Best cpu and gpu for Video editing ?

[rikoma17]

An fx 8320 does well in those apps, and costs like the half of a i7, the 9590 is a very bad choice, doesnt perform as well as a i7 4790k, and in the end, is more expensive, considering that water cooling is a must on fx 9xxx cpus.

I agree. The power consumption is THREE times the power consumption of the 4790k. I know, AMD seems like the "cheaper and more efficent alternative" but unless you are buying the FX-8350, (which would cause your rendering times to take a hit) AMD is a horrible option. They are getting close to bankruptcy. The 9590 is an absolute joke. It does at 4.7ghz and three times the amount of power which the i7 4790 (non k version) can do at 3.6ghz and 80w compared to the ridiculous 220w power consumption...

I can make you a FX-8350 build for under $700 USD, but the 9590... You're on your own. I simply couldn't recommend that.

Id skip on the i74790k, temps have been extreme for countless users... myself included.

A $30 cooler fixes the problem.

No, it doesnt. Even hundred dollar coolers do not fix the problem. h100i and temps still hitting into the lower 90`s. No es bueno.

Yes it does. If you are getting in the lower 90's with an H105 then you have a problem going on. My H105 (slightly thicker and with better fans) hits not where near that and the difference bewteen my cooling set up and yours is not that great that you should be getting almost double of what I get in terms of temps.

Thanks a lot I've gone for the fx-8350 after all the great things about it here and used the money I saved to get another 8gb of ram

 

[sla70r]

An fx 8320 does well in those apps, and costs like the half of a i7, the 9590 is a very bad choice, doesnt perform as well as a i7 4790k, and in the end, is more expensive, considering that water cooling is a must on fx 9xxx cpus.

I agree. The power consumption is THREE times the power consumption of the 4790k. I know, AMD seems like the "cheaper and more efficent alternative" but unless you are buying the FX-8350, (which would cause your rendering times to take a hit) AMD is a horrible option. They are getting close to bankruptcy. The 9590 is an absolute joke. It does at 4.7ghz and three times the amount of power which the i7 4790 (non k version) can do at 3.6ghz and 80w compared to the ridiculous 220w power consumption...

I can make you a FX-8350 build for under $700 USD, but the 9590... You're on your own. I simply couldn't recommend that.

Id skip on the i74790k, temps have been extreme for countless users... myself included.

A $30 cooler fixes the problem.

No, it doesnt. Even hundred dollar coolers do not fix the problem. h100i and temps still hitting into the lower 90`s. No es bueno.

Yes it does. If you are getting in the lower 90's with an H105 then you have a problem going on. My H105 (slightly thicker and with better fans) hits not where near that and the difference bewteen my cooling set up and yours is not that great that you should be getting almost double of what I get in terms of temps.

Should be yes.

 

[DMG5760]

The gtx 950 is a pretty descant for $150

 

[RME20]

Hold up, what programs are you using? Premiere and Adobe programs utilize CUDA cores better than open CL, meaning that Nvidia is a better choice than ATI for graphics cards. Sony Vegas on the other hand, runs SLOWER with GPU acceleration on with a Nvidia card, so you must get ATI. It is basically open CL exclusive.

GPU is not important in video rendering. It can help a bit, but video cards are more important for things like 3d modeling such as Maya and Cinema 4D.

Do not go the AMD route unless you are willing to give up speed. If you are on a tight, tight, budget, get the FX-8350 paired with a GPU that will compliment whatever programs you use (once again, please tell us)

If I could re-do my build again, I would no doubt get the 5820k. It is the first time EVER that we have seen a 6 core processor become affordable to the average user... For only 380 bucks you are getting an absolute powerhouse for video editing. The DDR4 ram and x99 motherboards is as close to future proofing as you could possibly get. Depending on what you need you could get one of the most efficient machines imaginable for around $1000 bucks.

Go the AMD route and you will receive significantly slower rendering times, but you will have a lot more money to spend on partying 😛

The 4790k is an option too. This is the CPU I have and I like it. I will never use an intel stock fan/heatsink again though, you have to buy an aftermarket cooler. I am happy with the performance I get. It takes me 2.1 minutes to render 1 minute of video, although I am relearning and none of the formats are the same as they were 2-3 years ago.

Great thread here guys!

What motherboard and GPU would you pair with the i7 5820k?

 

[DMG5760]

I'm using 5930k with the 980ti and Asus x99 duluxe. Go with Asus or gigabyte if possable

 

[RME20]

I'm using 5930k with the 980ti and Asus x99 duluxe. Go with Asus or gigabyte if possable

Thanks for sharing.

Have you used it with After Effects?

My MacBook pro just can't handle it with 4k.

 

[DMG5760]

It's the CPU and gpu you are using after affects is better for nvidia then amd on the gpu side and Mac Pro what CPU

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I think 5820K is best. I would avoid the FX 9590. You need to pay for a premium motherboard and top-notch cooling to run that thing, and it's just not worth it with an option like the 5820K that blows the I7-6700K even out of the water for video editing, especially with an overclock.

