Best 240W GPU?

[antoniodireito]

My computer (HP Elite 8000 SFF) has a 240 watt power supply. Im looking for a GPU with 240 watts or less power requirement that can run garrys mod, 60 fps, whether it be medium or low settings. Please point me in the right direction, i was looking at a GTX 750 ti but that has 300w requirment, would that damage my computer? THx

 

[InvalidError]

The main problem with low power PSUs (if we omit fraudulous ratings and outdated rating methodology) is quality more than quantity. On a good quality 240W PSU following the ATX12V power distribution (at least 80% of the total power rating must be available on +12V rails), you should easily be able to run a GTX1050Ti power-wise.

On the other hand, there aren't many good quality PSUs below 400W and I have no idea how good the OEM PSU used in the HP Elite usually is.

 

[maestro0428]

Have you considered moving the innards to another case that's more user friendly? Then you could use any atx power supply and fit in a larger array of gpus, storage, etc.

 

[maestro0428]

This might work, is the power supply sfx? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151113

 

[antoniodireito]

This might work, is the power supply sfx? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151113

My power supply is unupgradable

 

[antoniodireito]

The main problem with low power PSUs (if we omit fraudulous ratings and outdated rating methodology) is quality more than quantity. On a good quality 240W PSU following the ATX12V power distribution (at least 80% of the total power rating must be available on +12V rails), you should easily be able to run a GTX1050Ti power-wise.

On the other hand, there aren't many good quality PSUs below 400W and I have no idea how good the OEM PSU used in the HP Elite usually is.

The gtx 1050ti would run on a 240 power supply no problem? If so ill buy it

 

[maestro0428]

Are you sure? I don't think the gpu would damage your computer, but it may not boot at all if it doesn't have enough juice.

 

[antoniodireito]

Are you sure? I don't think the gpu would damage your computer, but it may not boot at all if it doesn't have enough juice.

Yeah this computer is shit and i read online the gpu is unchangeable.. So im limited t osomething under 250W pretty much

 

[InvalidError]

The gtx 1050ti would run on a 240 power supply no problem? If so ill buy it

As I wrote, it depends on the PSU's quality and power output distribution. A 1050Ti without PCIe power connector uses less than 80W, which shouldn't be a problem for a decent quality 240W.

For an old Core2 PC though, it might not be worth bothering with a GPU more powerful than a 750Ti and you should be able to get one of those pretty cheap these days.

 

[antoniodireito]

The gtx 1050ti would run on a 240 power supply no problem? If so ill buy it

As I wrote, it depends on the PSU's quality and power output distribution. A 1050Ti without PCIe power connector uses less than 80W, which shouldn't be a problem for a decent quality 240W.

For an old Core2 PC though, it might not be worth bothering with a GPU more powerful than a 750Ti and you should be able to get one of those pretty cheap these days.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487025 the 750Ti has a minimum 300w usage though?

 

[DSzymborski]

The gtx 1050ti would run on a 240 power supply no problem? If so ill buy it

As I wrote, it depends on the PSU's quality and power output distribution. A 1050Ti without PCIe power connector uses less than 80W, which shouldn't be a problem for a decent quality 240W.

For an old Core2 PC though, it might not be worth bothering with a GPU more powerful than a 750Ti and you should be able to get one of those pretty cheap these days.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487025 the 750Ti has a minimum 300w usage though?

Asking about individual GPUs isn't going to do anything until you actually look at the power distribution and tell us; how that 240W output is distributed across the rails is a very big deal.

 

[antoniodireito]

The gtx 1050ti would run on a 240 power supply no problem? If so ill buy it

As I wrote, it depends on the PSU's quality and power output distribution. A 1050Ti without PCIe power connector uses less than 80W, which shouldn't be a problem for a decent quality 240W.

For an old Core2 PC though, it might not be worth bothering with a GPU more powerful than a 750Ti and you should be able to get one of those pretty cheap these days.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487025 the 750Ti has a minimum 300w usage though?

Asking about individual GPUs isn't going to do anything until you actually look at the power distribution and tell us; how that 240W output is distributed across the rails is a very big deal.

How do i do that>

 

[DSzymborski]

The gtx 1050ti would run on a 240 power supply no problem? If so ill buy it

As I wrote, it depends on the PSU's quality and power output distribution. A 1050Ti without PCIe power connector uses less than 80W, which shouldn't be a problem for a decent quality 240W.

