Question Best CPU upgrade from 3500x for like 200-250

[Holmsey7]

Best CPU upgrade from 3500x for like 200-250 (uk) dont mind upgrading motherboard as well

 

[Karadjgne]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (£155.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B550M-A WIFI II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£86.84 @ Box Limited)
Total: £242.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-09-18 21:29 BST+0100

If you already have a good motherboard, then the 5700x and possibly some faster ram, depending on how fast your current ram is. Neither will require a better cooler unless you are running the stock 3500x Wraith.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

What board? I’ve got an asrock ab350 pro 4 board and installed a 5900x on it. It actually works great. Under 250, probably a 5700x, or a 5600 at minimum.

 

[MEMOFLEX]

Post your full system specs along with what you plan to use the computer for.

This will help in giving you a more informed answer

 

[geko95gek]

You can find a 5700X for that price!

 

[Holmsey7]

What board? I’ve got an asrock ab350 pro 4 board and installed a 5900x on it. It actually works great. Under 250, probably a 5700x, or a 5600 at minimum.

Have a msi b450 gaming plus

 

[Holmsey7]

Post your full system specs along with what you plan to use the computer for.

This will help in giving you a more informed answer

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/CpMjbK Im wanting to get a new mobo, case, psu and cpu probably, will be used for gaming and some CAD software

 

[Holmsey7]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (£155.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B550M-A WIFI II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£86.84 @ Box Limited)
Total: £242.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-09-18 21:29 BST+0100

If you already have a good motherboard, then the 5700x and possibly some faster ram, depending on how fast your current ram is. Neither will require a better cooler unless you are running the stock 3500x Wraith.

i HAVE B450 gaming plus, but want to upgrade and have some cl18 3600mhz 16gb ram

 

[Karadjgne]

i HAVE B450 gaming plus, but want to upgrade and have some cl18 3600mhz 16gb ram

Your ram is good enough, the mobo is good enough, the 5700x is the better choice. Same 65w class cpu but performance in games and most production apps is within a few % (single digits) of the more expensive 105w 5800x. In AutoCAD, you'd be better off using an Intel as AutoCAD relies mostly on single thread speed and performance, but to top the 5700x ability would require a larger platform change than your budget allows for.

 

[logainofhades]

I agree with going with the 5700x. The performance difference between B450 and B550/X570 is basically 0. Hardware Unboxed has had some videos with a 5800x3d in a B350 Tomahawk, and saw little to no performance difference, vs their more expensive x570 platform. You lose out on Gen 4 storage, but that's not really a big deal.

 

[MEMOFLEX]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/CpMjbK Im wanting to get a new mobo, case, psu and cpu probably, will be used for gaming and some CAD software

As others have already mentioned the 5700x is the best choice in my opinion. It falls within your budget of £250 and would be a decent upgrade for both gaming and productivity work, extending the life cycle of your current system.

 

[Holmsey7]

I agree with going with the 5700x. The performance difference between B450 and B550/X570 is basically 0. Hardware Unboxed has had some videos with a 5800x3d in a B350 Tomahawk, and saw little to no performance difference, vs their more expensive x570 platform. You lose out on Gen 4 storage, but that's not really a big deal.

Would it be worth waiting for the 7000 series to release as people will sell their existing processors or just by a new one now? Also, would the 12600kf be possibly worth it for 270, i don't mind getting a better motherboard if possible for like 180. As i can sell old components

 

[Holmsey7]

Would it be worth waiting for the 7000 series to release as people will sell their existing processors or just by a new one now? Also, would the 12600kf be possibly worth it for 270, i don't mind getting a better motherboard if possible for like 180. As i can sell old components , found a 12600k for 270 with the new mw2 with it

 

[MEMOFLEX]

Would it be worth waiting for the 7000 series to release as people will sell their existing processors or just by a new one now? Also, would the 12600kf be possibly worth it for 270, i don't mind getting a better motherboard if possible for like 180. As i can sell old components

A lot of the original recommendations were based on the £250 budget for upgrading the CPU. Based on these parameters then a 5700x is probably the best option.

With AM5 and 13th Gen intel around the corner then you may get a discount on a used 5700x but you are taking on the risk of potentially no warranty. Not worth the offset in price in my opinion.

With a 3060ti the difference in gaming from a 5700x to a 12600kf would be small although you will likely get a bigger boost in applications like CAD due the single thread boost. It would still not be enough for me to swap over though as a new motherboard and CPU would not justify the improvement.

