Question best bios config for ryzen 3600, msi tomahawk b450. My tests included

[Sacrificial animal]

my pc:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49630669173_610ac13431_o.png

tested in gta 5:
worst benchmark:
Global C-state contol : enabled;
amd cool and quiet: enabled
PCCP enabled
PCCP prefered cores: enabled
configs pic:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49631194851_c888454425_o.jpg
benchmark pic:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49631224471_0526bfabdd_o.png

best benchmark :
Global C-state contol : disabled;
amd cool and quiet: disabled
PCCP disabled
PCCP prefered cores: disabled
benchmark pic:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49631232776_da681b1792_o.png

xmp 1
so what else should i switch to achieve best performance? idc about power consumption

 

[velocityg4]

What video card are you using and settings for GTA V? Because a Ryzen 2600 at default settings should easily blow past 60 FPS in GTA V. My old i5-3570K blows past 60FPS without OC. Looking at one set of Benchmarks a Ryzen 2600 should be capable around 100FPS in GTA V when the GPU is not a limiting factor.

 

[Sacrificial animal]

it's gtx 1050ti,
options that everyone recommends to enable causes so much fps drop

 

[zx128k]

You should be able to overclock the RAM a bit. Maybe tighten the timings. It looks to be a Hynix kit.



useful

 

[velocityg4]

it's gtx 1050ti,
options that everyone recommends to enable causes so much fps drop

Put all GTA V settings to minimum and see what FPS you get. Then you can start futzing with them to improve quality. Only a few settings effect CPU usage most are GPU related. The idea being you want to rule out the GPU before you blame the CPU.

 

[Sacrificial animal]

great answer for my question (nope)

 

[zx128k]

great answer for my question (nope)

The 1050ti is not the best performance gpu. You will have to reduce the graphics settings to get the best experience in most games and run at 1080p at most. GTA 5 if I remember is a 2013 game. I don't play it myself but have seen the youtube graphics mods.

AMD cpu's benefit from low latency on the RAM. Most people get samsung b-die and tighten their timings and overclock the ram to at least 3600 or 3800 if they can (so the IF is at 1800-1900). Samsung b-die allows for very tight timings at lower voltages than other kits and can take up to 1.5volts when overclocked. Be careful with RAM voltage as some IC's will die if you use too much. Hynix I believe has a maximum of 1.45volts but you need to research this yourself. This will increase the fps but with such a weak gpu its not going to give you much in the way of performance. A few fps at best. This does work well if you have a good gpu, like a 2080 for example.

The other option is get a better gpu and save yourself the trouble of making lots of bios changes just to chase a few extra fps.

 

[Sacrificial animal]

the problem i displayed in screens can't be from gpu because it was the same all time

 

[Sacrificial animal]

ns that eve

my pc:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49630669173_610ac13431_o.png

tested in gta 5:
worst benchmark:
Global C-state contol : enabled;
amd cool and quiet: enabled
PCCP enabled
PCCP prefered cores: enabled
configs pic:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49631194851_c888454425_o.jpg
benchmark pic:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49631224471_0526bfabdd_o.png

best benchmark :
Global C-state contol : disabled;
amd cool and quiet: disabled
PCCP disabled
PCCP prefered cores: disabled
benchmark pic:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49631232776_da681b1792_o.png

xmp 1
so what else should i switch to achieve best performance? idc about power consumption

Also, I have a general question: Do you know why the RAM runs at 2400MHz, while the default speed for the kit is 3200?

 

[zx128k]

Also, I have a general question: Do you know why the RAM runs at 2400MHz, while the default speed for the kit is 3200?

I would check your bios settings.

 

[Sacrificial animal]

I would check your bios settings.

 

[zx128k]

You dont have XMP loaded in your BIOS. So the BIOS set it to 2400. Under overclocking you have A-XMP, there are two profiles for DDR4 3200 16-16-18-36.

