly. About 1/3 low can mean that AGP is at 1X, although many things can slow down performance. I always suspect the AGP driver first, though.

Does Sandra detect that AGP is working and if so is it running 1X, 2X, or 4X?

As for Fast Writes, the nVidia drivers disable this function by default to avoid compatibility issues. If you want to try it you will probably need a third party utility like Geforce Tweak to enable Fast Writes for your video card.

I don't use Fast Writes because with my Geforce2 card and Windows 98SE I just get a black screen when Windows is supposed to start. If this happens to you, boot to Safe Mode and disable Fast Writes with Geforce Tweak.

<b>I have so many cookies I now have a FAT problem!</b>