The benefits would be that you could upgrade again to a 13th gen from the 12600kf but this just does not make financial sense to me.

5700x for me is still the best option even for a couple of years use. Can probably get about £60 -£70 back on the 3500x on ebay as well.

 

[Holmsey7]

A lot of the original recommendations were based on the £250 budget for upgrading the CPU. Based on these parameters then a 5700x is probably the best option.

With AM5 and 13th Gen intel around the corner then you may get a discount on a used 5700x but you are taking on the risk of potentially no warranty. Not worth the offset in price in my opinion.

With a 3060ti the difference in gaming from a 5700x to a 12600kf would be small although you will likely get a bigger boost in applications like CAD due the single thread boost. It would still not be enough for me to swap over though as a new motherboard and CPU would not justify the improvement.

The benefits would be that you could upgrade again to a 13th gen from the 12600kf but this just does not make financial sense to me.

5700x for me is still the best option even for a couple of years use. Can probably get about £60 -£70 back on the 3500x on ebay as well.

So you don't thin that new 5700x will decrease in price with new releases and its not worth getting a 5800x for 20 pound more

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I'd say the 5700x will be a good upgrade. I upgraded on my b350 board to a 5900x and compared to my old 3600 that's a nice jump. You are close enough to wait and see if prices drop anymore as people should be selling off some older stuff. We should only be another week or so out now.

 

[Holmsey7]

I'd say the 5700x will be a good upgrade. I upgraded on my b350 board to a 5900x and compared to my old 3600 that's a nice jump. You are close enough to wait and see if prices drop anymore as people should be selling off some older stuff. We should only be another week or so out now.

yeah was gonna get a 7000 series but would need new ram, and motherboard which i cba for

 

[MEMOFLEX]

So you don't thin that new 5700x will decrease in price with new releases and its not worth getting a 5800x for 20 pound more

Maybe. Maybe not. Already some good discounts on the AM4 chips so not sure they will go much lower

 

[Holmsey7]

Maybe. Maybe not. Already some good discounts on the AM4 chips so not sure they will go much lower

Yeah is America there are some insane bundles atm, a i911900k for 280 dollars with thew new mw2, insane, sadly shipping for me is like 80

 

[Holmsey7]

Maybe. Maybe not. Already some good discounts on the AM4 chips so not sure they will go much lower

I have just done some research and the CAD software I use recommend s high turbo boost speed and says its less on cores and to get max boost speed possible, so for 150-250 what would be best? Possibly the 5600? Sorry for the mess around

 

[MEMOFLEX]

I have just done some research and the CAD software I use recommend s high turbo boost speed and says its less on cores and to get max boost speed possible, so for 150-250 what would be best? Possibly the 5600? Sorry for the mess around

The 5700x will boost higher than the 5600 and you get 2 more cores.

 

[Holmsey7]

The 5700x will boost higher than the 5600 and you get 2 more cores.

Is that worth it for 100 pound more?

 

[MEMOFLEX]

Is that worth it for 100 pound more?

Whichever you go for will be an improvement over what you currently have. The 5700x will be a little faster than the 5600 in CAD but not by much due to the single thread nature of the software.

Some games may benefit from the extra cores but as no specific games have been mentioned and the seemed focus on CAD then the additional £100 may not be worth it today.

Other rendering software will take advantage of the 5700x down the line but it depends on how long you look to keep the system for.

I think for now based purely on CAD then the 5600 would be the better value for money upgrade.

 

[Holmsey7]

Whichever you go for will be an improvement over what you currently have. The 5700x will be a little faster than the 5600 in CAD but not by much due to the single thread nature of the software.

Some games may benefit from the extra cores but as no specific games have been mentioned and the seemed focus on CAD then the additional £100 may not be worth it today.

Other rendering software will take advantage of the 5700x down the line but it depends on how long you look to keep the system for.

I think for now based purely on CAD then the 5600 would be the better value for money upgrade.

I dont play hardly any games that are core demanding and the CAD will be used for school stuff as im new to it nut need to learn it, just trying to find the best deal for performance, thanks for your help

 

[Karadjgne]

Can't just go by core speeds. There's also Lcache which plays a role. Between the faster single core speeds and double the L2 cache the 5700x is pulling @ 13800 vs the 5600 @ 11100 in cinebench R23 single core. That's @ 20% difference in single thread performance. Which is going to affect AutoCad. But AutoCad by itself isn't the only program used, you'll also be using Arnold or other compilation software, rendering software etc which will benefit from the additional threads.