 

[DMG5760]

Also 4K is slow on any system a 980ti it one of the top 2 gpus for the public and any higher on CPU side your going with a 24 core exon or something like that ... Over 1k btw the hard drive is a big limitation once you have a system like that you need SSDs in a raid or m.2 else it will slow your high end hardware no optical drive should be used ever with 4K but I'm doing raw avi 1tb

 

[DMG5760]

Amd is great for a budget but not high end unfortunately

 

[aditya_20]

Let me break down for you what you need to understand when looking for PC parts.

CPU: Central processing unit. Responsible for rendering. The more cores and speed, the less waiting around you have to do. Also note that instructions and L# cache can make a big difference in the effectiveness of a CPU in rendering. Always make sure you are buying the current generation of processors.

GPU: Graphics processing unit. The use of this depends on the program you are using. With some programs this will accelerate the rendering speeds of your videos. Without one, you will not be able to view your videos in 4k because intel HD graphics does not support such resolution* You will also need this for tri-monitor set ups. There are two different types of GPU's: consumer grade and professional. Consumer grade is the everyday cards you see. Ex, GTX 760. Professional is the quadro cards made for mad scientists and Hollywood film enthusiasts. They will range from $400-4000. If you ever intend to do any sort of gaming ever on your PC, do not get the Quadro's! They are not officially supported. 256 bit bus is twice as fast as 128 bit bus. The higher RAM, the better. More ram is better for more monitors. Example, if you are only using one monitor, 256 bit bus with 1gb ram is a better option than 128bit bus with 2gb ram, which would be better for tri-monitor (assuming they are same price.) CUDA is a technology developed by Nvidia to assist in rendering, while its counterpart is Open-CL, developed by AMD's ATI. The choice depends on which video editing program you seek to use.

STORAGE: Hard drives, SSD's... RAM drives... Everybody loves lots of storage, but what about performance? The common trend gamers and video editors are following is this: SSD drive dedicated for OS and editing programs and a HDD for storing video. SSD's come in all shapes and sizes (not really, they are all 2.5") and only some brands are trusted to not fail and keep their promised speeds of 5x faster than a HDD. The most notorious brand for SSD's is Samsung and arguably Intel. Samsung lead the revolution of SSD's with its extremely low failure rate. Intel and other companies have adopted similar technology to make SSD's a great alternative. Some other brands that are trusted besides Samsung and Intel are: Mushkin, Crucial, Kingston, Sillicone Power. Samsung and Intel are the fastest, though. So let me break it down.

SSD's: Very fast performance. It's 2015, you must own one, or else you are... an idiot. I bought a Intel 730 240gb and I have all my editing programs + 10 games and it is getting full (80%) and has started to slow down the write speeds but not the read, and I could fix this by clearing up some storage.

HDD's: Only get 7200 RPM. WD and Seagate are the most common brands. If you are on a budget, get the WD Blue. It is cheap and it works. For more reliability, get the HGST deskstar. It is high performance WD drive.

RAID: The most important term for you to understand with HDD's is RAID. RAID, or striping, is extremely important when working with 4k, 3d or high resolution material. RAID 0 removes the virtual barrier between two HDD's so that you may double the speeds of two HDD's and combine their storage into one. If you buy any Z97 or x99 motherboard, I can assure you it has RAID built inside of it. All you would have to do is enable it in the BIOS and BAM, your drives just doubled in speed! It is not a bad idea to buy two 1TB drives to make your own 2TB 14000 RPM drive.

Motherboards: There is a common misconception that motherboards can become a "bottleneck" in the performance of your system. This is not true: motherboards will give you the same output for your CPU no matter what. The only difference is things like PCIe lanes and other bells and whistles which are optional. Example, two graphics cards slots, on board audio, PCIe lanes, wifi, and other such things. For video editing, I would get one with good on board sound, or be prepared to add a sound card if you want to make sure your sound is premium rather than just great.

RAM: Random access memory. This will determine the amount of pre rendered footage available for preview in After Effects and other programs. It will not effect rendering speeds, and is a great commodity when needed, although not crucial. 16gb is good, 8gb is limiting.

PSU: This is the most misunderstood conundrum in computing because people think that the only thing that matters is the efficiency rating. Sure, saving 5% in power can be a great way to help save the environment (and your wallet) but ultimately that $20 a year you save in power because you went Gold over Bronze in the 80+ efficiency rating won't mean a damn thing if it starts popping silicone popcorn and burns your house down. In fact, power supplies are so important this guy called jonnyguru gets paid to review them for a living. Some notable brands for power supplies are Seasonic, and xFx. There is a team of japanese that make the best power supplies in the world. Their name is not ringing a bell right now, but I would get one of the power supplies they engineered. You can find the best power supplies on jonnyguru.com


**NEWS**
Intel: New 5th gen codenamed Broadwell CPU's expected to launch sometime in Q2 this year. It might be worth the wait as these will be slightly faster (10% at most) but the 5th gen price will replace the 4th gen.

AMD: Not doing nothing new. Same old architecture, 32nm is a joke compared to Intel's 12nm. They are surviving. Expect their stock to tank. Their server chipset fell through and now we should all be concerned because Intel is gaining a monopoly on the market and we will be forced to pay premium. Although I do appreciate the price of the 5820k.