For an old Core2 PC though, it might not be worth bothering with a GPU more powerful than a 750Ti and you should be able to get one of those pretty cheap these days.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487025 the 750Ti has a minimum 300w usage though?

Asking about individual GPUs isn't going to do anything until you actually look at the power distribution and tell us; how that 240W output is distributed across the rails is a very big deal.

How do i do that>

There should be a chart directly on the PSU.

 

[antoniodireito]

The gtx 1050ti would run on a 240 power supply no problem? If so ill buy it

As I wrote, it depends on the PSU's quality and power output distribution. A 1050Ti without PCIe power connector uses less than 80W, which shouldn't be a problem for a decent quality 240W.

For an old Core2 PC though, it might not be worth bothering with a GPU more powerful than a 750Ti and you should be able to get one of those pretty cheap these days.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487025 the 750Ti has a minimum 300w usage though?

Asking about individual GPUs isn't going to do anything until you actually look at the power distribution and tell us; how that 240W output is distributed across the rails is a very big deal.

How do i do that>

There should be a chart directly on the PSU.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/275342/Hp-Compaq-Elite-8000-Cmt.html?page=76#manual there it is on page 76. So can i run a 750ti? page 77 has more info

 

[DSzymborski]

The gtx 1050ti would run on a 240 power supply no problem? If so ill buy it

As I wrote, it depends on the PSU's quality and power output distribution. A 1050Ti without PCIe power connector uses less than 80W, which shouldn't be a problem for a decent quality 240W.

For an old Core2 PC though, it might not be worth bothering with a GPU more powerful than a 750Ti and you should be able to get one of those pretty cheap these days.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487025 the 750Ti has a minimum 300w usage though?

Asking about individual GPUs isn't going to do anything until you actually look at the power distribution and tell us; how that 240W output is distributed across the rails is a very big deal.

How do i do that>

There should be a chart directly on the PSU.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/275342/Hp-Compaq-Elite-8000-Cmt.html?page=76#manual there it is on page 76. So can i run a 750ti? page 77 has more info

I certainly wouldn't. That's 168W of +12V, which is the important one. Given that this is a decade old, I would absolutely not push the envelope.

 

[antoniodireito]

The gtx 1050ti would run on a 240 power supply no problem? If so ill buy it

As I wrote, it depends on the PSU's quality and power output distribution. A 1050Ti without PCIe power connector uses less than 80W, which shouldn't be a problem for a decent quality 240W.

For an old Core2 PC though, it might not be worth bothering with a GPU more powerful than a 750Ti and you should be able to get one of those pretty cheap these days.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487025 the 750Ti has a minimum 300w usage though?

Asking about individual GPUs isn't going to do anything until you actually look at the power distribution and tell us; how that 240W output is distributed across the rails is a very big deal.

How do i do that>

There should be a chart directly on the PSU.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/275342/Hp-Compaq-Elite-8000-Cmt.html?page=76#manual there it is on page 76. So can i run a 750ti? page 77 has more info

I certainly wouldn't. That's 168W of +12V, which is the important one. Given that this is a decade old, I would absolutely not push the envelope.

After seeing that could you recomend me the most powerful GPU that would not fry my whole computer? thanks for your help im super nooby at this stuf

 

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After seeing that could you recomend me the most powerful GPU that would not fry my whole computer? thanks for your help im super nooby at this stuf

All the entry-level GPUs worth having are in the 70-100W range - I'm talking about the GPU's own power consumption here, not the GPU manufacturer's bogus 300+W recommended or "required" PSU rating. My whole system including LCD and a few accessories uses only 220W under full load and that includes PSU losses, which means that my PSU's total output load is well below 200W despite the 1050 "requiring" a 300W PSU.

Considering that the PSU only has 160ish watts on the +12V rail and is over a decade old though, I wouldn't recommend putting a decent GPU in there before upgrading to a PSU with more capacity on 12V. If you put any GPU worth having in there, the PC might not boot, may randomly restart or the PSU may fail altogether due to an overloaded 12V rail. At least not before having a look inside the PSU to see how well it has been holding up and possibly putting in new high quality capacitors in if the original ones aren't already top-brands like Nippon/United Chemi-Con, Rubycon or Panasonic/Matsushita.

 

[antoniodireito]

After seeing that could you recomend me the most powerful GPU that would not fry my whole computer? thanks for your help im super nooby at this stuf

All the entry-level GPUs worth having are in the 70-100W range - I'm talking about the GPU's own power consumption here, not the GPU manufacturer's bogus 300+W recommended or "required" PSU rating. My whole system including LCD and a few accessories uses only 220W under full load and that includes PSU losses, which means that my PSU's total output load is well below 200W despite the 1050 "requiring" a 300W PSU.

