Best 478 Mobo? ASus P4c800e vs Gigabyte GA-8KNXP U

tj2004

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Which board for a Pentium 3.2 GHz E?

Hi there,
I wish to upgrade my pc mainly because of stability issues which I cannot wholey rectify and am now fed up. My current set up is:
Asus P4s8x mobo
CPU P4 2.4 533 FSB
RAM ocz pc2700 256 mbx2, ocz pc3200 (copper) 512 x1
PSU Q technology 400 W
PATA IDE: Deskstar 120 GB x2, WESTERN DIGITAL 200 GB 8mbx1, Seagate 80 GBx1
Promise 2 pata pci controller
Pioneer 16x dvd rom, liton 52x cdrw, sony dru 600A dvd rw

I mainly use my sytem for video edition/ encoding, wiht some general application use such as Office, Internet, Paintshop. I basically never game

I think the stability issue is primarily the pc3200 with the board, is not compatible and no matter how i have treid cannot unraval and sort out the stability. MEM test seems to run ok though.

Been christmas funds are sort of limted and I was thinking of spending around the £200-£220 mark max. With Dual core chips on the horizon although i do not expect them to really be mainstream big time until 206/2007 I thought I would simply upgrade for now recycling my current setup. Intially mobo and memory (replace the pc270o with an identical pc3200 and running it dual channel) and a little later, maybe a few months upgrade the cpu to either a 3.2 GB 1mb cache p4 or a 3.4 (the cpu tests http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041221/cpu_charts-18.html seem to suggest for the video encoding side that the 3.2 P4 E is slightly better than the AMD Newcastle 3.4, the next superior amd been the 3.7 Clawhammer, although admiting amd is better in other areas).
I realise the pata set up is not ideal but needed the space at the time and sata were not heavily big on GB at the time. Maybe oin a few months I will also upgrade to some big SATA drives eg the Maxtor 300 GB 16 MB cache or something (we will see nearer the time).

So with my plan the first is the mobo. Now the Gigabyte seems to have some interesting options http://www.tomshardware.com/firstlook/20040817/index.html , esp in terms of hdd support but I have not seen any head to head comparisions with the asus which seems very good although the reviews now for it are getting on the old side. But I confess I am an pc novice too.




<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TJ2004 on 01/02/05 04:05 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
I have similar setup and that board is stable. But I don't overclock, yet with CIA enabled, CPU runs at 3280mhz

My Rig:
Gigabyte 8KNXP Ultra=64 board
P4 Prescott 3200
Gigabyte 3D Cooler Pro
2 gig Corsair 2-2-2-5 DDR
74gig Raptor
2x250MB Maxtor Maxline drives
ATI X800XT PE video
ATI TV Wonder Pro Tuner
PCMCIA card reader
Plextor 712SA DVD writer
Black SF-201T Aluminum Case
Antec True 430watt PSU
CyberPower - 1500AVR-HO UPS

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I wouldn't get the Asus board, they're faulty. Tom's actually modified theirs to make it work for their big overclock article.

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Q-technologies (usually Q-tec) are the worst PSU's out there. Your instability probably is caused bij that Q-tec thing. I would really try your system with another PSU and if you upgrade anyway, get a new one.
 
Thanks for the PSU advice, which one would you recommend? Preferably a quieter one but quality to be honest is more important.

Also Rich, I probably will not overclock for a while until later. I take it you have found the gigabyte it to be a good mobo?

Is the Asus really faulty it has good write ups mostly, and even in the head to head round up on tomshardware site.... I believe it has some ram probs though with over clocking.
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TJ2004 on 01/03/05 07:49 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
I don't know much about which PSU is best but most people use something like Antec, Tagan, Thermaltake, Enermax, Fortron or Sharkoon. If you get a 350W+ of one of these brands is will do a good job, but check the PSU section and suggest a PSU, they will know if it's any good or not.
 
Crash, do you know if it is possible to moddify the asus board like toms hardware did?
What would have to be done?
Thanks



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I only toyed with overclocking, I have too much money invested and needed a solid stable machine to perform, and that it has. One day I will get a watercooling setup for it, then I will overclock.

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Don't get the Asus, do any mods to it, warranty is void.

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1. Anyone any idea where to get the gigabyte 8KNXP ultra board from? I cannot find it from the usual online stores?

2. If I cannot get the gigabyte 8KNXP ultra, which is the best next to go for the 8KNXP? According to tomshardware review the bios was o/c by default hence maybe the comparison was mildly tarnished, also the gigabyte seemed to be less stable in the memory department than the Asus. I have not really read anywhere else about the Asus's voltage problems - these concern me are they not correctable?

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TJ2004 on 01/07/05 07:45 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
<A HREF="http://search.ebay.com/8knxp_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ1QQfromZR8" target="_new"> Ebay </A>

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