That's it for now. A lot of information is missing, but I did hopefully enlighten you on the basics for video editing.

Hey well thats lot of information really. Thanks... However I am planning to get the machine for myself. Well I will be majorly using 3 or 4 programs. Adobe premiere, Photoshop, illustrator and after effecta. The other program I am thinking to use is Nuke.

Now comes the configuration that will be -
Intel i5 6500 skylake 3.2 ghz
Gskill ripjaws vddr4 16 GB (2400 MHz)
Ssd 256 no idea regarding brand
HDD WD elements 7200 rpm
No graphic card (goes outta budget)
Motherboard - MSI z97
Cabinet - no idea

Please suggest. If it's correct things I am planning or what else could I get/replace to make it more effective.

 

[GraySenshi]

If possable get 1 16gb stick for upgrading the more ram the faster the editing will be to me 32gb is recommended or more

 

[aditya_20]

Which brand you suggest. Does over clocking will help?

 

[GraySenshi]

I'm not positive but I think you don't overclock ram with skylake because the CPU controles the ram now not the motherboard if anyone knows more on this tell me if I am rong I know the 5930k/5960x is that way tho

Btw save for the 980ti it's so worth it in the long run I'm running sli and I'm very pleased with how it preformed

 

[GraySenshi]

O and faster ram will help all round more so for video editing

 

[AniAM]

Hold up, what programs are you using? Premiere and Adobe programs utilize CUDA cores better than open CL, meaning that Nvidia is a better choice than ATI for graphics cards. Sony Vegas on the other hand, runs SLOWER with GPU acceleration on with a Nvidia card, so you must get ATI. It is basically open CL exclusive.

GPU is not important in video rendering. It can help a bit, but video cards are more important for things like 3d modeling such as Maya and Cinema 4D.

Do not go the AMD route unless you are willing to give up speed. If you are on a tight, tight, budget, get the FX-8350 paired with a GPU that will compliment whatever programs you use (once again, please tell us)

If I could re-do my build again, I would no doubt get the 5820k. It is the first time EVER that we have seen a 6 core processor become affordable to the average user... For only 380 bucks you are getting an absolute powerhouse for video editing. The DDR4 ram and x99 motherboards is as close to future proofing as you could possibly get. Depending on what you need you could get one of the most efficient machines imaginable for around $1000 bucks.

Go the AMD route and you will receive significantly slower rendering times, but you will have a lot more money to spend on partying 😛

The 4790k is an option too. This is the CPU I have and I like it. I will never use an intel stock fan/heatsink again though, you have to buy an aftermarket cooler. I am happy with the performance I get. It takes me 2.1 minutes to render 1 minute of video, although I am relearning and none of the formats are the same as they were 2-3 years ago.

- Seems like someone needs to get his ass off the chair and find some good books or materials to study things around but hey, that's me. AMD for the people who try to get the works done with intellect. Slower? I'd like you to upload a video comparing both Intel and AMD Woking on a same task. A Mac can be winner but talking about a Windows PC with a Intel for granted, is but risky.

 

[GraySenshi]

I'm not hating on amd but it's comparable to a pentium or a i3 at best and you got to look at ips " instructions per clock" it's key for video editing a old exon w3550 tramples amd and it's only 20 or so for the CPU you could pick a full tower and beet out amd for 150 and have a full system with 4/8 cores 6gb+ ram

Save and get something like the 5930k or better exon would be a good way to go get one that supports multiple CPUs and go that rout

 

[Eelyahassan]

Never ever get 9590 amd... I moan the day i bought it... It freezes if put through some pressure... U'll have to under lock it to keep it running ... Water cooler don't make a difference despite amd saying that it should be used with a liquid cooler and I do use it for video editing (mostly 1920x1080). I'm seriously thinking of degrading to 8350 or 8320. I'd appreciate ur help to chose. And I've spent too much money in amd now so no point switching to Intel really Coz I'll have to change the motherboard too which costed me £120.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Never ever get 9590 amd... I moan the day i bought it... It freezes if put through some pressure... U'll have to under lock it to keep it running ... Water cooler don't make a difference despite amd saying that it should be used with a liquid cooler and I do use it for video editing (mostly 1920x1080). I'm seriously thinking of degrading to 8350 or 8320. I'd appreciate ur help to chose. And I've spent too much money in amd now so no point switching to Intel really Coz I'll have to change the motherboard too which costed me £120.

Usually the freezing with that CPU is caused by the motherboard.

 

[veteran63]

"GPU is not important in video rendering. It can help a bit, but video cards are more important for things like 3d modeling such as Maya and Cinema 4D."

I disagree that GPU is not important in video rendering. People can check following link out for an in-depth post on what the GPU provides in the video editing pipe line but Adobe has worked with NVidia to allow adobe's software (MPE) work with many aspects of the NVidia GPUs, in particular the CUDA cores.
http://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/cuda-mercury-playback-engine-and-adobe-premiere-pro/?segment=dva