Considering that the PSU only has 160ish watts on the +12V rail and is over a decade old though, I wouldn't recommend putting a decent GPU in there before upgrading to a PSU with more capacity on 12V. If you put any GPU worth having in there, the PC might not boot, may randomly restart or the PSU may fail altogether due to an overloaded 12V rail. At least not before having a look inside the PSU to see how well it has been holding up and possibly putting in new high quality capacitors in if the original ones aren't already top-brands like Nippon/United Chemi-Con, Rubycon or Panasonic/Matsushita.

Well my psu is unupgradable. Im stuck with this shit. I was thinking of getting a gtx 750.. is that dangerous for my system? Is there anything; anything at all, that wouldnt destroy my system, that would help me with fps in cs go and gmod?

 

[DSzymborski]

After seeing that could you recomend me the most powerful GPU that would not fry my whole computer? thanks for your help im super nooby at this stuf

All the entry-level GPUs worth having are in the 70-100W range - I'm talking about the GPU's own power consumption here, not the GPU manufacturer's bogus 300+W recommended or "required" PSU rating. My whole system including LCD and a few accessories uses only 220W under full load and that includes PSU losses, which means that my PSU's total output load is well below 200W despite the 1050 "requiring" a 300W PSU.

Considering that the PSU only has 160ish watts on the +12V rail and is over a decade old though, I wouldn't recommend putting a decent GPU in there before upgrading to a PSU with more capacity on 12V. If you put any GPU worth having in there, the PC might not boot, may randomly restart or the PSU may fail altogether due to an overloaded 12V rail. At least not before having a look inside the PSU to see how well it has been holding up and possibly putting in new high quality capacitors in if the original ones aren't already top-brands like Nippon/United Chemi-Con, Rubycon or Panasonic/Matsushita.

Well my psu is unupgradable. Im stuck with this shit. I was thinking of getting a gtx 750.. is that dangerous for my system? Is there anything; anything at all, that wouldnt destroy my system, that would help me with fps in cs go and gmod?

You essentially run into the same problem. I would only feel safe with something lower-powered. A GT 740 maxes out at around 60W, and that's as far as I'd push and even I wouldn't feel super confident about that.

These types of PCs are absolutely horrid for upgrades, unfortunately. You're honestly better off finding some old used Core2Quad mini-tower on eBay and slapping in an entry-level GPU.

 

[antoniodireito]

After seeing that could you recomend me the most powerful GPU that would not fry my whole computer? thanks for your help im super nooby at this
stuf

All the entry-level GPUs worth having are in the 70-100W range - I'm talking about the GPU's own power consumption here, not the GPU manufacturer's bogus 300+W recommended or "required" PSU rating. My whole system including LCD and a few accessories uses only 220W under full load and that includes PSU losses, which means that my PSU's total output load is well below 200W despite the 1050 "requiring" a 300W PSU.

Considering that the PSU only has 160ish watts on the +12V rail and is over a decade old though, I wouldn't recommend putting a decent GPU in there before upgrading to a PSU with more capacity on 12V. If you put any GPU worth having in there, the PC might not boot, may randomly restart or the PSU may fail altogether due to an overloaded 12V rail. At least not before having a look inside the PSU to see how well it has been holding up and possibly putting in new high quality capacitors in if the original ones aren't already top-brands like Nippon/United Chemi-Con, Rubycon or Panasonic/Matsushita.

Well my psu is unupgradable. Im stuck with this shit. I was thinking of getting a gtx 750.. is that dangerous for my system? Is there anything; anything at all, that wouldnt destroy my system, that would help me with fps in cs go and gmod?

You essentially run into the same problem. I would only feel safe with something lower-powered. A GT 740 maxes out at around 60W, and that's as far as I'd push and even I wouldn't feel super confident about that.

These types of PCs are absolutely horrid for upgrades, unfortunately. You're honestly better off finding some old used Core2Quad mini-tower on eBay and slapping in an entry-level GPU.

Thanks for all your help I'll look into it thanks

 

[InvalidError]

Well my psu is unupgradable. Im stuck with this shit.

As someone may have already have mentioned, you might be able to transplant your PC's innards into a standard PC tower and put a new PSU in that if you can't find one that fits your SFF.

If that isn't an option either, then buying something newer based on standard form factors on the used market might be your next best option.