 

[HeerZakdoeK]

I wouldn't bother with XMP on this board. There's timings called 'Just try these' a few rows down in the OC menu. Select the one with your timings but at 3600 instead of 3200. If it's a half decent bin, it'll boot.

 

[zx128k]

I wouldn't bother with XMP on this board. There's timings called 'Just try these' a few rows down in the OC menu. Select the one with your timings but at 3600 instead of 3200. If it's a half decent bin, it'll boot.

If he foed that he will have to run hours of stablity tests. He will also have to increase the IF speed to 1800.

 

[HeerZakdoeK]

You should be able to overclock the RAM a bit. Maybe tighten the timings. It looks to be a Hynix kit.



useful

If he foed that he will have to run hours of stablity tests. He will also have to increase the IF speed to 1800.

2133 MHz for Ryzen. 2400 will work at 16 18 38 and higher voltage.

 

[HeerZakdoeK]

my pc:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49630669173_610ac13431_o.png

tested in gta 5:
worst benchmark:
Global C-state contol : enabled;
amd cool and quiet: enabled
PCCP enabled
PCCP prefered cores: enabled
configs pic:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49631194851_c888454425_o.jpg
benchmark pic:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49631224471_0526bfabdd_o.png

best benchmark :
Global C-state contol : disabled;
amd cool and quiet: disabled
PCCP disabled
PCCP prefered cores: disabled
benchmark pic:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49631232776_da681b1792_o.png

xmp 1
so what else should i switch to achieve best performance? idc about power consumption

If you want the highest speed over almost the entire board with the least stutter you'll want 3600 ( - 3800 ) DDR4. Clock it there from budget 3200c16-18 RAM ideally or just go for a 3600c18-20/22 kit.

CPU voltage at offset -0.1V the 2 VDDGs at 0.950V, VDDP (Phy DDR4 bus) on auto. Core boost/Fmax on, PBO fully open with AMD defined limits. Disable TMSE and virtualization too if it's not state secrets or bank accounts on your PC and you don't need Virtual PCs.

 

[HeerZakdoeK]

If you want the highest speed over almost the entire board with the least stutter you'll want 3600 ( - 3800 ) DDR4. Clock it there from budget 3200c16-18 RAM ideally or just go for a 3600c18-20/22. 1 kit of dual rank 16Gb DDR4 will be easiest for all purposes besides the overclock.

CPU voltage at offset -0.1V the 2 VDDGs at 0.950V, VDDP (Phy DDR4 bus) on auto. Core boost/Fmax on, PBO fully open with AMD defined limits. Disable TMSE and virtualization too if it's not state secrets or bank accounts on your PC and you don't need Virtual PCs.

 

[Sacrificial animal]

You dont have XMP loaded in your BIOS. So the BIOS set it to 2400. Under overclocking you have A-XMP, there are two profiles for DDR4 3200 16-16-18-36.

i don't use it because it causes blue screen which windows can't handle and can't boot into windows if i don't turn it off

 

[Sacrificial animal]

Did I correctly understand that the frequency listed on the internet shop for my RAM represents the frequency I will achieve with XMP or other overclocking methods, while the actual stable frequency is lower?

 

[zx128k]

i don't use it because it causes blue screen which windows can't handle and can't boot into windows if i don't turn it off

Thats what I was afraid off happening.

 

[HeerZakdoeK]

Did I correctly understand that the frequency listed on the internet shop for my RAM represents the frequency I will achieve with XMP or other overclocking methods, while the actual stable frequency is lower?

It is the frequency and speed the manufacturer says is stable for Intel's memory controller, when it is put under a higher voltage (1.35 V usually).

Think of Jedec as the same but at 1.2 V, for the sake of argument.

I checked some auto overclock settings on my MSI B450 board and they still use extremely wide refresh cycles (tRC 75 and tRFC 560), which should be very easy to handle for AMD, so something is off there, man.

Save your BIOS, put everything to default, reboot back into BIOS, set A-XMP and reboot. If this fails, do it again but set DRAM voltage at 1.4V.