Best build for 1080p 60FPS+ (R7 2700 vs i7-8700K)

[im_shadows]

I'm in doubt as to which CPU to pick. It is clear for me that AMD CPUs have a higher cost benefit than Intel CPUs, and in addition offering more cores and threads than Intel, allowing OC on any CPU, including stock coolers and with a path for future upgrades. For these reasons I've already discarded the 6C/6T i5 from my list, even though it's getting great results in games, the 6C/6T without hyper-threading does not seem to me to be the most balanced option for the future. This leaves me with some builds:
AMD
ASUS Prime B350-Plus / X370 of similar price
Ryzen 7 1700 (8C/16T) / Ryzen 7 1800x (8C/16T) / Ryzen 6 2600x (6C/12T) / Ryzen 7 2700 (8C/16T)
2x8GB 2800Mhz
GTX 1070
(Regardless of the CPU, there's almost no price difference, even in the case of the 1800x, that doesn't include a stock cooler.)
Intel
ASUS TUF B360M-Plus Gaming/BR
i7-8700K (6C/12T)
DeepCool Gamma Archer DP-MCAL-GA
2x8GB 3000Mhz
GTX 1060 6GB
The AMD build was made by me, and the Intel one is selled here at a local store (in Brazil, that's why I don't put monetary values). Any AMD CPU + 1070 is the same price as 8700k + 1060 6GB. For me, it looks like AMD CPUs offer more for their price. Here in Brazil i7-8700K is the double of an 2600x. And a R7 2700x is 30% cheaper than i7-8700K. Since it's difficult to talk about the monetary side, let's talk about performance. Is it worth it to get a better CPU (for gaming) with a less powerful GPU, or it's better to get a better GPU with a less powerful CPU (for gaming)?
Thinking out loud, considering price and performance (aka cost benefit), I would take the R7 2700 with a GTX 1070. The 2700x is much more expensive than the others.
Some clarifications that I forgot to mention above:
* PC is mainly for gaming (1080p, 60hz), especially AAA titles, on ultra +60fps (I know that more than 60fps will not be perceptible in the 60hz monitor, but I'm looking for more than 60fps in order to run the future releases smoothly, with a minimum of 60fps).
* I chose the 2700 because it, among all AMD CPUs, is the one that offers more resources. I know that in certain games, as in the case of the i5, the 2600x takes advantage because of its higher clock.
* The choice of the CPUs and GPUs above can be considered an overkill (for 1080p 60hz), but it is due to the fact that I have the habit of changing my machine from its long periods of time. My current machine, for example, it's from 2012.

 

[bmockeg]

GPUs play a larger role in the majority of games. A Ryzen 2600 is more than capable enough to push 60FPS with a 1070GTX. Anything above that is up to you based on what you would like to spend. For now, 6 cores are the sweet spot and 8 have no added benefit for gaming purposes.

 

[vMax]

The 1070 will be the factor in this case and will almost certainly provide better frame rates than the 1060 regardless of which CPU be it Ryzen or Intel. The 1070 build for me as it will be a perfect match for a 2600 which will be more than enough....Though prices are falling. Seen a 1080 for $449 now new and probably lower on ebay..

 

[arif1752002m4a1]

In CPUs
Intel is king of gaming. Because all games(mostly) optimized for Intel. And Intel core i7 8700k is gaming beast.

 

[vMax]

In CPUs
Intel is king of gaming. Because all games(mostly) optimized for Intel. And Intel core i7 8700k is gaming beast.

Yes the Intel 8700K is a great. I have one but for what he wants which is 1080P at 60 frames, the Ryzen and 1070 will do a great job and save him money....even an i5-8400 and 1070 will do a great job.

 

[punkncat]

My current build is an R7 1700 with a GTX1080. I play every title I have at the highest settings (1080p). See a SOLID 60 frames on Ashes of the Singularity maxxed out. Given the clear out pricing on the 1700 and 1080 I think it's a great way to get solid performance for less cash.

 

[arif1752002m4a1]

In CPUs
Intel is king of gaming. Because all games(mostly) optimized for Intel. And Intel core i7 8700k is gaming beast.

Yes the Intel 8700K is a great. I have one but for what he wants which is 1080P at 60 frames, the Ryzen and 1070 will do a great job and save him money....even an i5-8400 and 1070 will do a great job.

Definitely even i5 8400 can beat Ryzen 5 1600x.
At same price.
And 1070 is not good it is fantastic....

 

[im_shadows]

GPUs play a larger role in the majority of games. A Ryzen 2600 is more than capable enough to push 60FPS with a 1070GTX. Anything above that is up to you based on what you would like to spend. For now, 6 cores are the sweet spot and 8 have no added benefit for gaming purposes.

For now it seems that "6 cores are the sweet spot and 8 have no added benefit for gaming purposes", but I think that, if both CPUs have the same price, I would rather take the 8 core CPU than the 6 core one, even if the 6 core has a higher clock speed. And, as I mentioned, here in Brazil, the 1700, 1800x, 2600, 2600x and 2700 have a very similar price, what makes me think to get the one that offers more resources.

 

[vMax]

GPUs play a larger role in the majority of games. A Ryzen 2600 is more than capable enough to push 60FPS with a 1070GTX. Anything above that is up to you based on what you would like to spend. For now, 6 cores are the sweet spot and 8 have no added benefit for gaming purposes.

For now it seems that "6 cores are the sweet spot and 8 have no added benefit for gaming purposes", but I think that, if both CPUs have the same price, I would rather take the 8 core CPU than the 6 core one, even if the 6 core has a higher clock speed. And, as I mentioned, here in Brazil, the 1700, 1800x, 2600, 2600x and 2700 have a very similar price, what makes me think to get the one that offers more resources.

Absolutely agree especially if the pricing is so close...8 cores will always be better than 6 especially in the long run..

 

[bmockeg]

You should get whatever CPU you think is best. The point is an 8 core won't give you any performance boost in gaming over a 6 core for years. Your price to FPS at a 2600 is the sweet spot. Feel free to get a 2700x even but you won't get an FPS boost relative to the cost.

 

[nmb255]

As stated by others, the CPU is not the defining factor between these two builds. Much more important [IMO] is that one has a GTX1060 and the other a GTX1070. The later is the stronger GPU and that is where it will matter.

So I would take [at least] a GTX1070 and then work back through the CPU from 8700k to 1700 until to get a price that you are comfortable with.

With the new GPUs release next month, offers on the GTX10xx are expected so look carefully and check the prices properly before you click buy.

 

[julienruc]

Depends if you're only gaming or if you also use the setup as a workstation.

In a general way:
- Intel is better for games
- Ryzen is better for work, design and most non-game apps

In the current state of games in the world, your Ryzen choice will be able to output the vast majority of games as effienctly as the Intel CPU, for at least the next couple of years. So for me, the pros and cons would be that Ryzen is cheaper, offers a 3-year warranty instead of 1 year for Intel, and includes a CPU cooler.

I would recommend Ryzen